AApilot2b wrote:berari wrote:Eight minutes in the air: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... w#106bffb2
Can't wait to read the sensationalized news articles that will come out of Nigerian papers tomorrow.
Nigerian papers? I’m sure the media will sensationalize it everywhere.... CNN, MSNBC, etc... Near death apocalyptic moment! Airplanes unsafe for travel! Airlines flying junkers! Here come the headlines!
berari wrote:Eight minutes in the air: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... w#106bffb2
Can't wait to read the sensationalized news articles that will come out of Nigerian papers tomorrow.
jbs2886 wrote:He is referring to some prior press regarding Delta that was sensationalized saying Delta was using old, crappy planes because they didn't like Africa (basically).
ual763 wrote:I know the United 777 that lost it's cowling in HNL today uses the PW4000s. But, doesn't the Delta A330-200 use them also?
berari wrote:jbs2886 wrote:He is referring to some prior press regarding Delta that was sensationalized saying Delta was using old, crappy planes because they didn't like Africa (basically).
Let's not put words in my mouth. This is not what I meant. I'm referring to this very incident.
The first tweet I came across this incident openly stated that the DL flight had crashed, quoting someone that was on the flight and was on their way to the hospital. Tweet has since been removed. Nigerian and other African papers report such incidents with so much passion, with reference to god and prayers and such with interesting touch.
travaz wrote:From an Airline perspective this is probably the worse place to have an issue like this. You have no resources and very few options. I am not referring to the fact of the specific location just that it is one of the farthest destinations that you service creating a logistics nightmare. Kudo's to DL for launching a rescue flight already.
ual763 wrote:[photoid][/photoid]travaz wrote:From an Airline perspective this is probably the worse place to have an issue like this. You have no resources and very few options. I am not referring to the fact of the specific location just that it is one of the farthest destinations that you service creating a logistics nightmare. Kudo's to DL for launching a rescue flight already.
To add on this, I cannot speak for Delta, but I know most airline crews have to have a private security detail escort them to/from the hotel in Lagos and at certain other African airports, such as Nairobi. In fact, the airline I'm referencing, also does not let the crews leave the hotel during the layover here. I would imagine Delta hired a local security detail to guard the aircraft as well to protect it from vandalism.
jbmitt wrote:It looks like DL 9950 is the rescue flight. It appears that it is going DTW-ATL-LOS. I'm always interested in the crews, mechanics, and other staff that they arrange on short notice and dispatch for the recovery flight.
hayzel777 wrote:jbmitt wrote:It looks like DL 9950 is the rescue flight. It appears that it is going DTW-ATL-LOS. I'm always interested in the crews, mechanics, and other staff that they arrange on short notice and dispatch for the recovery flight.
Most airlines have a "go team" of engineers that are basically dispatched if needed at outstations.
Crew and Pilots can be pulled out of reserve. You just need to find a plane for them to operate.
berari wrote:hayzel777 wrote:jbmitt wrote:It looks like DL 9950 is the rescue flight. It appears that it is going DTW-ATL-LOS. I'm always interested in the crews, mechanics, and other staff that they arrange on short notice and dispatch for the recovery flight.
Most airlines have a "go team" of engineers that are basically dispatched if needed at outstations.
Crew and Pilots can be pulled out of reserve. You just need to find a plane for them to operate.
How does it work in terms of visas and arrangements when it comes to flying on short notice to, say, Nigeria?
Also, couldn't DL9950 fly DTW-LOS?
berari wrote:hayzel777 wrote:jbmitt wrote:It looks like DL 9950 is the rescue flight. It appears that it is going DTW-ATL-LOS. I'm always interested in the crews, mechanics, and other staff that they arrange on short notice and dispatch for the recovery flight.
Most airlines have a "go team" of engineers that are basically dispatched if needed at outstations.
Crew and Pilots can be pulled out of reserve. You just need to find a plane for them to operate.
How does it work in terms of visas and arrangements when it comes to flying on short notice to, say, Nigeria?
Also, couldn't DL9950 fly DTW-LOS?
ual763 wrote:With the immediate return back to the airport, and the most definitely overweight landing, anyone know if the brakes caught fire, or any burst tires upon landing?
Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
berari wrote:hayzel777 wrote:jbmitt wrote:It looks like DL 9950 is the rescue flight. It appears that it is going DTW-ATL-LOS. I'm always interested in the crews, mechanics, and other staff that they arrange on short notice and dispatch for the recovery flight.
Most airlines have a "go team" of engineers that are basically dispatched if needed at outstations.
Crew and Pilots can be pulled out of reserve. You just need to find a plane for them to operate.
How does it work in terms of visas and arrangements when it comes to flying on short notice to, say, Nigeria?
Also, couldn't DL9950 fly DTW-LOS?
GalaxyFlyer wrote:Must be serious, they went back to Lagos in some haste. Not many would do that! Were the injured among the passengers or some people just passing by on the airport? It’s pretty common sight-people walking across the taxiways.
GF
mapletux wrote:Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
The Nigerian authorities are unhappy that Delta did not report the incident to them.
http://www.woleshadare.net/aib-impounds ... -incident/
mapletux wrote:Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
The Nigerian authorities are unhappy that Delta did not report the incident to them.
http://www.woleshadare.net/aib-impounds ... -incident/
mapletux wrote:Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
The Nigerian authorities are unhappy that Delta did not report the incident to them.
http://www.woleshadare.net/aib-impounds ... -incident/
OKCDCA wrote:mapletux wrote:Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
The Nigerian authorities are unhappy that Delta did not report the incident to them.
http://www.woleshadare.net/aib-impounds ... -incident/
Wouldn't be surprised if Delta ends up having to pay some sort of "ransom" to get the plane back given the amount of corruption which occurs over there.
hayzel777 wrote:According to the news, a "strong team" from DL HQ met with AIB in Nigeria today. Miss Shannon Masters(her position is reportedly Manager, Air Safety Investigations) and the local station manager apologized to Nigeria for failing to inform them of the incident, saying it was not intentional.
http://www.woleshadare.net/sorry-delta- ... -incident/
I hope the plane remains safe after this: http://www.woleshadare.net/aircraft-bur ... -vehicles/
A bunch of robbers and thieves operating within the perimeter of LOS airport and attempted to burglarize a CRJ that was sitting on the tarmac.
louA340 wrote:flyinTLow wrote:LOS is not as bad as you all are making it out to be. Yes, there can be a security problem in the city, but the airport is among the better ones in Africa with a solid terminal and a lot of traffic with many non-African airlines. I know LH has a station mechanic there, so I am pretty sure other airlines (AF, EK, etc.) will have someone as well who can take care of most things. Now if you need to switch an engine, that is a whole different topic. Then you need a team as well as equipment to take care of that.berari wrote:
mapletux wrote:Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
The Nigerian authorities are unhappy that Delta did not report the incident to them.
http://www.woleshadare.net/aib-impounds ... -incident/
travaz wrote:From an Airline perspective this is probably the worse place to have an issue like this. You have no resources and very few options. I am not referring to the fact of the specific location just that it is one of the farthest destinations that you service creating a logistics nightmare. Kudo's to DL for launching a rescue flight already.
Phosphorus wrote:mapletux wrote:Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
The Nigerian authorities are unhappy that Delta did not report the incident to them.
http://www.woleshadare.net/aib-impounds ... -incident/
Pardon for ignorance, but as per the article, the Mayday was announced, and the airport was notified of the emergency landing; emergency response was mounted -- so the authorities were well aware.
Was that insufficient?
Did they expect a diplomatic courier, delivering them a message of existence of an accident plane, stranded within their own country?
tb727 wrote:I think they used the email address of that Nigerian prince to tell them about it.
OKCDCA wrote:Wouldn't be surprised if Delta ends up having to pay some sort of "ransom" to get the plane back given the amount of corruption which occurs over there.
hayzel777 wrote:Terrible...but I guess that is part of the risk when you fly into these areas.
727200 wrote:We will never know, but I wounder how many zero's had to go with DL 'apology?'
ikolkyo wrote:mapletux wrote:Web500sjc wrote:Any more news?
The Nigerian authorities are unhappy that Delta did not report the incident to them.
http://www.woleshadare.net/aib-impounds ... -incident/
As if they would be doing much anyways...
LupineChemist wrote:Not a great week for PW.