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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:55 pm

The real problem with YQB's low numbers (1.67 million vs population of ~700k) is that the residents fly/travel at notably lower levels than the rest of Canadians and far, far lower levels than Americans. It has been catching up to some degree in recent years however.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:39 pm

Another record year at YLW with strong +9.2% growth to 1,893,470 pax.

Full monthly breakdown is here: https://ylw.kelowna.ca/news-events/news ... ngers-2017

Skywatcher wrote:
The real problem with YQB's low numbers (1.67 million vs population of ~700k) is that the residents fly/travel at notably lower levels than the rest of Canadians and far, far lower levels than Americans. It has been catching up to some degree in recent years however.


You've gotta thing that as YQB gets closer to the 2 million mark that they'll finally be able to attract (at least seasonally) a daily nonstop to YHZ and to Western Canada.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:53 pm

YOW's year-end numbers are now out:

Dom: 3,813,672 / +3.7%
TB: 647,574 / -3.8% --> Like YEG, this started growing for the first time in eons in Q4. Approx. 128k off 2012's record.
Int'l: 378,431 / -3.0% --> Approx. 68k off 2012's record.
TTL: 4,839,677 +2.0%

If the transborder bleeding can stop and if YOW can attract an ULCC, there's an outside chance YOW could hit 5 million in 2018.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:14 pm

YYG had another record-breaking year.
370,688 passengers +4.6%

The increase in traffic came in the summer months as May (5.5%), June (9.8%), July (9.9%), August (11.8%) and September (5.9%) all saw significant increases compared to 2016.


http://www.flypei.com/news/Charlottetow ... tting-Year
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:43 pm

Here's YMM for 2017: 713,108 -4.3%

That's a little over half of their 2013 peak of 1.3 million.

http://www.flyymm.com/sites/default/fil ... port_0.pdf
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:48 pm

yikes-YMM (Ft.McMurray) was down even worse for Dec'17 (-9.5%) indicating that the trend is not reversing. This is a sign of just how brutally the oilsands economy has been hit.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:00 pm

That new YMM terminal was long overdue but sadly came to existence within a year or two of the oil collapse (if that). The YMM AA is now stuck with a huge bill and just over 50% of previous volume to cover the cost. No wonder they have the highest AIF at $40.

Nice to see their charter numbers going up again. It will take a long time (if ever) before we see the type of scheduled service they once had (ie. UA/OO DEN; WS LAS/YLW).

Have they, at least temporarily, consolidated charter flights back into the Main terminal for cost savings?
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:18 pm

I think the worst is over for YMM. For the summer 2018 schedule WS, are increasing YYC by 1 daily and YEG gets an extra flight on weekends.

AC have 2x daily E90 service to YYZ loaded for this summer.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:28 pm

YTZ's hit 2.8 million in 2017...as per this press release they issued today about their Skytrax "award". I love how with Skytrax some top 3 ASQ airport winners (which I always consider to be the true benchmark survey) don't even make the top 50 or 100 in Skytrax's 'ratings' system.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/b ... 35313.html

In addition, YTZ say they're now number 6 in Canada for transborder pax. Meaning their transborder pax numbers are somewhere in between YOW at #7 at 647k and YEG at #5 at 879k.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:13 pm

YYF Pentiction is one of 18 airports in Canada that is still operated by Transport Canada. TC have announced an expansion of YYF's terminal to accommodate all the growth...thanks do doubt from Encore.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... dtole.html

However, their stats are a year late (from 2016) and don't include a raw pax total number. Nevertheless...

In 2016, the Penticton Airport handled 26,893 aircraft movements, an 18% increase in air traffic since from 2014. The passenger volume in 2016 has increased 64% since 2014.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Tue Apr 03, 2018 5:31 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
YYF Pentiction is one of 18 airports in Canada that is still operated by Transport Canada. TC have announced an expansion of YYF's terminal to accommodate all the growth...thanks do doubt from Encore.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... dtole.html

However, their stats are a year late (from 2016) and don't include a raw pax total number. Nevertheless...

In 2016, the Penticton Airport handled 26,893 aircraft movements, an 18% increase in air traffic since from 2014. The passenger volume in 2016 has increased 64% since 2014.


Which are the other airports in Canada that are still operated by Transport Canada?
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:22 pm

Noise wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
YYF Pentiction is one of 18 airports in Canada that is still operated by Transport Canada. TC have announced an expansion of YYF's terminal to accommodate all the growth...thanks do doubt from Encore.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... dtole.html

However, their stats are a year late (from 2016) and don't include a raw pax total number. Nevertheless...

In 2016, the Penticton Airport handled 26,893 aircraft movements, an 18% increase in air traffic since from 2014. The passenger volume in 2016 has increased 64% since 2014.


Which are the other airports in Canada that are still operated by Transport Canada?


http://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviatio ... owned.html
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:06 pm

Noise wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
YYF Pentiction is one of 18 airports in Canada that is still operated by Transport Canada. TC have announced an expansion of YYF's terminal to accommodate all the growth...thanks do doubt from Encore.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... dtole.html

However, their stats are a year late (from 2016) and don't include a raw pax total number. Nevertheless...

In 2016, the Penticton Airport handled 26,893 aircraft movements, an 18% increase in air traffic since from 2014. The passenger volume in 2016 has increased 64% since 2014.


Which are the other airports in Canada that are still operated by Transport Canada?


Here's a list of all 18: https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviati ... owned.html

Penticton, Sept-Iles and Wabush are definitely the 'biggest' of the 18.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:50 pm

Dominion301 wrote:
Noise wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
YYF Pentiction is one of 18 airports in Canada that is still operated by Transport Canada. TC have announced an expansion of YYF's terminal to accommodate all the growth...thanks do doubt from Encore.

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-cana ... dtole.html

However, their stats are a year late (from 2016) and don't include a raw pax total number. Nevertheless...



Which are the other airports in Canada that are still operated by Transport Canada?


Here's a list of all 18: https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviati ... owned.html

Penticton, Sept-Iles and Wabush are definitely the 'biggest' of the 18.


Any way we can see nonstop service from Penticton to Toronto, in the near future? I ask because I see Air Canada adding service to Nanaimo and Kamloops from Toronto with Rouge.
 
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:12 am

Noise wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
Noise wrote:

Which are the other airports in Canada that are still operated by Transport Canada?


Here's a list of all 18: https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviati ... owned.html

Penticton, Sept-Iles and Wabush are definitely the 'biggest' of the 18.


Any way we can see nonstop service from Penticton to Toronto, in the near future? I ask because I see Air Canada adding service to Nanaimo and Kamloops from Toronto with Rouge.


Only a 6,000 ft runway, at 1,130 ft altitude. Plus it gets pretty hot in Penticton in the summer. Far from ideal. Payload restrictions would be applied on a Rouge A319.

Nanaimo has a slightly longer runway, at sea level, and Kamloops has an 8,000 ft runway at roughly the same altitude as Penticton. So those two are better equipped to handle an A319 on a 3,000km + journey to YYZ.
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:08 am

The thing about YMM is that the three private aerodrome's in the area (YFI, JHL, HZP) take a lot of pax away from YMM. YFI alone had over 500,000 pax fly through last year alone.

But YMM really has become very quiet - the landside Tim Horton's didn't last long nor did the Mary Brown's. The landside Burger King and Subway as well as the airside Starbucks have very limited hours now.

Took this earlier today flying over YMM from YFI to YEG ...

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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:17 am

Dominion301 wrote:
YYF Pentiction is one of 18 airports in Canada that is still operated by Transport Canada. TC have announced an expansion of YYF's terminal to accommodate all the growth...thanks do doubt from Encore.

No doubt because of Encore? Seriously? They have one daily flight to YYC on a 78 seat Q. AC also dropped one of their daily Dash 8s to YVR.

Noise wrote:
Any way we can see nonstop service from Penticton to Toronto, in the near future? I ask because I see Air Canada adding service to Nanaimo and Kamloops from Toronto with Rouge.

YLW is only an hour north, don't think the traffic south/east/west of Penticton would satisfy the capacity for a YYZ flight. YKA could work, if enough people drive down from Willams Lake maybe even Prince George. Nanaimo has a population of 84K while Penticton only has 34K. As well as the tourism traffic for Ucluelet and Tofino.
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Re: Canadian Airport 2017 Year-End Passenger Stats

Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:29 am

ACDC8 wrote:
Dominion301 wrote:
YYF Pentiction is one of 18 airports in Canada that is still operated by Transport Canada. TC have announced an expansion of YYF's terminal to accommodate all the growth...thanks do doubt from Encore.

No doubt because of Encore? Seriously? They have one daily flight to YYC on a 78 seat Q. AC also dropped one of their daily Dash 8s to YVR.

Noise wrote:
Any way we can see nonstop service from Penticton to Toronto, in the near future? I ask because I see Air Canada adding service to Nanaimo and Kamloops from Toronto with Rouge.

YLW is only an hour north, don't think the traffic south/east/west of Penticton would satisfy the capacity for a YYZ flight. YKA could work, if enough people drive down from Willams Lake maybe even Prince George. Nanaimo has a population of 84K while Penticton only has 34K. As well as the tourism traffic for Ucluelet and Tofino.


The impact of a single daily new Q400 flight at an airport the size of YYF is enormous. Maybe that’s why TC used 2016’s pax numbers as perhaps losing an AC DH3 negatively affected YYF’s 2017 results?

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