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OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:10 pm

FAQ

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares departures for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

THE SCHEDULES SHOWN HERE CHANGE AFTER YOU POST???
-To improve is to change; to be perfect is to change often---Winston Churchill. This is data the carriers filed at the point in time it was captured. It's changed since then. You are just going to have to live with it.

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

WHERE ARE SEATS SHOWN?
They aren't. This only shows departures.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Flights that do not operate every day of the month create fractional service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. For example, if a flight operates 4 times in April it will show 4/30=0.133=0.1. Also , a flight that only operates once per week may vary between 0.1 and 0.2 because a weekday may repeat either 4 or 5 times depending on the month.

WHAT ABOUT CARRIERS THAT DON'T PUBLISH A SCHEDULE 9 MONTHS IN ADVANCE?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. I remove the schedule adds if I see them and show a year over year (YOY) comparison if I notice them.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE SKYWEST
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ERROR?
The carriers file the schedules. They do make mistakes. Most of the mistakes I have seen are either related to code shares not being marked as "duplicates" or carriers filing flights with invalid data such as equipment codes that are not standard. This causes flights to not appear.

CHARTERS?
Lately charters have been showing up in the database. I have no idea if that will continue.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

Dont think MKL has ever had ATL before.
*3E ATL-MKL MAR 0>0.8 APR 0>0.9 MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
3E DEC-STL MAR 3>1.8
3E MKL-STL MAR 3>1.8 APR 3>1.9 MAY 3>1.9 JUN 3>1.8 JUL 3>1.9 AUG 3>1.9 SEP 3>1.8

AA MIA-SJU JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
AA PHL-MSN JUN 1.2>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2 SEP 1.0>2 OCT 1.0>2

AM ORD-GDL JUN 1.5>1.9

BA EWR-ORY JUL 1.0>0.8 AUG 1.0>0.9

BR JFK-TPE JUN 1.6>1.4 JUL 1.6>1.0 AUG 1.5>1.0 SEP 1.6>1.0 OCT 1.6>1.0

*BW JFK-SVD APR 0>0.1 MAY 0>0.2 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.2 SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1

Wonder why the certificate switch?
DI AUS-LGW APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
DI BOS-LGW MAR 0>0.2 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0.1>0.9
DI DEN-LGW APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0.0>0.4
DI FLL-LGW APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0.1>0.3
DI JFK-LGW MAR 0>0.2 APR 0>0.9 MAY 0>1.8 JUN 0>1.9 JUL 0>1.9 AUG 0>1.8 SEP 0>1.9 OCT 0.3>1.9
DI LAX-LGW MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>1.3 MAY 0>1.3 JUN 0>1.3 JUL 0>1.3 AUG 0>1.3 SEP 0>1.3 OCT 0.2>1.2
DI MCO-LGW MAR 0>0.1 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0.1>0.5
DI OAK-LGW MAR 0>0.2 APR 0>0.7 MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 SEP 0>0.7 OCT 0.1>0.7
DI ORD-LGW MAR 0>0.2 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>0.9
DI SEA-LGW MAR 0>0.1 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.6 AUG 0>0.6 SEP 0>0.6 OCT 0.1>0.6

DL ATL-AGS OCT 7>8
DL ATL-BNA OCT 12>11
DL ATL-BTR OCT 8>7
DL DAY-MSP JUL 4>3
DL DTW-MCO OCT 5>6
DL DTW-ORD OCT 8>7
DL DTW-PVD JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3 OCT 4>3
DL DTW-RSW OCT 1.3>3
DL MCO-RDU SEP 2>3 OCT 2>3

DY AUS-LGW APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
DY BOS-LGW MAR 0.8>0.5 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 0.8>0
DY DEN-LGW APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
DY FLL-LGW APR 0.3>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0 SEP 0.3>0 OCT 0.3>0
DY JFK-LGW MAR 1.8>1.4 APR 1.9>0 MAY 1.8>0 JUN 1.9>0 JUL 1.9>0 AUG 1.8>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.6>0
DY LAX-LGW MAR 1.0>0.7 APR 1.3>0 MAY 1.3>0 JUN 1.3>0 JUL 1.3>0 AUG 1.3>0 SEP 1.3>0 OCT 1.1>0
DY MCO-LGW MAR 0.3>0.2 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.4>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.4>0 SEP 0.4>0 OCT 0.4>0
DY OAK-LGW MAR 0.6>0.4 APR 0.7>0 MAY 0.7>0 JUN 0.7>0 JUL 0.7>0 AUG 0.7>0 SEP 0.7>0 OCT 0.6>0
DY ORD-LGW MAR 0.2>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 0.9>0
DY SEA-LGW MAR 0.5>0.4 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.5>0 JUN 0.6>0 JUL 0.6>0 AUG 0.6>0 SEP 0.6>0 OCT 0.5>0

F9 ATL-ISP APR 0.8>0.4 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2
F9 AUS-CLE APR 0.4>0.2 MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 AUS-IAD JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 AUS-SJC JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 CLE-SEA JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2
F9 CLT-PHL APR 0.9>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2
COS lost quite a bit
F9 COS-IAD APR 0.8>0.4 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2
F9 COS-LAX APR 0.6>0.1
F9 COS-MCO APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.6 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2
F9 COS-MSP JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 CVG-MIA APR 0.4>0.1
F9 CVG-TPA JUN 0.6>0.4
F9 DEN-AUS MAY 1.0>1.7 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2
F9 DEN-IAH JUL 1.4>1.0 AUG 0.6>0.4
F9 DEN-MKE APR 0.9>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2
F9 DEN-ORD MAY 1.7>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 0.7>0.4
F9 DEN-PDX JUN 1.9>1.4 AUG 0.7>0.5
F9 DEN-SAN MAY 2>1.3 JUN 1.9>1.4 JUL 2>1.5 AUG 0.7>0.5
F9 DEN-SEA JUL 3>1.5 AUG 0.9>0.6
F9 DEN-TPA JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2
F9 IAD-MCO APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.4 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.1
F9 IAD-ORD APR 0.8>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
F9 IAD-SAT MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
F9 IAH-LAS APR 0.4>0.1
F9 ISP-MCO APR 1.9>1.2 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 0.7>0.4
F9 ISP-MIA APR 0.6>0.2
F9 ISP-RSW APR 0.7>0.2
F9 ISP-SJU APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.4
F9 ISP-TPA JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 LAS-MKE APR 0.7>0.2
F9 LAS-OMA APR 0.3>0.2 MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
F9 LAS-SAT JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 LAX-MCO APR 1.0>0.2 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
F9 MCO-MSY MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 0.4>0.3
F9 MCO-PHL MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 1.1>0.7
F9 MIA-PHL MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 0.4>0.3
F9 MSY-SAT APR 0.6>0.4 MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 ONT-SAT JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 ORD-SFO APR 0.8>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
F9 RDU-SJU APR 0>0.2 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.1
F9 SAN-SAT APR 0.6>0.4 MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.1
F9 SAT-SJC APR 0.3>0.2 MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3

G4 ABE-MYR JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3
G4 ABE-PIE JUL 0.6>0.4 OCT 0.5>0.4
G4 ABQ-AUS JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 ATW-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 AUS-IND JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 AVL-EWR MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 AVL-FLL JUN 1.2>0.9 JUL 1.3>0.8 AUG 1.2>0.9 SEP 1.2>0.9
G4 AVL-PIE JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.6 AUG 0.9>0.5 SEP 0.9>0.6 OCT 0.8>0.5
G4 AVL-SFB JUL 0.9>0.5
G4 AZA-BIS MAR 0.7>0
G4 AZA-CID MAR 1.0>0
G4 AZA-DSM MAR 0.7>0
G4 AZA-FAR MAR 1.1>0
G4 AZA-FSD MAR 1.2>0 MAY 0.7>0 JUN 0.7>0
G4 AZA-MOT MAR 0.7>0
G4 AZA-PVU MAR 1.3>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.1>0 JUN 1.3>0 JUL 1.3>0 AUG 1.2>0 SEP 1.2>0 OCT 1.1>0
G4 AZA-RFD MAR 0.7>0
G4 BGR-PIE JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 BGR-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 BIL-IWA MAR 0>0.6 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
G4 BIS-IWA MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.5
G4 BLI-IWA MAR 0>0.6 APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
G4 BLI-LAX SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 BLI-OAK JUN 0.7>0.4 JUL 0.7>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4 OCT 0.6>0.4
G4 BLV-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 BLV-PGD JUN 0.6>0.4 JUL 0.7>0.5
G4 BLV-SFB MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.7>0.3 JUL 0.7>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 BLV-VPS MAY 0.7>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.4 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.7>0.4 SEP 0.6>0.4
G4 BOI-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 BZN-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 CHA-PIE JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 CID-IWA MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.5 OCT 0>0.4
G4 CLE-PGD JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 CLE-PIE JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 CLE-SAV JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.5>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 CVG-DEN JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 CVG-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 CVG-SAV MAY 0.6>0.4 JUN 1.0>0.4 JUL 1.0>0.4 AUG 0.9>0.5 SEP 0.9>0.4 OCT 0.8>0.5
G4 DSM-IWA MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.5
G4 DSM-PIE MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 ELM-SFB JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 EUG-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 EUG-LAS MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 EUG-OAK JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 EVV-SFB JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 EWR-SAV MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 FAR-IWA MAR 0>1.1 APR 0>0.7 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.5 OCT 0>0.4
G4 FLL-GSP MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 FLL-LEX JUN 0.6>0.4
G4 FLL-MEM JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 FLL-PBG JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 FLL-SYR JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 FNT-SFB MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.7>0.3 JUL 0.7>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 FSD-IWA MAR 0>1.2 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.6 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.6 AUG 0>0.5 SEP 0>0.6 OCT 0>0.5
G4 FWA-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.2 MAY 0>0.1 JUN 0>0.2 JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.1 SEP 0>0.2 OCT 0>0.1
G4 FWA-PIE JUN 0.6>0.4
G4 FWA-SFB JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 GFK-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 GRI-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 GRR-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
G4 GSP-PIE MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 GSP-SFB JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 GTF-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 HTS-PIE JUN 0.7>0.4 JUL 0.7>0.4
G4 HTS-SFB JUN 0.7>0.4 JUL 0.7>0.5
G4 IAG-PIE JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.5>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 IAG-SFB JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 ICT-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 IDA-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 IND-IWA MAR 0>0.3
G4 IND-JAX JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 IND-LAS MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.6>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
G4 IND-SAV JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 JAX-PIT JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-GPI MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 LAS-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
G4 LAS-MFE JUL 1.1>0.8
G4 LAS-MFR JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-OAK JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7
G4 LAS-PIA MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-PSC MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-SGF MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 LAS-SHV MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 LAX-SGF JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 LCK-MYR MAY 0.6>0.4 JUN 1.0>0.4 JUL 1.0>0.4 AUG 0.9>0.4 SEP 0.9>0.5 OCT 0.8>0.4
G4 LCK-SAV JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 LEX-PGD JUN 0.7>0.4 JUL 0.7>0.4
G4 LEX-PIE MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 LIT-SFB JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 MCI-IWA MAR 0>0.3
G4 MDT-PIE JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 MEM-PIE JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 MEM-SFB JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 MKE-IWA MAR 0>0.3
G4 MLI-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 MOT-IWA MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 MSO-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 MYR-PIT JUN 0.7>0.3 JUL 0.7>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 OAK-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
G4 OGD-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 OKC-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.5>0.3
G4 OKC-VPS JUL 0.7>0
G4 OMA-IWA MAR 0>0.3
G4 PGD-PIA MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 PGD-RFD JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 PGD-TYS MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3
G4 PIA-IWA MAR 0>0.6 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.4 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4
G4 PIA-PIE JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.5>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-IWA MAR 0>0.3
G4 PIE-RFD JUN 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-ROA JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 PIE-SGF MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.7>0.3 JUL 0.7>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-SWF JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.5>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 PIE-TYS JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.6
G4 PIE-USA JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.6 AUG 0.9>0.5 SEP 0.9>0.6 OCT 0.8>0.5
G4 PIT-SAV JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 PSC-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 PSM-SFB JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.5>0.3
G4 PVU-IWA MAR 0>1.3 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0
G4 RAP-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 RFD-IWA MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 RFD-SFB JUN 0.5>0.3
G4 ROA-SFB JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3
G4 SBN-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 SBN-SFB MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 SCK-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 SDF-IWA MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 SFB-SGF MAY 0.5>0.3 JUN 0.7>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 SFB-SJU MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 SFB-TRI JUL 0.5>0.3
G4 SFB-TUL JUN 0.6>0.4
G4 SFB-TYS JUN 1.6>1.0 JUL 1.6>1.0
G4 SFB-XNA MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.5>0.3
G4 SGF-IWA MAR 0>0.4 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3
G4 STC-IWA MAR 0>0.6 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3 SEP 0>0.3 OCT 0>0.3

HA HNL-PPT OCT 0.1>0.3

HU SJC-PEK APR 0.7>0.6 MAY 0.7>0.5

KS AKN-ANC MAR 1.0>2 APR 1.0>2
KS AKN-DLG MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0
KS ANC-DLG MAR 1.7>3 APR 1.7>3

*LF BWI-MCN APR 0>1.7 MAY 0>1.7 JUN 0>1.7 JUL 0>1.7 AUG 0>1.7

LY JFK-TLV MAY 3>1.8

MU ORD-PVG APR 0.7>0.4 MAY 0.7>0.4 JUN 0.7>0.4 JUL 0.7>0.4 AUG 0.7>0.5 SEP 0.7>0.4 OCT 0.7>0.5

MW HNL-JHM SEP 0.8>8 OCT 0>8
MW HNL-MKK SEP 1.4>15 OCT 0>15
MW HNL-OGG SEP 0.3>3 OCT 0>3
MW HNM-OGG SEP 0.2>2 OCT 0>2
MW IPL-LAX MAY 0>4 JUN 0>4 JUL 0>4 AUG 0>4 SEP 0>4 OCT 0>4
MW JHM-KOA SEP 0.2>2 OCT 0>2
MW JHM-MKK OCT 0>0.7
MW KOA-OGG SEP 1.4>14 OCT 0>14
MW MKK-OGG SEP 1.0>10 OCT 0>10
MW MUE-OGG SEP 0.2>2 OCT 0>2

P1 MBL-MDW MAY 0.1>1.0

*PY SFB-AUA APR 0.1>0 MAY 0.2>0 JUN 0.1>0 JUL 0.2>0 AUG 0.1>0 SEP 0.1>0 OCT 0.2>0

SY BOS-MSP AUG 1.8>3
SY DFW-CUN AUG 1.7>1.9
SY JFK-MSP AUG 1.8>3
SY LAX-MSP AUG 1.8>3
SY MSP-SEA AUG 1.8>3

UA DEN-BNA JUN 3>4
UA DEN-DRO JUN 7>8
UA DEN-MTJ JUN 3>4
UA EWR-BTV JUN 6>5
UA EWR-DFW JUN 6>5
UA EWR-GSO JUN 4>5
UA EWR-MIA JUL 3>4
UA EWR-SAV JUN 3>4
UA EWR-SYR JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4
UA IAD-BNA JUL 2>3
UA IAD-DAY MAY 1.0>2
UA IAD-GSO MAY 2>3 JUN 2>1.4 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 3>1.0 SEP 3>1.0 OCT 3>1.0
I wonder if these big cuts are misfiles. somebody check ua.com
*UA IAD-GSP JUN 4>1.4 JUL 4>1.0 AUG 4>1.0 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0
UA IAD-TYS MAY 2>3
UA IAH-STT JUN 0.8>0.0 JUL 1.0>0
UA ORD-ATW JUN 4>5 JUL 3>5 AUG 4>6 SEP 4>6 OCT 4>6
UA ORD-BNA JUL 6>7 AUG 7>8 SEP 7>8 OCT 7>8
UA ORD-BTV JUN 3>4 JUL 2>5 AUG 3>5
UA ORD-CAE JUL 1.0>1.9 AUG 1.0>1.9 SEP 1.0>1.8 OCT 1.0>1.9
UA ORD-CAK MAY 4>5
UA ORD-CID JUN 4>5 JUL 3>5 AUG 4>5
UA ORD-DAY JUN 5>7 JUL 4>7 AUG 4>7 SEP 4>7 OCT 4>7
UA ORD-IND JUL 9>8
UA ORD-LNK JUN 4>3 JUL 4>1.7 AUG 4>1.5 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0
UA ORD-PIA JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3 SEP 4>2 OCT 4>2
UA ORD-XNA JUN 4>3 JUL 4>1.7 AUG 4>1.7 SEP 4>1.7 OCT 4>1.7
UA SFO-LAX JUN 14>15 JUL 14>15 AUG 14>15 SEP 14>15 OCT 14>15
UA SFO-MRY JUN 2>3
UA SFO-RDD JUN 3>4

*VC AUS-LIT MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9
*VC AUS-TUL MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9

VVC MIA-MDE MAR 0.2>0.4 APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.5 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8 SEP 0>0.4 OCT 0>0.4

Y4 DEN-MEX APR 0.9>0.1 MAY 0.8>0.1 JUN 0.9>0.2 JUL 0.8>0.1 AUG 0.9>0.1 SEP 0.9>0.2 OCT 0.8>0.1
Y4 JFK-MEX MAR 1.5>1.2 APR 1.1>0.8 MAY 1.2>0.8 JUN 1.2>0.9 JUL 1.1>0.8 AUG 1.2>0.9 SEP 1.1>0.9 OCT 1.2>0.8
Y4 LAX-AGU MAR 0.4>0.3 APR 0.4>0.3 MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.4>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.5>0.3
Y4 LAX-MEX MAR 1.7>1.6 APR 1.7>1.3 MAY 1.7>1.3 JUN 1.7>1.3 JUL 1.7>1.3 AUG 1.7>1.3 SEP 1.7>1.3 OCT 1.7>1.3
Y4 LAX-MLM MAR 0.8>0.6 APR 0.7>0.4 MAY 0.7>0.4 JUN 0.7>0.5 JUL 0.7>0.4 AUG 0.7>0.5 SEP 0.7>0.4 OCT 0.7>0.4
Y4 LAX-OAX APR 0.3>0.1 MAY 0.3>0.1 JUN 0.3>0.2 JUL 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.3>0.1 SEP 0.3>0.2 OCT 0.3>0.1
Y4 MKE-GDL APR 0.3>0.1 MAY 0.3>0.1 JUN 0.3>0.2 JUL 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.3>0.2 SEP 0.3>0.1 OCT 0.3>0.1
Y4 ONT-GDL MAR 1.0>0.8 APR 1.0>0.9 MAY 1.0>0.8 JUN 1.0>0.9 JUL 1.0>0.9 AUG 1.0>0.8 SEP 1.0>0.9 OCT 1.0>0.8
Y4 ORD-MEX APR 1.0>0.9 MAY 1.0>0.8 JUN 1.0>0.9 JUL 1.0>0.8 AUG 1.0>0.9 SEP 1.0>0.9 OCT 1.0>0.8
Y4 ORD-MTY APR 0.3>0.1 MAY 0.3>0.1 JUN 0.3>0.2 JUL 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.3>0.2 SEP 0.3>0.1 OCT 0.3>0.1
Y4 SFO-MEX APR 0.4>0.3 MAY 0.4>0.3 JUN 0.5>0.3 JUL 0.4>0.3 AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:23 pm

Just went to 3E website. You can now book $79 one way ATL-STL with stop in MKL! a great opportunity for airline enthusiasts who have not been on the Cessna Caravan!
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:47 pm

I think some (if not all) of the G4 changes are misfiles/errors, just checking CVG, none of those changes are taking place: SAV is still daily, IWA was already loaded, and DEN is still 3x/week
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:12 pm

I did a dummy booking for IAD -GSP in July on UA and it still shows four nonstop flights, so I'm thinking that it's a misfile.
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:25 pm

This might be a dumb question, but why does G4 have both IWA and AZA for Phoenix-Mesa?
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:32 pm

RJNUT wrote:
Just went to 3E website. You can now book $79 one way ATL-STL with stop in MKL! a great opportunity for airline enthusiasts who have not been on the Cessna Caravan!


I've been on Air Choice One twice: ORD-DEC-STL in 2012, and MSP-MCW-BRL-STL in 2016.

I was really impressed both times I flew them with how reliable they were, and how friendly their employees were. The gate agent at MSP was ex-Great Lakes ("Great Mistakes?"), and she said it was a relief to be working for an airline that was so dependable.

If you enjoy logging new airlines or airports, I'd highly recommend flying with Air Choice One.
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:33 pm

The UA IAD-GSP is still at 4x in June-October. It's a misfile.
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:33 pm

An article appeared on the ch-aviation site last month regarding Norwegian's switch from using DY - DI flight code. I've posted the link to said article below, although it doesn't give an explanation.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... k-tatl-ops

Mods please delete if of no use etc to the thread.

Many thanks

Ben
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:41 pm

enilria wrote:
LY JFK-TLV MAY 3>1.8

Could this be a misfile because that would be a large drop on LY's flagship route?
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:48 pm

LF BWI-MCN is just an extension of service they are currentky providing.
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:02 pm

ericm2031 wrote:
This might be a dumb question, but why does G4 have both IWA and AZA for Phoenix-Mesa?


Looks like they maybe misfiled/corrected. While AZA is the official IATA code, IWA is the FAA identifier and has historically been what the airlines use.
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:09 pm

cvgComair wrote:
I think some (if not all) of the G4 changes are misfiles/errors, just checking CVG, none of those changes are taking place: SAV is still daily, IWA was already loaded, and DEN is still 3x/week

Probably because G4 hasn’t edited their schedule yet. Some of those changes are for Sept/Oct so it’s clear that all the changes aren’t visible yet... I️ remember this kind of change happened last year. Some of those have already been loaded though
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:13 pm

I know this isn't covered in this thread. Does anyone know if SY will return to STS at the end of the summer (August-ish) this year?
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:17 pm

Once again, thanks for the updates Enilria
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:34 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
I think some (if not all) of the G4 changes are misfiles/errors, just checking CVG, none of those changes are taking place: SAV is still daily, IWA was already loaded, and DEN is still 3x/week

Probably because G4 hasn’t edited their schedule yet. Some of those changes are for Sept/Oct so it’s clear that all the changes aren’t visible yet... I️ remember this kind of change happened last year. Some of those have already been loaded though

I really think we pay too much attention to the G4 changes and try to make sense of them. There are numerous "reductions" in this schedule release that are not present in the visible schedule on their website. They are notorious to do this, and it would be nice if someone could explain why. Maybe it has something to do with equipment changes?

Thanks as always enilria!
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:34 pm

VC AUS-LIT MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9

VC AUS-TUL MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9

The word on their BKG service last year was that they were unreliable due to cancellations.
 
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Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:50 pm

AA MIA-SJU JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6

1 of the 6 MIA-SJU flights will be upgaged to 763 in May 2018. 2 of the 6 MIA-SJU flights will be upgaged to 763 in June 2018.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:53 pm

TYSflyer wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
I think some (if not all) of the G4 changes are misfiles/errors, just checking CVG, none of those changes are taking place: SAV is still daily, IWA was already loaded, and DEN is still 3x/week

Probably because G4 hasn’t edited their schedule yet. Some of those changes are for Sept/Oct so it’s clear that all the changes aren’t visible yet... I️ remember this kind of change happened last year. Some of those have already been loaded though

I really think we pay too much attention to the G4 changes and try to make sense of them. There are numerous "reductions" in this schedule release that are not present in the visible schedule on their website. They are notorious to do this, and it would be nice if someone could explain why. Maybe it has something to do with equipment changes?

Thanks as always enilria!


I think I explained it pretty clearly in my previous post, this is how G4 works on their schedule. You will see reductions in the OAG thread first, and then they update their changes onto their website sometime within the next month. Last October if you look at the OAG thread from Oct 22nd there was a sizeable reduction, and exactly a month later on Nov 22nd they updated the changes onto their website, with the subsequent reductions...

G4 is losing 7 planes from YE17 to YE18, so inevitably there will be some reductions somewhere.....

http://ir.allegiantair.com/phoenix.zhtm ... ID=2329528
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:54 pm

UA IAD-BNA JUL 2>3

This corrects the misfile from last week. I would imagine GSO and GSP are the same way. Likely equipment code errors as they swap regional partners and aircraft.
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 5:56 pm

enilria wrote:
UA ORD-LNK JUN 4>3 JUL 4>1.7 AUG 4>1.5 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0


I'd be shocked if these cuts actually stick. That's a severe reduction in a monopoly market, especially in Sept/Oct when the college sports season is in full swing.
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:22 pm

Midwestindy wrote:
TYSflyer wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
Probably because G4 hasn’t edited their schedule yet. Some of those changes are for Sept/Oct so it’s clear that all the changes aren’t visible yet... I️ remember this kind of change happened last year. Some of those have already been loaded though

I really think we pay too much attention to the G4 changes and try to make sense of them. There are numerous "reductions" in this schedule release that are not present in the visible schedule on their website. They are notorious to do this, and it would be nice if someone could explain why. Maybe it has something to do with equipment changes?

Thanks as always enilria!


I think I explained it pretty clearly in my previous post, this is how G4 works on their schedule. You will see reductions in the OAG thread first, and then they update their changes onto their website sometime within the next month. Last October if you look at the OAG thread from Oct 22nd there was a sizeable reduction, and exactly a month later on Nov 22nd they updated the changes onto their website, with the subsequent reductions...

G4 is losing 7 planes from YE17 to YE18, so inevitably there will be some reductions somewhere.....

http://ir.allegiantair.com/phoenix.zhtm ... ID=2329528

I read your attempt at explaining it which makes some sense but the part that doesn't make sense is why do markets show reductions in the viewable schedule that are not there. If they are going to knowingly reduce their schedule why leave these flights for sale now? It will only create a headache for the travelers and themselves. SAV-CVG is still daily on their website and TYS-SFB is still 1.6 for example. Also I don't foresee these getting reduced which is the point you're trying to make I think. I obviously follow TYS fairly closely, and they frequently show reductions which never come to fruition. We will probably just have to remember this conversation and wait until they update their schedule to see what transpires.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:42 pm

jetblastdubai wrote:
enilria wrote:
UA ORD-LNK JUN 4>3 JUL 4>1.7 AUG 4>1.5 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0


I'd be shocked if these cuts actually stick. That's a severe reduction in a monopoly market, especially in Sept/Oct when the college sports season is in full swing.


UA website shows 4 still I wonder if that is a misfile? Otherwise that is a route that is begging AA to start it
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:02 pm

CrawleyBen wrote:
An article appeared on the ch-aviation site last month regarding Norwegian's switch from using DY - DI flight code. I've posted the link to said article below, although it doesn't give an explanation.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news ... k-tatl-ops

Mods please delete if of no use etc to the thread.

Many thanks

Ben

It's got to be Brexit related as it's just the UK flights.
TYSflyer wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:
TYSflyer wrote:
I really think we pay too much attention to the G4 changes and try to make sense of them. There are numerous "reductions" in this schedule release that are not present in the visible schedule on their website. They are notorious to do this, and it would be nice if someone could explain why. Maybe it has something to do with equipment changes?

Thanks as always enilria!


I think I explained it pretty clearly in my previous post, this is how G4 works on their schedule. You will see reductions in the OAG thread first, and then they update their changes onto their website sometime within the next month. Last October if you look at the OAG thread from Oct 22nd there was a sizeable reduction, and exactly a month later on Nov 22nd they updated the changes onto their website, with the subsequent reductions...

G4 is losing 7 planes from YE17 to YE18, so inevitably there will be some reductions somewhere.....

http://ir.allegiantair.com/phoenix.zhtm ... ID=2329528

I read your attempt at explaining it which makes some sense but the part that doesn't make sense is why do markets show reductions in the viewable schedule that are not there. If they are going to knowingly reduce their schedule why leave these flights for sale now? It will only create a headache for the travelers and themselves. SAV-CVG is still daily on their website and TYS-SFB is still 1.6 for example. Also I don't foresee these getting reduced which is the point you're trying to make I think. I obviously follow TYS fairly closely, and they frequently show reductions which never come to fruition. We will probably just have to remember this conversation and wait until they update their schedule to see what transpires.

When everybody started questioning the G4 filings I stopped reading them, I just post as is. So, I can't give an opinion.

I didn't see anything about a fleet cut at that link.
Maverick623 wrote:
ericm2031 wrote:
This might be a dumb question, but why does G4 have both IWA and AZA for Phoenix-Mesa?


Looks like they maybe misfiled/corrected. While AZA is the official IATA code, IWA is the FAA identifier and has historically been what the airlines use.

Wow, that's the ultimate misfile!
FlyHossD wrote:
Once again, thanks for the updates Enilria

:)
wedgetail737 wrote:
I know this isn't covered in this thread. Does anyone know if SY will return to STS at the end of the summer (August-ish) this year?

Rumor is no, but nothing solid I know of.
N292UX wrote:
The UA IAD-GSP is still at 4x in June-October. It's a misfile.

Thanks to you guys for checking. I figured.
WaywardMemphian wrote:
VC AUS-LIT MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9

VC AUS-TUL MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.9 SEP 0>0.8 OCT 0>0.9

The word on their BKG service last year was that they were unreliable due to cancellations.

Now BKG has F9. Nice step up.

Their network is much too spread out to be reliable.
CIDFlyer wrote:
jetblastdubai wrote:
enilria wrote:
UA ORD-LNK JUN 4>3 JUL 4>1.7 AUG 4>1.5 SEP 4>1.0 OCT 4>1.0


I'd be shocked if these cuts actually stick. That's a severe reduction in a monopoly market, especially in Sept/Oct when the college sports season is in full swing.


UA website shows 4 still I wonder if that is a misfile? Otherwise that is a route that is begging AA to start it

Judging from the GSP example it appears UA filed some of their RJs with invalid equipment codes. Everybody seems to do this periodically. It happens because internally they probably have a different CR7 or CRJ equipment code for each operator (i.e. CR4, CRX, CRL, etc) so they can run the auto-route function to connect up the legs into lines of flight. Same happens with unique seating configs that have internal codes, like 77R might be 777-200LR with a particularly config for a region. They are supposed to take the schedule from the scheduling software and run some code that corrects these types to valid OAG equipment codes. It seems like more and more this step is forgotten and then OAG rejects the invalid types. It has revenue implications if they don't notice it immediately. Clearly nobody is getting fired for it as it keeps happening, but I'm sure if it goes even a day they can see the bookings drop. They are probably all using the Sabre scheduling software suite, so Sabre should really integrate this correction rather than having schedulers run kludge software patches.

KInd of a geeky funny story. I don't remember the airline, but the airlines usually go out of the way to make sure their internal equipment codes are not valid to OAG. Because if it wasn't rejected they might never notice they were filed with an invalid equipment type. Trouble is that the airlines don't change those internal codes ever and OAG often adds new variant codes. So, there was an airline flying I think A330-300 and internally they had like 3 seating configs. They were using 333 for the original, the added ones were like 345 because that version had 45 premium seats I think, and maybe 348 for 48 premium seats. My memory is that OAG made the 345 code valid for the A340-500 and the airline forgot to convert the internal codes in an OAG submission. The 348 codes were rejected and fixed, but for like a month they were showing A340 equipment on routes when they had no A340s. This was like 2001.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:19 pm

enilria wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:

I think I explained it pretty clearly in my previous post, this is how G4 works on their schedule. You will see reductions in the OAG thread first, and then they update their changes onto their website sometime within the next month. Last October if you look at the OAG thread from Oct 22nd there was a sizeable reduction, and exactly a month later on Nov 22nd they updated the changes onto their website, with the subsequent reductions...

G4 is losing 7 planes from YE17 to YE18, so inevitably there will be some reductions somewhere.....

http://ir.allegiantair.com/phoenix.zhtm ... ID=2329528


I didn't see anything about a fleet cut at that link.

About 1/4 of the way down, underneath the CAPEX guidance. It says "Aircraft fleet plan by end of period"

Allegiant is pulling the remaining MDs from the fleet in Q4 this year, even with aircraft arrivals they will be down by 7 aircraft from YE17. Aircraft arrivals during 2019 will return them to 100 aircraft by YE19.

Increased utilization of the Airbus fleet compared to the MDs will minimize schedule reductions during the period that the fleet is smaller.
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:50 pm

RJNUT wrote:
Just went to 3E website. You can now book $79 one way ATL-STL with stop in MKL! a great opportunity for airline enthusiasts who have not been on the Cessna Caravan!


MKL has had EAS service failures to MEM, STL, and BNA. If you want to fly this route you better hurry. An airport 80 miles from MEM doesn't need airline service The average pax per day when they flew to BNA was <4 per flight.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:41 pm

enilria wrote:

*BW JFK-SVD APR 0>0.1 MAY 0>0.2 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.2 SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1



This is the first flight to the new airport (Argyle International) from the USA right? Would like to see AA or B6 jump in at some point.
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Sun Feb 11, 2018 11:09 pm

AAvgeek744 wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
Just went to 3E website. You can now book $79 one way ATL-STL with stop in MKL! a great opportunity for airline enthusiasts who have not been on the Cessna Caravan!


MKL has had EAS service failures to MEM, STL, and BNA. If you want to fly this route you better hurry. An airport 80 miles from MEM doesn't need airline service The average pax per day when they flew to BNA was <4 per flight.


Its better than that now.

The number of passengers for flights have increased at McKellar-Sipes in recent years and averages 15 passengers a day — more than the 10-a-day threshold required by the government funded Essential Air Services program.

Averages 15 a day 5/per flight.

There remains a strong possibility Air Choice One will add a third destination flight from Jackson to the Florida Gulf Coast before the end of year.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/lo ... 078322001/
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:45 am

I have to wonder why Volaris is giving up on one of its JFK-MEX frequencies, or is that nighttime flight being shifted to Volaris Costa Rica on select days? (The second frequency was garnered in the AM/DL divestiture.) As for Norwegian, they're preparing for Brexit and thus the B789s with G- registrations will be segregated from other planes to operate to the USA, EZE, and SIN.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:46 am

FlyHossD wrote:
Once again, thanks for the updates Enilria


I wholeheartedly agree, you provide a great service to this forum and we users appreciate your work every week.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:14 am

Looking closely at G4, it appears that they zeroed all AZA flights and reloaded them as IWA. Not sure if that is a "misfile" or a deliberate "refile." Does OAG require one code or the other?
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:48 am

AAvgeek744 wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
Just went to 3E website. You can now book $79 one way ATL-STL with stop in MKL! a great opportunity for airline enthusiasts who have not been on the Cessna Caravan!


MKL has had EAS service failures to MEM, STL, and BNA. If you want to fly this route you better hurry. An airport 80 miles from MEM doesn't need airline service The average pax per day when they flew to BNA was <4 per flight.

these oddball airlines I rarely book more than 2 months out even if it means losing out on great deal. Frontier and Spirit come to mind and also these little commuters! We should be grateful to Enilria as he gives us somewhat of a jump on the general public on special deals, in a sense, by listing these upcoming loads!
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:06 am

FATFlyer wrote:
enilria wrote:
Midwestindy wrote:

I think I explained it pretty clearly in my previous post, this is how G4 works on their schedule. You will see reductions in the OAG thread first, and then they update their changes onto their website sometime within the next month. Last October if you look at the OAG thread from Oct 22nd there was a sizeable reduction, and exactly a month later on Nov 22nd they updated the changes onto their website, with the subsequent reductions...

G4 is losing 7 planes from YE17 to YE18, so inevitably there will be some reductions somewhere.....

http://ir.allegiantair.com/phoenix.zhtm ... ID=2329528


I didn't see anything about a fleet cut at that link.

About 1/4 of the way down, underneath the CAPEX guidance. It says "Aircraft fleet plan by end of period"

Allegiant is pulling the remaining MDs from the fleet in Q4 this year, even with aircraft arrivals they will be down by 7 aircraft from YE17. Aircraft arrivals during 2019 will return them to 100 aircraft by YE19.

Increased utilization of the Airbus fleet compared to the MDs will minimize schedule reductions during the period that the fleet is smaller.

Ok. Figured that was the reason. Interesting to see UA expanding quickly and G4 shrinking.
adamh8297 wrote:
enilria wrote:

*BW JFK-SVD APR 0>0.1 MAY 0>0.2 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.1 AUG 0>0.2 SEP 0>0.1 OCT 0>0.1



This is the first flight to the new airport (Argyle International) from the USA right? Would like to see AA or B6 jump in at some point.

I looked up the code and it said an "unused military base in St. Vincent". Lol
Jshank83 wrote:
AAvgeek744 wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
Just went to 3E website. You can now book $79 one way ATL-STL with stop in MKL! a great opportunity for airline enthusiasts who have not been on the Cessna Caravan!


MKL has had EAS service failures to MEM, STL, and BNA. If you want to fly this route you better hurry. An airport 80 miles from MEM doesn't need airline service The average pax per day when they flew to BNA was <4 per flight.


Its better than that now.

The number of passengers for flights have increased at McKellar-Sipes in recent years and averages 15 passengers a day — more than the 10-a-day threshold required by the government funded Essential Air Services program.

Averages 15 a day 5/per flight.

There remains a strong possibility Air Choice One will add a third destination flight from Jackson to the Florida Gulf Coast before the end of year.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/lo ... 078322001/

I think the demise of MEM as a hub helped them retain a little more traffic.
kbmiflyer wrote:
FlyHossD wrote:
Once again, thanks for the updates Enilria


I wholeheartedly agree, you provide a great service to this forum and we users appreciate your work every week.

Aww :)
RJNUT wrote:
AAvgeek744 wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
Just went to 3E website. You can now book $79 one way ATL-STL with stop in MKL! a great opportunity for airline enthusiasts who have not been on the Cessna Caravan!


MKL has had EAS service failures to MEM, STL, and BNA. If you want to fly this route you better hurry. An airport 80 miles from MEM doesn't need airline service The average pax per day when they flew to BNA was <4 per flight.

these oddball airlines I rarely book more than 2 months out even if it means losing out on great deal. Frontier and Spirit come to mind and also these little commuters! We should be grateful to Enilria as he gives us somewhat of a jump on the general public on special deals, in a sense, by listing these upcoming loads!

I don't my best. Thanks :)
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:29 am

I'm going to go chug a .75 of Jack and create Frontier's next schedule.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:48 am

AZA changes to IWA? G4. It's same city in Mesa, AZ.

Q
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:09 am

enilria wrote:
FATFlyer wrote:
enilria wrote:



Its better than that now.

The number of passengers for flights have increased at McKellar-Sipes in recent years and averages 15 passengers a day — more than the 10-a-day threshold required by the government funded Essential Air Services program.

Averages 15 a day 5/per flight.

There remains a strong possibility Air Choice One will add a third destination flight from Jackson to the Florida Gulf Coast before the end of year.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/lo ... 078322001/

I think the demise of MEM as a hub helped them retain a little more traffic.
AAvgeek744 wrote:

MKL has had EAS service failures to MEM, STL, and BNA. If you want to fly this route you better hurry. An airport 80 miles from MEM doesn't need airline service The average pax per day when they flew to BNA was <4 per flight.

these oddball airlines I rarely book more than 2 months out even if it means losing out on great deal. Frontier and Spirit come to mind and also these little commuters! We should be grateful to Enilria as he gives us somewhat of a jump on the general public on special deals, in a sense, by listing these upcoming loads!

I don't my best. Thanks :)


I think Air Choice One, Skywest, and Boutique Air's takeover of EAS contracts previously held by SeaPort and Great Lakes will boost passenger numbers at many small cities over the next few years, because Air Choice One, Skywest, and Boutique Air are reliable airlines, unlike the airlines they are replacing.

Even though MKL isn't far from MEM, MEM is on the opposite side of the city of Memphis from MKL, which means people driving from MKL to MEM have to allow lots of extra time in case there's a bad accident on I-240. When MKL was served by SeaPort, people knew there was a good chance their flight would cancel or be severely delayed because SeaPort was so unreliable, so they chose to risk the drive to MEM and hope for the best. Now that MKL is served by the far more reliable Air Choice One, people know their flight will operate on schedule. I think many people will switch back to flying out of MKL for this reason.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:53 pm

Saw the reduction of ISP-MCO on F9. Anyone surprised? Not me!
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:30 pm

Well this thread certainly takes the cake for the most chatter about Jackson TN I've ever seen! Wish them the best and hope the ATL route works out.
 
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:38 pm

WA707atMSP wrote:
enilria wrote:
FATFlyer wrote:
I think the demise of MEM as a hub helped them retain a little more traffic.

these oddball airlines I rarely book more than 2 months out even if it means losing out on great deal. Frontier and Spirit come to mind and also these little commuters! We should be grateful to Enilria as he gives us somewhat of a jump on the general public on special deals, in a sense, by listing these upcoming loads!

I don't my best. Thanks :)


I think Air Choice One, Skywest, and Boutique Air's takeover of EAS contracts previously held by SeaPort and Great Lakes will boost passenger numbers at many small cities over the next few years, because Air Choice One, Skywest, and Boutique Air are reliable airlines, unlike the airlines they are replacing.

Even though MKL isn't far from MEM, MEM is on the opposite side of the city of Memphis from MKL, which means people driving from MKL to MEM have to allow lots of extra time in case there's a bad accident on I-240. When MKL was served by SeaPort, people knew there was a good chance their flight would cancel or be severely delayed because SeaPort was so unreliable, so they chose to risk the drive to MEM and hope for the best. Now that MKL is served by the far more reliable Air Choice One, people know their flight will operate on schedule. I think many people will switch back to flying out of MKL for this reason.


While I agree generally with several of your points, the recent completion of 269/385 and reconfiguration of the 40/240/Sam Cooper interchange have removed much of the uncertainty from the drive from Jackson and other points east to MEM.
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Re: OAG Changes 2/11/2018:DY>DI Certificate Shift; F9; ; G4

Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:53 pm

Frontier also announced ABQ-AUS 3 times/week and ABQ-MCO once daily, both effective Apr 9. AUS is very strange as we currently have Allegiant serving ABQ-AUS on Thur and Sun, Southwest does it on Fri and Sun, now Frontier will do it on Mon, Wed, and Sat. Among the three carriers, only Tuesdays aren't covered.

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