KarelXWB wrote:That's another 12-month delay.
lightsaber wrote:Everyone should recall, this was the LEAP engine launch customer.
lightsaber wrote:KarelXWB wrote:That's another 12-month delay.
I'm more concerned that this 2013 prediction is coming true:
http://m.aviationweek.com/commercial-av ... ience-c919
In addition, the task of properly certificating a secondary component supplier under FAA guidelines is unknown to Comac, and it has dozens of Chinese suppliers to audit. It just cannot be done in a timely manner, or at least by the new target date of 2015 for the maiden flight. Up to mid-2012, Comac engineers were still asking basic questions: Can you help us design a test protocol for this system? How do Boeing or Airbus do this, what documents do we need for the FAA to approve this system ? It was shocking since Comac was only two years away from the originally scheduled first flight in 2014.
KarelXWB wrote:People insist Comac will go after EASA certification, but that's just as difficult as FAA certification. As long as there are no FAA/EASA engineers stationed in China, I'm not sure how Comac can achieve its goal.
Aesma wrote:Didn't I read in another thread that China is taking Airbus and Boeing hostage to get the FAA and EASA to sign off on Chinese certification ?
F27500 wrote:Doesn't see anyones in much of a rush for a Chinese built DC9 ripoff anyway ... so they can probably take their time.
KarelXWB wrote:People insist Comac will go after EASA certification, but that's just as difficult as FAA certification. As long as there are no FAA/EASA engineers stationed in China, I'm not sure how Comac can achieve its goal.
Kikko19 wrote:Will it be far superior than any a320/737 as I read somewhere?
Kikko19 wrote:Will it be far superior than any a320/737 as I read somewhere?
DfwRevolution wrote:Aesma wrote:Didn't I read in another thread that China is taking Airbus and Boeing hostage to get the FAA and EASA to sign off on Chinese certification ?
Hostages as in people?![]()
I worked with some American chemical engineers who went to China in the 80s to discuss a licensing agreement for certain petrochemical processes. Their passports were confiscated and they weren't allowed to leave until they had given the process designs to their Chinese counterparts. If that's still going on, then... wow.
chrisp390 wrote:F27500 wrote:Doesn't see anyones in much of a rush for a Chinese built DC9 ripoff anyway ... so they can probably take their time.
This isn't the ARJ, this is a different plane with over 500 orders. The question however is how many of those orders are genuine rather than the Chinese government forcing them to place an order.
mxaxai wrote:DfwRevolution wrote:Aesma wrote:Didn't I read in another thread that China is taking Airbus and Boeing hostage to get the FAA and EASA to sign off on Chinese certification ?
Hostages as in people?![]()
I worked with some American chemical engineers who went to China in the 80s to discuss a licensing agreement for certain petrochemical processes. Their passports were confiscated and they weren't allowed to leave until they had given the process designs to their Chinese counterparts. If that's still going on, then... wow.
It's more like
" We won't let you sell your stuff in China if you don't certify our aircraft. And since we can't outright ban your imports, we'll just make it ridiculously difficult and time-consuming. "
Also
" Of course you can sell your stuff here. Just build a FAL and show us how it's done. Also no VPN for safe transmission of data because, you know, VPN's are evil. "
It's not just aircraft but, for example, cars as well.
News from Singapore suggests that the C919 might be delayed again. Tracking, using Flightradar24, of the flight test aircraft show that B-001A last had activity on December 19 and there is nothing on B-001C. The second C919, B-001C had its first flight of 2018 on January 14th. The aircraft took off from Shanghai Pudong International Airport at 7:38 a.m. and landed at 10:33 after a flight of two hours and 55 minutes. A Bloomberg article points out that this flight test program is much slower than Western programs and even slower than one might have expected from an aircraft from COMAC.