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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:57 pm

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I suppose you're right. I always thought of the Skydeck as a feature that only flagship lounges at large hub airports would have. Apparently Delta feels differently. Either way, this club is a big win for Austin customers. I've always enjoyed the Skydecks at the JFK and ATL clubs.


I never knew there was such a thing as a Skydeck. I looked up some pics and it looks like a great experience. Wish they could do that in IND but doubt is possible because of the terminal design. That would have to be a spotter's dream.
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 1:13 am

Indy wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
I suppose you're right. I always thought of the Skydeck as a feature that only flagship lounges at large hub airports would have. Apparently Delta feels differently. Either way, this club is a big win for Austin customers. I've always enjoyed the Skydecks at the JFK and ATL clubs.


I never knew there was such a thing as a Skydeck. I looked up some pics and it looks like a great experience. Wish they could do that in IND but doubt is possible because of the terminal design. That would have to be a spotter's dream.


Definitely a spotters dream. Nothing like sitting outdoors and relaxing with a nice glass of wine while watching the planes depart and arrive. Austin is very lucky to be receiving this feature in their upcoming SkyClub.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:14 am

ty97 wrote:
IF DL has some expansion plans for AUS, as I tend to think they do, it seems a bit early for them to announce them. The new gates won't come on-line until 2019, which is the earliest opportunity that DL will have to add gate space, which they will need if they intend to expand operations. Airlines don't generally announce new/expanded routes a year+ in advance.



Well said.
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:29 am

Would AUS-MAD be a viable route for OW/IB or would it draw traffic from AUS-LHR or AA's DFW-MAD?
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:47 pm

masonh2479 wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
Delta VP Erik Snell is at the meeting and just announced the sky club. Most likely that was the "big announcement", very disappointing.


Very disappointing indeed. Still interesting that DL would introduce a SkyClub with a sky deck at an out station. I'm still crossing my fingers that DL has bigger plans for AUS in the works.

Let's hope so, here is the press release. http://news.delta.com/delta-sky-club-expanding-austin-new-club-opening-2019


Do we know how the 9000 sq ft size of this club compares to the size of other outstations and/or single club focus cities like RDU?
 
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:54 pm

ty97 wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
TransWorldOne wrote:

Very disappointing indeed. Still interesting that DL would introduce a SkyClub with a sky deck at an out station. I'm still crossing my fingers that DL has bigger plans for AUS in the works.

Let's hope so, here is the press release. http://news.delta.com/delta-sky-club-expanding-austin-new-club-opening-2019


Do we know how the 9000 sq ft size of this club compares to the size of other outstations and/or single club focus cities like RDU?



DELTA SKY LOUNGE STATS (Approx)

BOS = 3,500 sq ft
Seats 85
IND = 4,800 sq ft
Seats ....
RDU = 5,600 sq ft
Seats 145
AUS = 9,000 Sq ft &
5,800 Sq ft Skydeck
14,800 sq ft Total
Seats 195
———————————————
MSP = 13,000 sq ft

SEA = 21,000 sq ft

ATL = 25,000 sq ft Concourse B
Seats 500
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 4:03 pm

reggiet wrote:
ty97 wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:


Do we know how the 9000 sq ft size of this club compares to the size of other outstations and/or single club focus cities like RDU?



DELTA SKY LOUNGE STATS (Approx)

BOS = 3,500 sq ft
Seats 85
IND = 4,800 sq ft
Seats ....
RDU = 5,600 sq ft
Seats 145
AUS = 9,000 Sq ft &
5,800 Sq ft Skydeck
14,800 sq ft Total
Seats 195
———————————————
MSP = 13,000 sq ft

SEA = 21,000 sq ft

ATL = 25,000 sq ft Concourse B
Seats 500

How do you know the square footage of the sky deck? I wonder why it’s square footage wasn’t included in the press release.
 
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:20 pm

masonh2479 wrote:
reggiet wrote:
ty97 wrote:

Do we know how the 9000 sq ft size of this club compares to the size of other outstations and/or single club focus cities like RDU?



DELTA SKY LOUNGE STATS (Approx)

BOS = 3,500 sq ft
Seats 85
IND = 4,800 sq ft
Seats ....
RDU = 5,600 sq ft
Seats 145
AUS = 9,000 Sq ft &
5,800 Sq ft Skydeck
14,800 sq ft Total
Seats 195
———————————————
MSP = 13,000 sq ft

SEA = 21,000 sq ft

ATL = 25,000 sq ft Concourse B
Seats 500

How do you know the square footage of the sky deck? I wonder why it’s square footage wasn’t included in the press release.


It’s on the contractors webpage
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Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:41 pm

reggiet wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
reggiet wrote:


DELTA SKY LOUNGE STATS (Approx)

BOS = 3,500 sq ft
Seats 85
IND = 4,800 sq ft
Seats ....
RDU = 5,600 sq ft
Seats 145
AUS = 9,000 Sq ft &
5,800 Sq ft Skydeck
14,800 sq ft Total
Seats 195
———————————————
MSP = 13,000 sq ft

SEA = 21,000 sq ft

ATL = 25,000 sq ft Concourse B
Seats 500

How do you know the square footage of the sky deck? I wonder why it’s square footage wasn’t included in the press release.


It’s on the contractors webpage

Can you link the webpage.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:36 am

masonh2479 wrote:
reggiet wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
How do you know the square footage of the sky deck? I wonder why it’s square footage wasn’t included in the press release.


It’s on the contractors webpage

Can you link the webpage.


Correction. It's on the ABIA webpage.

http://www.austintexas.gov/page/constru ... #expansion
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:47 am

F9 AUS-DTW is online.
Resort, and other ground transportation options are on level 1.

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Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:49 am

reggiet wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
reggiet wrote:

It’s on the contractors webpage

Can you link the webpage.


Correction. It's on the ABIA webpage.

http://www.austintexas.gov/page/constru ... #expansion


"The expansion project will increase the airport’s capacity to 15 million passengers annually. It is anticipated that it will be at least 2025 before that level of passenger traffic is reached."


What? It served just shy of 14 million last year, it could reach 15 million as soon as next year. And if DL starts building up operations, it could inch closer to 20 million in the coming years.

Talk about being conservative.......
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:57 am

reggiet wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
reggiet wrote:

It’s on the contractors webpage

Can you link the webpage.


Correction. It's on the ABIA webpage.

http://www.austintexas.gov/page/constru ... #expansion

I found a quick fact that said the extension will include a 5,770sqft patio but I don't know if that is the sky club patio or another patio. For all we know this could be a general use patio. After looking at the extension rendering one can see a patio at the far east end right above the two jet bridge gates. I think they are referring to that patio and not the sky club patio which will be near Delta’s current gates.

Here is a tidbit of info from awhile back; "With the $28 million in added money for the project, he said, six of the nine added gates would now be outfitted for both international travel (with secure passage to and from customs) and, with access adjustments to the rest of the concourse, for domestic flights. That east end of the terminal will also include, Harbinson said, a new members-only club for a “legacy carrier” at the airport at a construction cost of $5 million." -Shane Harbinson, Austin Aviation Department assistant director.

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/transportation/more-parking-more-gates-more-amenities-austin-airport-grows/ng4N0NIzRPnbsBk6OGlp3M/

They were awarded the money to outfit the 6 gates for international service.
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:58 am

ADrum23 wrote:
reggiet wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
Can you link the webpage.


Correction. It's on the ABIA webpage.

http://www.austintexas.gov/page/constru ... #expansion


"The expansion project will increase the airport’s capacity to 15 million passengers annually. It is anticipated that it will be at least 2025 before that level of passenger traffic is reached."


What? It served just shy of 14 million last year, it could reach 15 million as soon as next year. And if DL starts building up operations, it could inch closer to 20 million in the coming years.

Talk about being conservative.......

They really waited till the last minute to begin expansion. I wish they knew how to plan for the future so we wouldn't be continually near max capacity.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:08 am

masonh2479 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
reggiet wrote:

Correction. It's on the ABIA webpage.

http://www.austintexas.gov/page/constru ... #expansion


"The expansion project will increase the airport’s capacity to 15 million passengers annually. It is anticipated that it will be at least 2025 before that level of passenger traffic is reached."


What? It served just shy of 14 million last year, it could reach 15 million as soon as next year. And if DL starts building up operations, it could inch closer to 20 million in the coming years.

Talk about being conservative.......

They really waited till the last minute to begin expansion. I wish they knew how to plan for the future so we wouldn't be continually near max capacity.


They'll have to build a new satellite concourse for any future expansion. I wonder how that will work?
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:19 am

ADrum23 wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:



What? It served just shy of 14 million last year, it could reach 15 million as soon as next year. And if DL starts building up operations, it could inch closer to 20 million in the coming years.

Talk about being conservative.......

They really waited till the last minute to begin expansion. I wish they knew how to plan for the future so we wouldn't be continually near max capacity.


They'll have to build a new satellite concourse for any future expansion. I wonder how that will work?

I don’t know, it will be interesting to see where the airport is swinging towards when the 2040 master plan comes out.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:18 am

There is an announcement at ABIA tomorrow at 10, the airline will be nearly doubling upon their existing flights.
http://kxan.com/2018/02/08/austin-airport-airline-announcing-new-nonstop-flights-thursday/
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:24 am

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Aeromexico will double its number of nonstops by adding GDL :roll:

My money's on Frontier who's even listed in the article; can Allegiant even accommodate more flights out of the South Terminal?

Volaris looks to now be operating GDL through the rest of 2018 per their website, in the video attracted to the link they did say the airline would be domestic. I honestly don’t know for this, ViaAir said they would be adding flight to AUS this year and want to be our hometown airline so maybe them.

Allegian definetly has more room to grow at the south terminal, it isn’t even open every day of the week yet.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:25 am

Aeromexico will double its number of nonstops by adding GDL :roll:

My money's on Frontier who's even listed in the article; can Allegiant even accommodate more flights out of the South Terminal?
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:56 am

Looks like Frontier route announcement

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Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:00 pm

It's nice to see the growth in Austin, but these ULCC fares are going to make it more difficult for me to justify my business travel on AA when flying to these markets. If F9 was the airline it started as, there would be a case to be made for me to jump ship at every opportunity. Hopefully, taking into consideration the ancillary fees for checked baggage, seats with reasonable legroom, and carry-on bag fees will offset the cost difference in a way that I can quantify.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:00 pm

These routes are either currently well served (SEA, PDX, DTW) or just odd PVD, JAX, OMA, MKE?
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:18 pm

malev2012 wrote:
These routes are either currently well served (SEA, PDX, DTW) or just odd PVD, JAX, OMA, MKE?

The well served routes are served by an airline with higher fares that caters to the business traveler (Delta) and an airline that isn’t low cost but I really have no idea what they are trying to be (Alaska). Frontier has a fair chance to do well in these markets by taking from the pax that just want to get from point a to point b.

Referring to the odd routes, I don’t have a clue about JAX or OMA but PVD might to ok by taking pax from the New England area.

I do feel that MKE will do well because the vast majority of people in Wisconsin fly out of MKE, the vast majority of people in Wisconsin are also low cost travelers. I have lived in Wisconsin for 11 years now and can confirm. The fares are cheaper or of MKE so people will drive from across the state to fly out of there. Low cost travelers and a low cost airline fits well.

The winters in Wisconsin are brutal and people tend to want to fly to warm places during the winter, this is why you see so many seasonal charters to Mexico during the winter.

One could assume the summers in Austin are brutal and people would be willing to flock to a cooler Wisconsin, Milwaukee is a nice city and is underrated by most. It’s airport acts like a third Chicago airport, taking pax from North Illinois.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:09 pm

All these new route announcements will probably not stick. However, Frontier is willing to try new and "odd" route pairings to see if there is a demand. AUS has a lot going for it; and lower F9 fares, even with the seat and bag charges included, will likely draw pax to the city/area.

Lots of new planes arriving at Frontier in 2019, so I would not be surprised to see a number of these new routes work out.

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Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:14 pm

Frontier14 wrote:
All these new route announcements will probably not stick. However, Frontier is willing to try new and "odd" route pairings to see if there is a demand. AUS has a lot going for it; and lower F9 fares, even with the seat and bag charges included, will likely draw pax to the city/area.

Lots of new planes arriving at Frontier in 2019, so I would not be surprised to see a number of these new routes work out.

Frontier 14


This is why I generally don't get excited about new Frontier routes. They often come and go rather quickly.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:15 pm

TransWorldOne wrote:
Frontier14 wrote:
All these new route announcements will probably not stick. However, Frontier is willing to try new and "odd" route pairings to see if there is a demand. AUS has a lot going for it; and lower F9 fares, even with the seat and bag charges included, will likely draw pax to the city/area.

Lots of new planes arriving at Frontier in 2019, so I would not be surprised to see a number of these new routes work out.

Frontier 14


This is why I generally don't get excited about new Frontier routes. They often come and go rather quickly.

Agreed, still adding 14 destinations at once is impressive for AUS, even if they are all seasonal.
http://www.austintexas.gov/news/frontier-airlines-announces-14-new-destinations
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:06 pm

Will AS ever add AUS-LAX nonstop service? I thought that VX could add AUS-LAX nonstop service if it hadn't merged with AS, but AS still has an opportunity to add AUS-LAX nonstop service since LAX is one of the top destinations from AUS and since LAX is the only AS hub in the contiguous U.S. that AS doesn't currently serve nonstop from AUS. AS also already serves SEA, PDX, SAN, SFO (through VX), and SJC nonstop from AUS.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:11 pm

I still think Delta has more in store for AUS. I'd hardly expect for the direct to Amsterdam to automatically become year around before the test service occurs during SXSW, plus the east terminal isn't even complete yet so let's have some patience. I suspect Delta is one by one setting up the pieces for a buildup.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:25 pm

malev2012 wrote:
These routes are either currently well served (SEA, PDX, DTW) or just odd PVD, JAX, OMA, MKE?


Some odd ones certainly but if they only run 2 days a week like a lot routes do, perhaps they can work?
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:48 pm

JDawgboy512 wrote:
I still think Delta has more in store for AUS. I'd hardly expect for the direct to Amsterdam to automatically become year around before the test service occurs during SXSW, plus the east terminal isn't even complete yet so let's have some patience. I suspect Delta is one by one setting up the pieces for a buildup.


Yes. I believe DL will announce AUS-AMS year round later this year and some p2p flights. Right now, DL does not fly any p2p from AUS currently, CVG was the last of the DL hubs/focus cities that AUS did not have a flight to. Now that they've started flights to all the hubs/focus cities, I expect DL will begin the buildup of AUS into a focus city in the style of CVG/RDU (and potentially a hub like SLC down the road).
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:10 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
JDawgboy512 wrote:
I still think Delta has more in store for AUS. I'd hardly expect for the direct to Amsterdam to automatically become year around before the test service occurs during SXSW, plus the east terminal isn't even complete yet so let's have some patience. I suspect Delta is one by one setting up the pieces for a buildup.


Yes. I believe DL will announce AUS-AMS year round later this year and some p2p flights. Right now, DL does not fly any p2p from AUS currently, CVG was the last of the DL hubs/focus cities that AUS did not have a flight to. Now that they've started flights to all the hubs/focus cities, I expect DL will begin the buildup of AUS into a focus city in the style of CVG/RDU (and potentially a hub like SLC down the road).

I wonder how much room Delta has left to expand domestically with their current gates, I know our international gates have the capacity for the AMS flight. The extension is due July 2019, hopefully it can be sped up so we won't be as badly over capacity. This extension is supposed to bring AUS up to handling 15million pax but that will very likely happen this year. The airport needs to get their head out of their ass and plan for the future so we have breathing room.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:19 pm

masonh2479 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
JDawgboy512 wrote:
I still think Delta has more in store for AUS. I'd hardly expect for the direct to Amsterdam to automatically become year around before the test service occurs during SXSW, plus the east terminal isn't even complete yet so let's have some patience. I suspect Delta is one by one setting up the pieces for a buildup.


Yes. I believe DL will announce AUS-AMS year round later this year and some p2p flights. Right now, DL does not fly any p2p from AUS currently, CVG was the last of the DL hubs/focus cities that AUS did not have a flight to. Now that they've started flights to all the hubs/focus cities, I expect DL will begin the buildup of AUS into a focus city in the style of CVG/RDU (and potentially a hub like SLC down the road).

I wonder how much room Delta has left to expand domestically with their current gates, I know our international gates have the capacity for the AMS flight. The extension is due July 2019, hopefully it can be sped up so we won't be as badly over capacity. This extension is supposed to bring AUS up to handling 15million pax but that will very likely happen this year. The airport needs to get their head out of their ass and plan for the future so we have breathing room.


If you could educate me, where are the current international gates and weren't they upgraded recently? Or was the previously announced upgraded international gates referring to the ones in the extension? I've never been to AUS before, but I'll be heading there Memorial Day weekend, so I'm looking forward to seeing the construction. It will be interesting to compare the expansion at AUS to the one at BNA, my home airport. Like AUS, BNA is going through a lot of growing pains and will be expanding to bring, amongst other things, additional gates and an improved international arrivals building.

It would appear that the current terminal will be built out once the extension is done. They'll need to start planning a new island concourse somewhere south of the existing one. Depending on what DL's ultimate plans for AUS are, maybe they could pay for some of it to help expedite the process.
 
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Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:35 pm

ADrum23 wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:

Yes. I believe DL will announce AUS-AMS year round later this year and some p2p flights. Right now, DL does not fly any p2p from AUS currently, CVG was the last of the DL hubs/focus cities that AUS did not have a flight to. Now that they've started flights to all the hubs/focus cities, I expect DL will begin the buildup of AUS into a focus city in the style of CVG/RDU (and potentially a hub like SLC down the road).

I wonder how much room Delta has left to expand domestically with their current gates, I know our international gates have the capacity for the AMS flight. The extension is due July 2019, hopefully it can be sped up so we won't be as badly over capacity. This extension is supposed to bring AUS up to handling 15million pax but that will very likely happen this year. The airport needs to get their head out of their ass and plan for the future so we have breathing room.


If you could educate me, where are the current international gates and weren't they upgraded recently? Or was the previously announced upgraded international gates referring to the ones in the extension? I've never been to AUS before, but I'll be heading there Memorial Day weekend, so I'm looking forward to seeing the construction. It will be interesting to compare the expansion at AUS to the one at BNA, my home airport. Like AUS, BNA is going through a lot of growing pains and will be expanding to bring, amongst other things, additional gates and an improved international arrivals building.

It would appear that the current terminal will be built out once the extension is done. They'll need to start planning a new island concourse somewhere south of the existing one. Depending on what DL's ultimate plans for AUS are, maybe they could pay for some of it to help expedite the process.

The current international gates are at the far east end of the existing terminal, right now two gates are international. They were not upgraded recently, when the extension is done 6 gates will be able to handle international flights, with two of said gates having two jet bridges to accompany larger aircraft.

In the 2003 and 2008 master plan the original terminal was set to be able to have 52 gates, the original terminal still has room to expand but an island concourse near the South Terminal could be next in store.
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:34 am

Had a great opportunity to tour the Terminal Expansion project today, but I managed to take only a few shots since there was so much else that I was looking at...

From the sterile hallway crossing the concourse looking west...

Image

The future DL Sky Club...

Image

As a brief update, there is a ton of MEP work going on in these shots, and getting the exterior glass and paneling is moving right along too. The building should be closed up by next month followed by getting AC in place in time for the interior work this summer.

The project team has great people on it, and it was a pleasure to have had the tour. If there was a question you had that might have come up today, feel free to ask and I'll relay what I can remember, but otherwise continue to rely on official updates from the Airport public info staff...

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:40 am

Mikey711MN wrote:
Had a great opportunity to tour the Terminal Expansion project today, but I managed to take only a few shots since there was so much else that I was looking at...

From the sterile hallway crossing the concourse looking west...

Image

The future DL Sky Club...

Image

As a brief update, there is a ton of MEP work going on in these shots, and getting the exterior glass and paneling is moving right along too. The building should be closed up by next month followed by getting AC in place in time for the interior work this summer.

The project team has great people on it, and it was a pleasure to have had the tour. If there was a question you had that might have come up today, feel free to ask and I'll relay what I can remember, but otherwise continue to rely on official updates from the Airport public info staff...

-Mike


Who will the new gates go to? Will DL get most of them?
 
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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:04 am

ADrum23 wrote:
Who will the new gates go to? Will DL get most of them?

I don't know if those agreements are in place yet.

With the club coming online and a steady increase in flights and destinations, I would speculate that DL is lined up to add some net number of gates.

But I would also guess that the 2-4 international gates on the end will be CUTE, rotating to meet the needs for BA, Condor, Norwegian, etc. on an as-needed basis throughout the day similar to how Gates 2, 3, 25, etc. work today.

On that note, I could also envision an opportunity for an airline like AA to "consolidate" their ops a bit, which might involve some horsetrading with B6 at Gate 19, I think.

Just my two cents...but who's going where didn't come up during the tour.

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:24 am

Mikey711MN wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
Who will the new gates go to? Will DL get most of them?

I don't know if those agreements are in place yet.

With the club coming online and a steady increase in flights and destinations, I would speculate that DL is lined up to add some net number of gates.

But I would also guess that the 2-4 international gates on the end will be CUTE, rotating to meet the needs for BA, Condor, Norwegian, etc. on an as-needed basis throughout the day similar to how Gates 2, 3, 25, etc. work today.

On that note, I could also envision an opportunity for an airline like AA to "consolidate" their ops a bit, which might involve some horsetrading with B6 at Gate 19, I think.

Just my two cents...but who's going where didn't come up during the tour.

-Mike


Did they at least say an estimated completion date?
 
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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:27 am

ADrum23 wrote:
Mikey711MN wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
Who will the new gates go to? Will DL get most of them?

I don't know if those agreements are in place yet.

With the club coming online and a steady increase in flights and destinations, I would speculate that DL is lined up to add some net number of gates.

But I would also guess that the 2-4 international gates on the end will be CUTE, rotating to meet the needs for BA, Condor, Norwegian, etc. on an as-needed basis throughout the day similar to how Gates 2, 3, 25, etc. work today.

On that note, I could also envision an opportunity for an airline like AA to "consolidate" their ops a bit, which might involve some horsetrading with B6 at Gate 19, I think.

Just my two cents...but who's going where didn't come up during the tour.

-Mike


Did they at least say an estimated completion date?

On the builders website it says July 2019, hopefully it is earlier.
https://www.henselphelps.com/project/austin-bergstrom-international-airport-terminalapron-expansion-improvements/
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:40 am

masonh2479 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
Mikey711MN wrote:
I don't know if those agreements are in place yet.

With the club coming online and a steady increase in flights and destinations, I would speculate that DL is lined up to add some net number of gates.

But I would also guess that the 2-4 international gates on the end will be CUTE, rotating to meet the needs for BA, Condor, Norwegian, etc. on an as-needed basis throughout the day similar to how Gates 2, 3, 25, etc. work today.

On that note, I could also envision an opportunity for an airline like AA to "consolidate" their ops a bit, which might involve some horsetrading with B6 at Gate 19, I think.

Just my two cents...but who's going where didn't come up during the tour.

-Mike


Did they at least say an estimated completion date?

On the builders website it says July 2019, hopefully it is earlier.
https://www.henselphelps.com/project/austin-bergstrom-international-airport-terminalapron-expansion-improvements/


Interesting. Hensel Phelps will be the firm constructing the new Concourse D at BNA, which should begin construction here pretty soon.

Are they really putting A380-compatible gates in the new addition? Does AUS anticipate that it could get A380 service sometime in the near future?
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:48 am

From what we have heard the new international gates will be A380 compatible.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:50 am

ADrum23 wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:

Did they at least say an estimated completion date?

On the builders website it says July 2019, hopefully it is earlier.
https://www.henselphelps.com/project/austin-bergstrom-international-airport-terminalapron-expansion-improvements/


Interesting. Hensel Phelps will be the firm constructing the new Concourse D at BNA, which should begin construction here pretty soon.

Are they really putting A380-compatible gates in the new addition? Does AUS anticipate that it could get A380 service sometime in the near future?

I guess they are finally preparing for the future, not in the near future but in the far future ABIA might see an A380. Apparently two of the gates will be A380 compatible. (the two that will come with two jet bridges)
 
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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:37 pm

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Apparently two of the gates will be A380 compatible. (the two that will come with two jet bridges)

That reminds me of one of the details that is actually a little more complicated than one might think: gate numbering.

To my understanding, these two gates on the east end will become new Gates 1 & 2, then the gates will be numbered with the odd numbers on one side (north?) and even numbers on the other (south?) until the portion of the existing terminal where there are gates only on the south side, i.e. near Gate 5 of the current layout.

Anyway, this effort involves signage, work order systems, maintenance plan updating, communications with the airlines/public, etc. so a lot of moving parts.

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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:49 pm

Mikey711MN wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
Apparently two of the gates will be A380 compatible. (the two that will come with two jet bridges)

That reminds me of one of the details that is actually a little more complicated than one might think: gate numbering.

To my understanding, these two gates on the east end will become new Gates 1 & 2, then the gates will be numbered with the odd numbers on one side (north?) and even numbers on the other (south?) until the portion of the existing terminal where there are gates only on the south side, i.e. near Gate 5 of the current layout.

Anyway, this effort involves signage, work order systems, maintenance plan updating, communications with the airlines/public, etc. so a lot of moving parts.

-Mike

I would think the numbers on the old gate numbers would be shuffled around to make sense and new numbers would be added so from East to West it goes from 1-33. Then doing the sides of the east extension odd and even just like it is currently in the west extension.
 
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Re: Austin Texas Thread - 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:07 pm

ViaAir announced Little Rock (April 29th) and Tulsa(May 6th), the OKC service supposed to start January 18th is starting April 22nd, all service will be 6x weekly and year round.
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:10 pm

masonh2479 wrote:
ADrum23 wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:


Interesting. Hensel Phelps will be the firm constructing the new Concourse D at BNA, which should begin construction here pretty soon.

Are they really putting A380-compatible gates in the new addition? Does AUS anticipate that it could get A380 service sometime in the near future?

I guess they are finally preparing for the future, not in the near future but in the far future ABIA might see an A380. Apparently two of the gates will be A380 compatible. (the two that will come with two jet bridges)


Two A380 compatible gates? That’s surprising.

I just don’t see any carrier using the A380 into AUS anytime soon, expect for diversions from either IAH or DFW.

The only scernario I see where A380s fly into AUS regularly is if DL builds a hub and as a result, their foreign partner carriers such as Air France, KLM and Korean Air start flights into the airport and use it. But that is a stretch, since we don’t know for sure what DL’s plans are for the airport.
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:58 pm

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ViaAir announced Little Rock (April 29th) and Tulsa(May 6th), the OKC service supposed to start January 18th is starting April 22nd, all service will be 6x weekly and year round.


I had booked OKC route that was later canceled, not sure how they will pull of 6x weekly service if they couldn't get OKC off ground for months. Let's just say I am skeptical of all of these starting by May 6th.
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:10 pm

So is Frontier moving to the South Terminal or not? If they do, trying to figure out how they can expand the South Terminal, maybe with a L shaped addition to the west.
 
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:14 pm

malev2012 wrote:
masonh2479 wrote:
ViaAir announced Little Rock (April 29th) and Tulsa(May 6th), the OKC service supposed to start January 18th is starting April 22nd, all service will be 6x weekly and year round.


I had booked OKC route that was later canceled, not sure how they will pull of 6x weekly service if they couldn't get OKC off ground for months. Let's just say I am skeptical of all of these starting by May 6th.

I am skeptical as well, but the Tucson service started on the planned date so who knows.
william wrote:
So is Frontier moving to the South Terminal or not? If they do, trying to figure out how they can expand the South Terminal, maybe with a L shaped addition to the west.

No word on that, I think for now they are using the shared use gates at the main terminal.

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