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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:46 pm

PatrickZ80 wrote:
vinniewinnie wrote:
It’s not gonna happen: 3,5 hours travel time with the added inconvenience of having to push your luggage to/from the station in Amsterdam and wait for a train in less comfortable circumstances than in an airport is just not convenient compared compared to having a straight-through journey.


You do realise that, since both Amsterdam and Paris Charles de Gaulle have a train station at the airport, the inconvenience is a lot less. The train goes straight from airport to airport, so it is a straight through journey even if one part is by plane and the other part is by train. You don't have to go from the airport to the city to catch the train, the train stops at the airport.

Having to push your luggage? Yes, but you'd have to check it in and collect it anyway so what does it matter? It could be that you start your trip in Amsterdam and you fly from Charles de Gaulle. What does it matter if you take your luggage to the counter in Amsterdam or in Paris? Alternatively, it could be that your final destination is Paris but you land at Amsterdam. What does it matter if you collect your luggage from the belt in Amsterdam or in Paris?


That is nonsense. I mean people usually start their trip from somewhere else than the airport, not at the airport.

Second of all u have to factor in journey time & waiting time. Journey time is higher for rail, and waiting time can be quite a bit higher, in less than ideal circumstances. Between lugging your luggage at your departure or arrival destination, and lugging your luggage at an intermediary point end potentially at your end & beginning destination, there is a huge difference. I don’t know about AMS anymore, but CDG train-air transfers are not very convenient.

Finally there is perception. People have a preference for flying.

In conclusion, unless you make air-air connections very inconvenient (ie long connection times), air-air connections will not interest a lot of people. That is why SN is running 2-3 flights a day between CDG and BRU. As for AF, they are not after the Belgium market as much as KLM does. That is why KLM is running a couple of flights between BRU and AMS!
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:12 pm

vinniewinnie wrote:
people usually start their trip from somewhere else than the airport, not at the airport.

So? What's the difference in going to the airport to catch a plane or a train, besides being able to walk right to the platform in stead of standing in line at (possibly check-in/bag drop and) security? Additionally the train gives you the flexibilty of getting on/off at Amsterdam Central, Rotterdam, and Antwerp. Depending where you live this can be quite a bit quicker/easier than getting to the airport.

And Schiphol-Paris Nord is only 3:01h, Rotterdam-Paris Nord 2:37h and Antwerp-Paris Nord 2:02h.

For many, if not most, travellers on the Amsterdam-Paris corridor the train is the go to transport mode.
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:25 am

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That is why SN is running 2-3 flights a day between CDG and BRU. As for AF, they are not after the Belgium market as much as KLM does. That is why KLM is running a couple of flights between BRU and AMS!

SN flies between CDG and BRU because VFR traffic from Paris to Africa isn't about to carry the mountain of luggage they take with them in a train or in a minivan on the way to the airport. While anyone can buy tickets, the schedule is built for connections to/from Africa.Further, there are no (high-speed) trains from Paris to BRU.

AF has a check-in counter in Brussels' high-speed train station where passengers can check in their luggage to their final destination and receive boarding passes for their entire journey. A lounge is available for premium cabin passengers and elite Flying Blue members. All passengers with an air+rail ticket get to travel in first class on the train. If they're less committed than KLM, the market has not noticed. Air France carries more passengers by train to CDG than KLM does by air to AMS.
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:43 am

PatrickZ80 wrote:
andrej wrote:
RYR announced new route from BTS to EIN. Initially - from June - it will be 2x weekly and from Octover 3x weekly.


That's not the only new route they announced from Eindhoven.

https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... -eindhoven

Flights to Bratislava will start in june, Athens in september, Agadir and Riga in october. On the Eindhoven - Athens route they face competition from Transavia, the other three destinations are new from Eindhoven.


Thanks! I never said that this was only flight. But local media only reported this flight. And at the time of posting, I could not find anything on other reliable sources (sans Luchtaartnieuws as I don't speak Dutch).
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:50 pm

VLM announced 3 new destination from Antwerp as of June 4th 2018. The 3 new destinations are:
1. Aberdeen (3 weekly)
2. Cologne (5 weekly)
3. Rostock (5 weekly)

Aberdeen will be flown in combination with Birmingham twice weekly (ANR-ABZ-BHX-ANR) . The flight to Rostock will stop at Cologne.

http://www.aviation24.be/airlines/vlm-airlines/three-new-destinations-for-vlm-airlines-from-4-june-onwards-aberdeen-cologne-bonn-and-rostock/
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:53 pm

VLM is also reducing Munich-Ljubljana from 5 to 2 weekly due to low demand.

http://www.exyuaviation.com/2018/04/vlm ... tions.html
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:20 pm

Hereby the traffic figures for all commercial airports in the BeNeLux except Den Helder airport and Liege.

February 2018

Number of passengers
AMS: 4,741,806 (+9.66%)
EIN: 393,080 (+13.11%)
GRQ: 10,930 (+6.45%)
MST: 3,022 (-/-45.67%)
RTM: 88,493 (-/-11.60%)
LUX: 143,294 (+16.09%)
BRU: 1,648,874 (+5.37%)
CRL: 507,429
OST: 16,686 (+12.34%)
ANR: 20,221 (+18.06%)

The number of passengers contunes to decline at RTM.

Cargo in tons)
AMS: 135,246 (+1.27%)
MST: 10,494 (+84.85%)
RTM: 0 (-/-100%)
LUX: 62,622 (+6.09%)
BRU: 53,267 (+0.82%)
OST: 1,757 (+21.76%)
ANR: 156 (+34.48%)

Despite the issues at AMS, AMS did manage to increase the tonnage.

Number of movements
AMS: 36,409 (+5.01%)
EIN: 2,556 (+6.95%)
GRQ: 2,380 (+21.93%)
MST: 1,238 (+18.13%)
RTM: 3,791 (+23.12%)
LUX: 5,396 (+10.80%)
BRU: 16,479 (-/-0.87%)
OST: 1,910 (+44.81%)
ANR: 3,326 (+42.32%)

Sources:
Dutch airports: CBS
Other: repective airport websites
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:35 pm

What's driving all this growth at LUX?
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat Apr 07, 2018 7:58 pm

Blerg wrote:
What's driving all this growth at LUX?


Ryanair's new routes (BCN, BGY, LIS, MAD).
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:06 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
What's driving all this growth at LUX?


Ryanair's new routes (BCN, BGY, LIS, MAD).


Interesting. LUX-BCN/LIS is getting quite crowded. I think I read somewhere that Vueling is suspending their own BCN-LUX flights.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:42 am

Blerg wrote:
SCQ83 wrote:
Blerg wrote:
What's driving all this growth at LUX?


Ryanair's new routes (BCN, BGY, LIS, MAD).


Interesting. LUX-BCN/LIS is getting quite crowded. I think I read somewhere that Vueling is suspending their own BCN-LUX flights.


It seems like today is Vueling's last service. So VY is leaving the airport (or the country). I think VY have already left quite a few other Benelux airports to Ryanair. EIN one of them.

BCN is not crowded, there are two carriers: Luxair and Ryanair. Same as Madrid, for instance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_Airport

It is interesting there are 4 cities with 4 carriers (Luxair, the local legacy, Ryanair and easyJet): London, Milan, Porto and Lisbon. And then there is little competition. Only Berlin, Munich, Barcelona, Dublin, Madrid and Palma have some kind of competition between Luxair and a second carrier.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun Apr 08, 2018 6:32 am

Looking at the LUX Wikipedia page, it's interesting to note that the airport is not that busy (around 3 million passengers) yet it has three airlines offering a decent number of flights. I guess the answer is not just the local market but the airport's catchment area.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun Apr 08, 2018 7:46 am

Blerg wrote:
Looking at the LUX Wikipedia page, it's interesting to note that the airport is not that busy (around 3 million passengers) yet it has three airlines offering a decent number of flights. I guess the answer is not just the local market but the airport's catchment area.


Possibly the fact that the people of Luxemburg are on average not the poorest people on earth helps as well.
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:25 pm

Blerg wrote:
Looking at the LUX Wikipedia page, it's interesting to note that the airport is not that busy (around 3 million passengers) yet it has three airlines offering a decent number of flights. I guess the answer is not just the local market but the airport's catchment area.


LUX has a bigger catchment area than just the country. It's located better than airports like FRA for some parts of Germany (for example Trier,Saarbrücken) Though these are not the most populated areas in Germnay, it does add up. They can also draw some traffic from France (Metz is nearby). Again not the biggest cities in France, but LUX is an option for them.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:32 pm

Numbers for Schiphol are in (2017):

Not unsurprising, KLM was the biggest user of Schiphol.

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Source: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... r-schiphol

London still has the highest frequencies from Schiphol.

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Source: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... g-schiphol

And the numbers for Q1, 2018:

- 15,2 million, passengers (+8,2%)
- 10,2 million, European passengers (+8,5%)
- 4,7 million, Intercontinental (+7,8%)
- 6 million transite passengiers (8,6%)
- 411.539 ton of freight (-2,1%) with 7,4% less movement for dedicated freighters
- 112.241 movement (+3,4%)

Source: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... e-kwartaal
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:14 pm

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Not unsurprising, KLM was the biggest user of Schiphol.

To me it wasn't surprising at all. :cheeky:

- 6 million transite passengiers (8,6%)

Transit = continuing on same plane. Of those there were 27.000. But obviously you mean transfer.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:07 am

Dutchy wrote:
Numbers for Schiphol are in (2017):

Who was #12 in 2016 and what happened to cause them to lose at least half their flights and not even crack the top 20 in 2017?
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:09 am

blueflyer wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Numbers for Schiphol are in (2017):

Who was #12 in 2016 and what happened to cause them to lose at least half their flights and not even crack the top 20 in 2017?

Not 100% sure but I think it’s CityJet, as iirc in 2016 they had 8 flights to LCY alone.

They changed multiple daily frequencies from own flights to wet-lease for KL and I assume those are now included in KL’s numbers.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:20 am

KL are about to lease a Fokker 100 !
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:02 am

Transavia is restarting flights to TFS again from Groningen this winter (weekly on Fridays). This in addition to the 2x weekly TUI flights to LPA and the weekly Transavia to ACE. All nonstop flights.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 11:51 am

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KL are about to lease a Fokker 100 !



Source... for the quote and the aircraft....?
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:00 pm

TUGMASTER wrote:
CarbonFibre wrote:
KL are about to lease a Fokker 100 !



Source... for the quote and the aircraft....?


Source: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... fokker-100
Operator: Carpatair

Don't know the registration, but it mentions that this particular Fokker 100 was built for American Airlines.

Apparently, also Lufthansa and Air France will bring a wet-leased Fokker 100 to Schiphol this summer.

Nice to see them back at their place of birth. Call me sentimental, but far too few Fokker's come to Schiphol these days, really a dying breath.
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:55 pm

Aware of the LH flights using Helvetic aircraft, and the AF flights using Trade Air F100’s.....
great to see KL also using F100’s....
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Thu Apr 19, 2018 2:38 pm

TUGMASTER wrote:
Aware of the LH flights using Helvetic aircraft, and the AF flights using Trade Air F100’s.....
great to see KL also using F100’s....


Three operators are flying Fokker 100's to AMS:

- Lufthansa - MUC-AMS - Helvetic Fokker 100 = 2x daily
- Air France - RNS-AMS, CFE-AMS - Trade Air Fokker 100 - 2x daily
- Nordica - TLL-AMS - Carpatair Fokker 100 = 1x daily weekdays.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue May 01, 2018 2:08 pm

Maastricht Aken Airport got the green light to use all of its runway length, 2.750meters of it. Neighbors tried to block it in court but lost.

https://www.nu.nl/economie/5247092/luch ... uiken.html
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 3:09 pm

Interesting rumor. Jan Taube, Director Regional Management Eurowings in Düsseldorf: Eurowings is looking into starting operations from Rotterdam and Eindhoven. Palma de Mallorca is being named as a possibility, Eurowings has a base there. At the end of this year or in 2019 they are likely to set to expand beyond the DACH-region.

In Dutch: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... -eindhoven
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 3:36 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Interesting rumor. Jan Taube, Director Regional Management Eurowings in Düsseldorf: Eurowings is looking into starting operations from Rotterdam and Eindhoven. Palma de Mallorca is being named as a possibility, Eurowings has a base there. At the end of this year or in 2019 they are likely to set to expand beyond the DACH-region.

In Dutch: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... -eindhoven


My guess is that it has to do with AMS being maxed out. They need to look elsewhere for growth in the Dutch market.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 3:38 pm

Hey, can someone please educate me on the arrangement of KLM pilots and their Unions. I just fail to understand their subsidizing French ones. Thanks.

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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 4:03 pm

abrelosojos wrote:
Hey, can someone please educate me on the arrangement of KLM pilots and their Unions. I just fail to understand their subsidizing French ones. Thanks.

They aren't subsidizing French ones. The idea when that's being said is that on the holding level KL's profit is used to cover AF's loses, which is partially true looking at the last years.
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 4:09 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Interesting rumor. Jan Taube, Director Regional Management Eurowings in Düsseldorf: Eurowings is looking into starting operations from Rotterdam and Eindhoven. Palma de Mallorca is being named as a possibility, Eurowings has a base there. At the end of this year or in 2019 they are likely to set to expand beyond the DACH-region.

In Dutch: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... -eindhoven


Rotterdam should have potential. Now RTM is a Transavia monopoly with little competition and fares tend to be relatively high.

Eindhoven could be a bit more tricky, as Ryanair, Transavia and Wizzair are quite big players there, so a 4th low-cost carrier will be interesting to see how it works. Yet there are only two destinations in DACH from EIN: SZG (Transavia) and VIE (Wizzair). I reckon Eurowings will have potential linking EIN with some sun destinations + major German-speaking cities (Berlin, Munich, Hamburg, Stuttgart, Zurich...)
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 4:29 pm

Hearing rumours that the Ethiopian flight to Brussels is changing to operate as ADD-BRU-MAN instead of ADD-VIE-BRU starting this November.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 6:15 pm

Busy with work thus the March traffic figures for the BeNeLux with a slight delay

March 2018

Number of passengers
AMS: 5,559,456 (+7.72%)
EIN: 452,090 (+8.49%)
GRQ: 12,606 (+14.75%)
MST: 5,502 (-/-19.64%)
RTM: 121,533 (+0.09%)
LUX: 299,904 (+22.58%)
BRU: 1,961,759 (+4.38%)
CRL: 584,880
OST: 20,483 (+18.97%)
ANR: 24,216 (+12.07%)

LUX keeps on growing with 20%+ growth in March 2018. OST is a good second.

Cargo in tons
AMS: 148,211 (+-/-4.96%)
MST: 11,771 (+70.17%)
LUX: 82,264 (+16.74%)
BRU: 66,938 (+3.21%)
OST: 2,259 (+18.40%)
ANR: 196 (+33.33%)

Cargo at MST is booming due to the slot issues at AMS. LUX keeps on growing on the cargo side as well.

Movements
AMS: 41,675 (+1.68%)
EIN: 2,899 (+5.49%)
GRQ: 2,387 (-/-3.71%)
MST: 1,491 (-/-31.89%)
RTM: 4,151 (-/-8.51%)
LUX: 6,258 (+3.75%)
BRU: 18,797 (-/-3.78%)
OST: 2,274 (+13.98%)
ANR: 3,155 (-/-16.29%)
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sat May 12, 2018 6:26 pm

SCQ83 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Interesting rumor. Jan Taube, Director Regional Management Eurowings in Düsseldorf: Eurowings is looking into starting operations from Rotterdam and Eindhoven. Palma de Mallorca is being named as a possibility, Eurowings has a base there. At the end of this year or in 2019 they are likely to set to expand beyond the DACH-region.

In Dutch: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... -eindhoven


Rotterdam should have potential. Now RTM is a Transavia monopoly with little competition and fares tend to be relatively high.


Yet LH tried before ex RTM and that wasn't a success. The same for Turkish who left as well. The Schiphol Group doesn't actually want LCCs at RTM. For this purpose they have EIN and LEY in a few years. Moreover, RTM does have Corendon and TUI next to Transavia. They capture the charter business.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 6:35 am

I read somewhere that EIN is getting quite full as well. Is that true? Is there an expansion plan put in place?

Interesting about AMS. Has the growth come from larger aircraft being sent since I remember there are no free slots left.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 7:34 am

Blerg wrote:
Interesting about AMS. Has the growth come from larger aircraft being sent since I remember there are no free slots left.


In S18 carriers will be operating larger aircraft into AMS to overcome the slot restrictions:

- KL replaces Fokker 70 with E75 = +8 seats on many 100s of movements each month.
- DL replaces A332/767 with A333 and A359
- SU replaces A321 with A332
- EY replaces A332 with B77W
- LH replaces CRJ900 with Fokker 100
- AF replaces CRJ700 with Fokker 100
- SK replaces CRJ900 with B737/A320
- LO replaces E190 with B738 and CRJ700 with Fokker 100
- AE replaces B737 with A332/B788/B789
- AM replaces B788 with B789
- RJ replaces A320 with B788
- RO replaces B733 with B738
- EZY replaces A320 with A321
- TK replaces A321 with 3x A333 daily
- AY replaces A321 with A333
- WW replaces A321 with A333
- FI replaces B757 with B767
- AC replaces B767 with B789
- etc, etc, etc..
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 8:05 am

factsonly wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Interesting about AMS. Has the growth come from larger aircraft being sent since I remember there are no free slots left.


In S18 carriers will be operating larger aircraft into AMS to overcome the slot restrictions:

- KL replaces Fokker 70 with E75 = +8 seats on many 100s of movements each month.
- DL replaces A332/767 with A333 and A359
- SU replaces A321 with A332
- EY replaces A332 with B77W
- LH replaces CRJ900 with Fokker 100
- AF replaces CRJ700 with Fokker 100
- SK replaces CRJ900 with B737/A320
- LO replaces E190 with B738 and CRJ700 with Fokker 100
- AE replaces B737 with A332/B788/B789
- AM replaces B788 with B789
- RJ replaces A320 with B788
- RO replaces B733 with B738
- EZY replaces A320 with A321
- TK replaces A321 with 3x A333 daily
- AY replaces A321 with A333
- WW replaces A321 with A333
- FI replaces B757 with B767
- AC replaces B767 with B789
- etc, etc, etc..


Wow ... that's pretty impressive. I suppose AMS will become one of Europe's busiest airports in terms of widebody movement.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 8:15 am

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Wow ... that's pretty impressive. I suppose AMS will become one of Europe's busiest airports in terms of widebody movement.


Well, AMS is already Europe's busiest airport in terms of movements, and yes indeed due to slot restrictions .... the number of widebodies will increase.

AIRPORT MOVEMENTS 2017:
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 13, 2018 10:39 am

Blerg wrote:
Interesting about AMS. Has the growth come from larger aircraft being sent since I remember there are no free slots left.


Not entirely true. There are always unused slots due to cancellations (for example due to bad weather). In the past these were not redistributed, but some airlines won a court case recently which requires AMS to reuse them.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Mon May 14, 2018 7:15 am

User001 wrote:
Hearing rumours that the Ethiopian flight to Brussels is changing to operate as ADD-BRU-MAN instead of ADD-VIE-BRU starting this November.


This post aged well...

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/arti ... ls-flights
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Mon May 14, 2018 9:21 am

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LUX keeps on growing with 20%+ growth in March 2018. OST is a good second.


Looking at those numbers I find interesting Eurowings does not fly to Luxembourg, given that they want to expand outside DACH and plan Netherlands.

Specially since Lufthansa and Luxair took ways apart. Currently Lufthansa Group connects LUX with FRA, MUC and ZRH. I think HAM (only flown with Luxair via SCN) and TXL (flown with Luxair, and easyJet to SXF) could work. Maybe even VIE. And of course some sun destination like PMI.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Mon May 14, 2018 3:03 pm

factsonly wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Interesting about AMS. Has the growth come from larger aircraft being sent since I remember there are no free slots left.

In S18 carriers will be operating larger aircraft into AMS to overcome the slot restrictions:

- AY replaces A321 with A333

I believe this one is false. AY does run the A333 to AMS occasionally but very infrequently and their booking engine continues to show A321 for now.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 12:05 pm

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In S18 carriers will be operating larger aircraft into AMS to overcome the slot restrictions.

Not all are linked to the tight slot supply. Some are seasonal upgauges from Winter schedule to Summer schedule that would have happened even if slots were freely available, some are planned capacity increases, and some are due to a lack of slots for additional frequencies.
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue May 15, 2018 2:01 pm

The -GOV is out from the paintshop:

 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 27, 2018 6:59 pm

Transavia will retrofit four Boeing 737-800's with Split Scimitar Winglets. They will add 370km to the aircraft's range. Transavia, according to CEO Mattijs ten Brink, will use these aircraft to get to destinations like Kaapverdië, Eilat and Dubai. They will be retrofitted during the winter month. The retrofit will cost approximately € 492.000.

In Dutch: https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... boeing-737
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 27, 2018 8:34 pm

Hm. There is something I don't get, if they are adding them to get extra 370 km to their range then how come Eilat and Dubai fall in the same category? I was under the impression a B738 could make it from NL to Eilat.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Sun May 27, 2018 9:06 pm

QR has been flying to BRU with a 77W instead of the regular A359 lately. Was it planned?
 
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Tue May 29, 2018 6:06 pm

Blerg wrote:
Hm. There is something I don't get, if they are adding them to get extra 370 km to their range then how come Eilat and Dubai fall in the same category? I was under the impression a B738 could make it from NL to Eilat.


Of course they can, but now they need a little less fuel for it.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Tue May 29, 2018 8:24 pm

EK temporary reduces BRU-DXB. On monday, tuesday and wednesday they go 1x daily instead of 2x daily.

https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... ar-brussel
 
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Sat Jun 02, 2018 8:46 pm

TuiFly will start a weekly flight to Mombassa as of November 6th. Flight will be operated together with Zanzibar and flown by a 787.
 
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Re: BeNeLux aviation - 2018

Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:13 pm

Hereby the traffic figures for April. The figures from Maastricht Airport are omitted as the Dutch statistical office (CBS) didn't receive them

April

Number of passengers
AMS: 6,016,915 (+3.08%)
EIN: 537,248 (+6.80%)
GRQ: 14,487 (-/-6.66%)
RTM: 144,208 (-/-6.28%)
LUX: 357,805 (+11.85%)
BRU: 2,253,476 (+5.02%)
CRL: 743,254
OST: 33,779 (+27.50%)
ANR: 27,286 (+10.76%)

Cargo in tons
AMS: 138,953 (-/- 6.43%)
LUX: 76,583 (-/- 1.17%)
BRU: 61,500 (+4.50%)
OST: 2,451 (+34.08%)
ANR: 214 (+13.83%)

Number of movements
AMS: 43,349 (-/-0.15%)
EIN: 3,260 (+1.78%)
GRQ: 3,053 (16.53%)
RTM: 4,835 (+1.15%)
LUX: 6,930 (+6.45%)
BRU: 19,893 (+1.67%)
CRL: 7,526
OST: 2,611 (+35.71%)
ANR: 4,035 (+17.54%)

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