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Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:18 pm

Pre-assembly of the first a/c is now underway.

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https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 9622045697

The previous discussion can be found at viewtopic.php?f=3&t=558021
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:34 pm

I wonder if Boeing is using the Dreamlifters to bring in large plane parts from Japan
like the fuselage panel shown above?
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:07 pm

Sooner787 wrote:
I wonder if Boeing is using the Dreamlifters to bring in large plane parts from Japan
like the fuselage panel shown above?


Being alloy won`t the fuselage & wings be built in-house like previous triple 7 models? Even if wings are
carbon-fibre covered ( didn`t they buy an autoclave for the wings? ) surely they`d do that in Seattle too?
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:37 am

Tedd wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
I wonder if Boeing is using the Dreamlifters to bring in large plane parts from Japan
like the fuselage panel shown above?


Being alloy won`t the fuselage & wings be built in-house like previous triple 7 models? Even if wings are
carbon-fibre covered ( didn`t they buy an autoclave for the wings? ) surely they`d do that in Seattle too?

Japanese had 21% of the 777 airframe and will have same on the 777X.

Presently MHI is in charge of aft fuselages, fuselage tail sections and passenger entry doors; KHI, forward and center fuselages, main landing gear wheel wells, cargo doors and pressure bulkheads; FHI, center wing section, integration of the center wing section with the main landing gear wheel wells, main landing gear doors and wing-to-body fairings (forward); SMIC, wing-to-body fairings (center and aft); and NIPPI, wing components.

https://www.mhi.co.jp/en/m/news/story/140612.html
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:42 am

Ive been working 777s for over 2 years now and have yet to find any part of the plane that's been built/manufactured in the US. Granted not every single part of the aircraft has a "Made in XXX" stamped on it, but a large part of some them do. Ironically when I was working A330s I found a decent number of components that built/manufactured here in the US.
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:45 am

Sooner787 wrote:
I wonder if Boeing is using the Dreamlifters to bring in large plane parts from Japan like the fuselage panel shown above?


The Dreamlifters are dedicated to 787 production.

The Japanese suppliers of the 777's fuselage panels will be doing the same for the 777X and both sets will arrive via ship at Mukilteo and then delivered by train to the FAL.

The 777X's wings will be built by Boeing in Everett.
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:29 am

Those sure don't look like 787-sized windows. Didn't Boeing suggest that they would use larger windows on the 777X? Fixinthe757, what's the scoop on the 777X's windows?
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:58 pm

Mitsubishi also had a delivery event.

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Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:36 pm

F14TCT wrote:
Mitsubishi also had a delivery event.

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http://www.mhi.com/news/story/1802072106.html

It points out a point worth making:

Tokyo, February 7, 2018 - Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Ltd. (MHI) has delivered the aft fuselage panels for the first Boeing 777X, Boeing's next-generation wide-body passenger aircraft. The panels were shipped from MHI's Hiroshima Machinery Works Eba Plant.

787 was the first Boeing airliner where whole sections were delivered stuffed to the FAL. Given the high value of such sections, and the difficulty in transporting them via mixed modes, the Dreamlifter approach was taken.

My understanding is the 777 is still 'stick built' i.e. the various pieces/parts are delivered to KPAE and largely assembled on site. Thus we talk of aft fuse panels being delivered via ship instead of completed sections being delivered by air.

It seems Boeing didn't want to turn things over too much ( other than doing the wings in house ) for 777x and is largely following the existing production model ( but with more automation ).
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:38 pm

Fixinthe757 wrote:
Ive been working 777s for over 2 years now and have yet to find any part of the plane that's been built/manufactured in the US. Granted not every single part of the aircraft has a "Made in XXX" stamped on it, but a large part of some them do. Ironically when I was working A330s I found a decent number of components that built/manufactured here in the US.


It's the same thing that Japanese and US automakers do... my Toyota Camry has one of the highest percentages of US made components of any car, and yet it's still "foreign"... oh America.
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:48 pm

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It seems Boeing didn't want to turn things over too much ( other than doing the wings in house ) for 777x and is largely following the existing production model ( but with more automation ).


Boeing was pretty clear on existing production from the beginning.
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:56 am

Received yesterday an email marketing from Boeing (I believe many of you also did) talking about the 777X composite wings, as follows:

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Join us live at 10 AM Pacific Time from the 777X Composite Wing Center in Everett, Washington as we look inside the world's largest autoclave.

Our experts will give you a behind the scenes tour of the autoclaves which produce critical parts for the all-new 777X composite wing.

Click either of the images below to listen live on Facebook or Twitter, and submit your 777X questions in the comments.
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I'm assuming the event is already in the past now so any of you folks have something to share?
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:11 pm

Ha, I've just watched that 25 minute live feed on Twitter. Was very interesting. I like it Boeing.
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:08 pm

Fixinthe757 wrote:
Ive been working 777s for over 2 years now and have yet to find any part of the plane that's been built/manufactured in the US. Granted not every single part of the aircraft has a "Made in XXX" stamped on it, but a large part of some them do. Ironically when I was working A330s I found a decent number of components that built/manufactured here in the US.


Spirit Aerosystems Wichita builds the Section 41, and Nacelles of all 777s

Spirit Aerosystems Tulsa builds the floor beams and slats on 777s.
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:30 pm

Stitch wrote:
Sooner787 wrote:
I wonder if Boeing is using the Dreamlifters to bring in large plane parts from Japan like the fuselage panel shown above?


The Dreamlifters are dedicated to 787 production.

The Japanese suppliers of the 777's fuselage panels will be doing the same for the 777X and both sets will arrive via ship at Mukilteo and then delivered by train to the FAL


Just out of Curiosity, how many days it takes for the total shipment.
 
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:50 pm

Next time you're on a 777x/777/787, you are (at least in part) on a Subaru!

Subaru completes first 777X centre wing box

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Ref: https://www.subaru.co.jp/press/news-en/2018_02_09_5450/
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:31 pm

wow, it's really starting to come together.

I think the X is going to be a real step forward for Boeing. They are refining their carbon techniques with the wings, and automating more and more of the processes.
More precision, more ability to take out weight, more repeatability, and less reliance on human labor to do some of the tasks.

We're starting to see the future, and I think it's exciting.

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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:02 pm

Revelation wrote:
Next time you're on a 777x/777/787, you are (at least in part) on a Subaru!


Subaru is Fuji Heavy Industries. ( at least that is what the papers for my Subaru minibus said.:-)
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Re: Boeing 777X Production Thread 2018

Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:07 pm

WIederling wrote:
Revelation wrote:
Next time you're on a 777x/777/787, you are (at least in part) on a Subaru!


Subaru is Fuji Heavy Industries. ( at least that is what the papers for my Subaru minibus said.:-)

Fuji Heavy Industries actually rebranded itself as Subaru Corporation to reflect its most well known brand.

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