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Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:52 am

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Msn 1836, F-WWCP, first A330-941 for TAP

...thought I share this here although a little bit late :white:

taken an Sep. 25., 2017 in TLS.
 
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Re: Official A330 Production/Flight Testing

Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:38 am

redcap1962 wrote:
first A330-941 for TAP


EDIT: 2nd A330-941 for TAP - sry! Will bs CS-TUB.
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:28 pm

¿Dates of delivery in TAP A330 NEO?
 
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:31 pm

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¿Dates of delivery in TAP A330 NEO?


Mid-2018.
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Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:00 pm

With the new year it is time for a new thread.

Please continue your discussion and to post your updates here.

I have moved some posts accordingly.

Link to previous thread:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1345571
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo production and delivery thread - 2018

Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:20 pm

Wish they painted the winglets on their CEOs like that too! Can't wait to see it in full color.
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Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:17 pm

Is it known which routes TAP will introduce the NEO in the beginning?
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Re: Official A330 Production/Flight Testing

Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:36 pm

redcap1962 wrote:
Msn 1836, F-WWCP, first A330-941 for TAP

...thought I share this here although a little bit late :white:

taken an Sep. 25., 2017 in TLS.

What a great picture to start out the thread, thanks!
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:43 pm

Great picture indeed! I wonder if they have corrected the rudder paint to the new TAP design (reading Air Portugal). Looking forward to seeing this in full paint!
 
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Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:29 pm

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Is it known which routes TAP will introduce the NEO in the beginning?


Hard to say really, but it is rumored they are waiting for it to lauch SFO during 2018 (3Q?).
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:48 pm

I learned this week that Airbus is looking to have the 251t A339 certified by mid-2019 (approx one year after EIS).
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:29 am

Are there any delivery slots available in 2019??

Turkish President will visit France today, and it is very likely that A350 will be ordered.
Maybe wishfull thinking of me, we might see also some A330neo orders :goodvibes:
 
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:41 am

Tkfan wrote:
Are there any delivery slots available in 2019??

Turkish President will visit France today, and it is very likely that A350 will be ordered.
Maybe wishful thinking of me, we might see also some A330neo orders :goodvibes:



Sorry for taking off-topic, but is there substance to that? It seems plausible that an order would be made...
 
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:49 am

MrHMSH wrote:
Tkfan wrote:
Are there any delivery slots available in 2019??

Turkish President will visit France today, and it is very likely that A350 will be ordered.
Maybe wishful thinking of me, we might see also some A330neo orders :goodvibes:



Sorry for taking off-topic, but is there substance to that? It seems plausible that an order would be made...


A quick search gave this result, the usual Suspect, kokpit.aero. For 25 A350-900.
http://www.kokpit.aero/thy-a350-imza-atiyor

A350 is very likely. As it was discussed recently.


A330neo is just wishfull thinking of me.
 
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:48 pm

Does anyone have the latest info on the flight test program??

All I am getting at the moment is deafening silence.
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:51 pm

lowbank wrote:
Does anyone have the latest info on the flight test program??

All I am getting at the moment is deafening silence.


I made a summary in the previous thread. At the end of 2017:

> F-WTTN completed some 40 sorties since first flight in October, totaling 113 flight hours
> F-WTTE completed some 10 sorties since first flight in December, totaling 38 flight hours

Good for a total of 150 flight hours, or roughly 14% of the entire campaign.

Both aircraft were flying today, so flight activities continue in 2018.
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:19 pm

Thank you Karel.
Heard nothing about it at work.
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Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:03 pm

lowbank wrote:
Thank you Karel.
Heard nothing about it at work.


Testing continues with again multiple flights today.

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Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:32 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
lowbank wrote:
Thank you Karel.
Heard nothing about it at work.


Testing continues with again multiple flights today.

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Are the HUDs standard equipment on all A330neos or are they an option?
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Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:45 pm

They are an option.
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:53 am

Tkfan wrote:
Are there any delivery slots available in 2019??

Turkish President will visit France today, and it is very likely that A350 will be ordered.
Maybe wishfull thinking of me, we might see also some A330neo orders :goodvibes:


Just read an article in a Turkish Aviation Site about Turkish Airlines being interested for up to 15 A339 previously planned for Air Berlin.

Unfortunately no source is given, though might be only a rumor.
Anyone has more insight? First one should be out of assembly line? And deal might be through ALC Leasing.

http://m.airporthaber.com/havacilik-hab ... lacak.html


Just looked up, MSN 1844 and 1861 were eventually planned for Air Berlin?
 
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:33 pm

redcap1962 wrote:
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Msn 1836, F-WWCP, first A330-941 for TAP

...thought I share this here although a little bit late :white:

taken an Sep. 25., 2017 in TLS.


Unless I’m mistaken, the winglet on that 339 looks like the old 332/333 winglet, not the 350 winglets that I thought were being adopted by the 338/339.
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 12:36 pm

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Just looked up, MSN 1844 and 1861 were eventually planned for Air Berlin?


Correct, although rumor has it RwandAir has agreed to take both production slots.
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Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:00 pm

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Unless I’m mistaken, the winglet on that 339 looks like the old 332/333 winglet, not the 350 winglets that I thought were being adopted by the 338/339.

They're a little smaller but shaped very similarly.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:32 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Tkfan wrote:
Just looked up, MSN 1844 and 1861 were eventually planned for Air Berlin?


Correct, although rumor has it RwandAir has agreed to take both production slots.


Pity...

When are the next free slots?
Any chance if this rumor is true, that TK can receive A339 in 2018??

There are no WB deliveries left, unless the LOIs for B789 and A359 turn into firm orders.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:06 pm

dampfnudel wrote:

Unless I’m mistaken, the winglet on that 339 looks like the old 332/333 winglet, not the 350 winglets that I thought were being adopted by the 338/339.


You are mistaken ;) That angle of the photo make it look similar. But it is more like the A350 winglet seen from other angles
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:51 pm

A nice head-to-head shot with the A330neo today, showing off the size of the engines:

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Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:08 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
A nice head-to-head shot with the A330neo today, showing off the size of the engines...


I always thought the A330 looked a bit silly due to the "small" engines - the Trent 1700 is a significant step-up in aesthetics.
 
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:31 am

Those wings look loong!
 
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Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:33 am

A330NEO test plane F-WTTE experienced some kind of undercarriage issue(apparently the right main gear did not extend) and made a low pass before landing safely back at TLS.
https://twitter.com/JacdecNew/status/957219347092660229
 
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Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:11 am

Stitch wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
A nice head-to-head shot with the A330neo today, showing off the size of the engines...


I always thought the A330 looked a bit silly due to the "small" engines - the Trent 1700 is a significant step-up in aesthetics.


Trent 7000.
 
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:16 am

Any chance of TAP using it on LIS > LHR or VIE which they use A330 currently ? Training flights ?
 
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Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:24 pm

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Any chance of TAP using it on LIS > LHR or VIE which they use A330 currently ? Training flights ?

Not sure the extent current A330 operators will need crew training flights, considering the only real difference between the A333 and A339 are the engines and some improved instrumentation.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:23 pm

Is there any chance of a A330-1000? The fuselage looks stubby by now , It could probably happen in 10 years. There is of course A350 and they are not going to compete with themselves but in time there may be a differentiation.
 
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:34 pm

BWIAirport wrote:
theobcman wrote:
Any chance of TAP using it on LIS > LHR or VIE which they use A330 currently ? Training flights ?

Not sure the extent current A330 operators will need crew training flights, considering the only real difference between the A333 and A339 are the engines and some improved instrumentation.

EASA certification has the A330/350 pilot rating combined as a single rating so I doubt going from A330ceo to neo involves any major training issues. Maybe a short differences course. Actual pilots please chip in.
 
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:38 pm

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Is there any chance of a A330-1000? The fuselage looks stubby by now , It could probably happen in 10 years. There is of course A350 and they are not going to compete with themselves but in time there may be a differentiation.


I'd say zero chance.
 
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:54 pm

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Is there any chance of a A330-1000?


keesje has been advocating it for months, at least, but I do not expect it to happen as it would encroach on the A35-900 (especially the Regional model) on missions likely out to the eight-hour mark.
 
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Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:55 am

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Those wings look loong!


They don't just look long, they ARE long!
 
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Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:01 pm

The A330-800 (MSN 1888) has entered the paint shop.

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Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:13 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
The A330-800 (MSN 1888) has entered the paint shop.


If it comes out all white with a "Your Name Could Be Here" on the fuselage would that mean Hawaiian Airlines cancelled? :rotfl:

Seriously, I know it will be in Airbus House Colors - looking forward to seeing it once done.
 
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Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:20 pm

How do Hawiian feel about being the only A338 customer?
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:03 am

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How do Hawiian feel about being the only A338 customer?


It runs the spectrum from "already privately cancelled" to "will be adding to their order". We'll know for sure they are taking them when this one is re-painted in HA colors or the next tranche of frames enter the FAL.
 
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 4:09 am

Vladex wrote:
Is there any chance of a A330-1000? The fuselage looks stubby by now , It could probably happen in 10 years. There is of course A350 and they are not going to compete with themselves but in time there may be a differentiation.

Airbus wanted to save costs and time to market - so the Neo is a straight re-engining project plus some fine tuning of the aerodynamics. The A330-900 would have been better if they had adopted the same fuselage as the A340-500. But I suspect that weight reduction will be even more critical.

As for a A330-1000, I highly doubt it - it would be easier to further develop the A350-900 into something with better economics than a potential A330-1000.
 
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:07 am

flee wrote:
Vladex wrote:
Is there any chance of a A330-1000? The fuselage looks stubby by now , It could probably happen in 10 years. There is of course A350 and they are not going to compete with themselves but in time there may be a differentiation.

Airbus wanted to save costs and time to market - so the Neo is a straight re-engining project plus some fine tuning of the aerodynamics. The A330-900 would have been better if they had adopted the same fuselage as the A340-500. But I suspect that weight reduction will be even more critical.

As for a A330-1000, I highly doubt it - it would be easier to further develop the A350-900 into something with better economics than a potential A330-1000.


The A340-500 fuselage would have been heavy. Weight reduction has been done on the A330neo, partly by eliminating legacy structures for the A340 version.
 
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:42 am

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Technically doable, specially after the radical MOTW bumps, But still unlikely.

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Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:45 am

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Technically doable, specially after the radical MOTW bumps, But still unlikely.

https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/838818272849993731

That actually looks pretty sweet. But can a fly survive at that altitude?

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Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:10 am

as I remember the A358 was going to perform better then the A333. I think in mid 2020s we will see a A358 with smaller wing replacing A339.
 
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 10:30 am

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as I remember the A358 was going to perform better then the A333. I think in mid 2020s we will see a A358 with smaller wing replacing A339.


If so I suspect the wingspan to remain the same.
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Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:34 pm

A question concerning that first 330neo for Tap.

Didn't they lately change their name from TAP Portugal to TAP Air Portugal again.

They even introduced a slightly revised livery:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/TAP-Port ... X1o3LvI%3D

compared to:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/TAP-Port ... X1o3LvI%3D

it now says Air Portugal on the tail and not TAP Portugal, other than that only the registration is now placed on a different spot and the flytap.com titles are now coloured.

But why does the tail of the new 330neo say TAP Portugal again. Does anybody have an answer on this?
 
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:47 pm

NG263 wrote:
A question concerning that first 330neo for Tap.

Didn't they lately change their name from TAP Portugal to TAP Air Portugal again.

They even introduced a slightly revised livery:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/TAP-Port ... X1o3LvI%3D

compared to:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/TAP-Port ... X1o3LvI%3D

it now says Air Portugal on the tail and not TAP Portugal, other than that only the registration is now placed on a different spot and the flytap.com titles are now coloured.

But why does the tail of the new 330neo say TAP Portugal again. Does anybody have an answer on this?

The tail was probably painted before Airbus/the supplier (not sure who paints the tail when it is painted before everything else) was notified of the change and given the updated painting plans.

It will properly be corrected when the rest of the plane is painted.

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