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Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:04 am

Deal includes 3 ex-SriLankan A350s.

China's Sichuan Airlines has signed a deal with Airbus to buy 10 A350-900 widebody jets worth over 20 billion yuan ($3 billion) at list prices, an Airbus spokeswoman said on Friday.

CAAC News, which is affiliated to the Civil Aviation Administration of China, earlier reported that the deal was the largest ever placed by Sichuan Airlines, whose parent is China Southern Airlines.


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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:21 pm

Congrats Airbus and Sichuan Airlines.
 
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:22 pm

So the three ex-SriLankan that are sitting around at TLS, tangled up in a proxy trade-war + 7 new frames?

Any developments in the EU(Airbus)-China situation?
 
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:26 pm

Lilienthal wrote:
Any developments in the EU(Airbus)-China situation?


What did I miss, what situation? The rumored A380 deal you mean?
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:30 pm

Lilienthal wrote:
Any developments in the EU(Airbus)-China situation?


CAAC certificaiton is underway, see http://news.carnoc.com/list/434/434971.html
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:36 pm

Dutchy wrote:
Lilienthal wrote:
Any developments in the EU(Airbus)-China situation?


What did I miss, what situation? The rumored A380 deal you mean?



see: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1383581
 
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:45 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Lilienthal wrote:
Any developments in the EU(Airbus)-China situation?


CAAC certificaiton is underway, see http://news.carnoc.com/list/434/434971.html



The same kind of "underway" than before, or is it a different kind of "underway" now? ;)
 
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:56 pm

Lilienthal wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Lilienthal wrote:
Any developments in the EU(Airbus)-China situation?


CAAC certificaiton is underway, see http://news.carnoc.com/list/434/434971.html



The same kind of "underway" than before, or is it a different kind of "underway" now? ;)


According to the article, CAAC started reviewing the A350 in June 2017 and has now reached the 3rd phase. The process usually takes 10 to 12 months.
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:14 pm

G'day

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According to the article, CAAC started reviewing the A350 in June 2017 and has now reached the 3rd phase. The process usually takes 10 to 12 months.


Why on earth did they start this review so late, with all mayor Chinese airlines having ordered the plane they only hurt themselves. Predelivery payments have already been made so what is this all about? Do I miss something here? :hissyfit:

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:19 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Deal includes 3 ex-SriLankan A350s.

China's Sichuan Airlines has signed a deal with Airbus to buy 10 A350-900 widebody jets worth over 20 billion yuan ($3 billion) at list prices, an Airbus spokeswoman said on Friday.

CAAC News, which is affiliated to the Civil Aviation Administration of China, earlier reported that the deal was the largest ever placed by Sichuan Airlines, whose parent is China Southern Airlines.


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https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/02 ... lines.html


Two of the three have been handed over to AerCap. The third is still owned by Airbus despite being painted with a special Panda Sichuan livery. Will be interesting to see if the other 7 are additions to the Airbus orderbook. According to the latest Airbus spreadsheet AerCap has already taken 15 of the 20 A350-900s they ordered.

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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:19 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
KarelXWB wrote:
Deal includes 3 ex-SriLankan A350s.

China's Sichuan Airlines has signed a deal with Airbus to buy 10 A350-900 widebody jets worth over 20 billion yuan ($3 billion) at list prices, an Airbus spokeswoman said on Friday.

CAAC News, which is affiliated to the Civil Aviation Administration of China, earlier reported that the deal was the largest ever placed by Sichuan Airlines, whose parent is China Southern Airlines.


Article
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2018/02 ... lines.html


Two of the three have been handed over to AerCap. The third is still owned by Airbus despite being painted with a special Panda Sichuan livery. Will be interesting to see if the other 7 are additions to the Airbus orderbook. According to the latest Airbus spreadsheet AerCap has already taken 15 of the 20 A350-900s they ordered.

Geoff


I would say it is not clear if Sichuan will get 10 or 13 A350, or perhaps 12. MSN52 and 55 are currently owned by AirCap, why should they be part of 10 frame order still to come? It can easily be one deal to lease some frames from AirCap and another deal to buy frames at Airbus.
 
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:20 pm

Sichuan signed A350 lease contracts in 2016 (3x Aercap) and 2017 (1x ALC). Those deals were publicly announced.

Today's announcement is an order directly with Airbus. John Leahy and Eric Schulz were present.

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Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:59 pm

I guess this is the start of the firming up of the a350s announcement from last year by China.
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:16 pm

ap305 wrote:
I guess this is the start of the firming up of the a350s announcement from last year by China.


I tend to agree, it's quite possible that Sichuan's order is part of the 40 A350s announcement in 2017.
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Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:44 pm

Seems a pointless exercise by CAAC given it is already certified and being flown to Chinese cities......
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Re: Sichuan Airlines finalizes deal for 10 A350-900 aircraft

Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:06 pm

Heavierthanair wrote:
Why on earth did they start this review so late, with all mayor Chinese airlines having ordered the plane they only hurt themselves. Predelivery payments have already been made so what is this all about? Do I miss something here? :hissyfit:


Not sure why it takes so long.

P&W powered A320neo was certified in December 2015, some 12 months after EASA certification.
P&W powered A321neo was certified in December 2016, some 10 months after EASA certification.

CFM powered A320neo/A321neo certification is in progress, as well as A350 review.
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