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New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:33 pm
by flydulles
New southwest schedule release due march 8th!

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:45 pm
by SteveXC500
Correct. However, they are really only extending from Oct 1st through Nov 3rd. With that small of a window, not much "new" is expected. Maybe some frequency and possible seasonal route changes.

Anyone want to share any rumored routes?

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:47 pm
by wnflyguy
My guesses?
No Hawaii flights Announcement yet.
Possibly more LAX additions.
PAE schedule.
Normal summer to winter seasonal shifts.

Flyguy

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:50 pm
by flydulles
Oh wow I would of thought they get through thanksgiving maybe Christmas and New Year's in this release wow!

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:50 pm
by southwest1675
Probably nothing much in general. Although one day they’ll add BNA-PDX/IND

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:03 pm
by iflykpdx
When's the next extension after this?

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:09 pm
by SteveXC500
Probably May timeframe.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:23 pm
by Jshank83
This is when they added new international routes last year. I would think that would be about the only adds that could happen this extension. Not much, if anything else.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:29 pm
by zackary747
SteveXC500 wrote:
Correct. However, they are really only extending from Oct 1st through Nov 3rd. With that small of a window, not much "new" is expected. Maybe some frequency and possible seasonal route changes.

Anyone want to share any rumored routes?


They could add something within the existing schedule too. They only added 5 routes network wide last time around.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:29 pm
by zackary747
I hope IND-BNA comes with this one.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:54 pm
by ADrum23
zackary747 wrote:
I hope IND-BNA comes with this one.


I wish, but I don’t think BNA will see anything in this schedule extension since ATL was announced last time.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:45 pm
by SeaDoo
wnflyguy wrote:
My guesses?
No Hawaii flights Announcement yet.
Possibly more LAX additions.
PAE schedule.
Normal summer to winter seasonal shifts.

Flyguy




I hope your right about PAE. I am real curious how this will work out for all airlines, in particular WN and.AS.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:12 pm
by tomaheath
All I want is to see something for Manchester!

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:20 pm
by cvgComair
Let's hope the growth at CVG continues! I am hoping they make PHX year round, plus perhaps another destination. I know I may trigger an enthusiastic response from a certain user :? , but WN identified that Texas, Southeast, and the Northwest are the regions to be targeted from CVG.

None of the Texas stations seem likely, perhaps HOU now that F9 dropped the route, but DAL/AUS are too crowded IMO. The Southeast makes more sense as ATL/MCO/RSW/TPA/FLL all have a lot of demand. For the Northwest, I honestly have no clue, BOS seems like too big of a gamble for WN against DL, but you never know. MDW/BWI/DEN/PHX were the pretty obvious choices, but this is where it will get interesting...

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:37 am
by SANFan
I'm sure PAE, as Hawaii, will not just show up in a schedule extension such as this upcoming one. These totally important new destinations should be announced as separate press releases so WN can get maximum press for them. The flight skeds will simply be added to the appropriate already-announced skeds in effect at that time.

As I also said in the previous (now non-existant?) thread about the March 8 extension, I doubt we'll see anything much. Perhaps a couple more seasonal adjustments but, as has already been mentioned, this extension is for about a month, in the interim period between Fall and Winter, and will just precede the DST shut off for 2018. I really don't know why WN even bothers... seems like a lot of work for no particular reason.

bb

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:54 am
by jplatts
cvgComair wrote:
Let's hope the growth at CVG continues! I am hoping they make PHX year round, plus perhaps another destination. I know I may trigger an enthusiastic response from a certain user :? , but WN identified that Texas, Southeast, and the Northwest are the regions to be targeted from CVG.

None of the Texas stations seem likely, perhaps HOU now that F9 dropped the route, but DAL/AUS are too crowded IMO. The Southeast makes more sense as ATL/MCO/RSW/TPA/FLL all have a lot of demand. For the Northwest, I honestly have no clue, BOS seems like too big of a gamble for WN against DL, but you never know. MDW/BWI/DEN/PHX were the pretty obvious choices, but this is where it will get interesting...


Did you mean Northeast instead of Northwest? BOS is located in the Northeast, not in the Northwest.

Most of the post-Wright Amendment WN nonstop route adds to Texas from destinations that did not have nonstop service to Texas on WN prior to the repeal of the Wright Amendment have been to DAL, including nonstop service to DAL from BUR, CMH, DTW, OMA, ONT, SMF, and SFO. There is also more O&D demand to CVG from DFW/DAL than there is to some of the other destinations that are already served nonstop from DAL on WN.

WN adding CVG-BNA nonstop service is another possibility since WN has been recently expanding at BNA and since BNA is located in the Southeast.

WN has also recently stated that it wants to further expand out of LAS, and WN could also possibly add CVG-LAS nonstop service.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:14 am
by wnflyguy
Off topic but Anyone know when the Open slots for HAV get awarded?

Flyguy

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:30 am
by cvgComair
jplatts wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
Let's hope the growth at CVG continues! I am hoping they make PHX year round, plus perhaps another destination. I know I may trigger an enthusiastic response from a certain user :? , but WN identified that Texas, Southeast, and the Northwest are the regions to be targeted from CVG.

None of the Texas stations seem likely, perhaps HOU now that F9 dropped the route, but DAL/AUS are too crowded IMO. The Southeast makes more sense as ATL/MCO/RSW/TPA/FLL all have a lot of demand. For the Northwest, I honestly have no clue, BOS seems like too big of a gamble for WN against DL, but you never know. MDW/BWI/DEN/PHX were the pretty obvious choices, but this is where it will get interesting...


Did you mean Northeast instead of Northwest? BOS is located in the Northeast, not in the Northwest.

Most of the post-Wright Amendment WN nonstop route adds to Texas from destinations that did not have nonstop service to Texas on WN prior to the repeal of the Wright Amendment have been to DAL, including nonstop service to DAL from BUR, CMH, DTW, OMA, ONT, SMF, and SFO. There is also more O&D demand to CVG from DFW/DAL than there is to some of the other destinations that are already served nonstop from DAL on WN.

WN adding CVG-BNA nonstop service is another possibility since WN has been recently expanding at BNA and since BNA is located in the Southeast.

WN has also recently stated that it wants to further expand out of LAS, and WN could also possibly add CVG-LAS nonstop service.

Yeah, I meant northeast.

BNA is a curious idea, it would allow a lot of connections to Florida/ATL without much direct competition with DL. My guess is LAS will be added later next year during the peak spring/summer time, so probably a few schedule extensions to go for that one.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:58 am
by ADrum23
cvgComair wrote:
jplatts wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
Let's hope the growth at CVG continues! I am hoping they make PHX year round, plus perhaps another destination. I know I may trigger an enthusiastic response from a certain user :? , but WN identified that Texas, Southeast, and the Northwest are the regions to be targeted from CVG.

None of the Texas stations seem likely, perhaps HOU now that F9 dropped the route, but DAL/AUS are too crowded IMO. The Southeast makes more sense as ATL/MCO/RSW/TPA/FLL all have a lot of demand. For the Northwest, I honestly have no clue, BOS seems like too big of a gamble for WN against DL, but you never know. MDW/BWI/DEN/PHX were the pretty obvious choices, but this is where it will get interesting...


Did you mean Northeast instead of Northwest? BOS is located in the Northeast, not in the Northwest.

Most of the post-Wright Amendment WN nonstop route adds to Texas from destinations that did not have nonstop service to Texas on WN prior to the repeal of the Wright Amendment have been to DAL, including nonstop service to DAL from BUR, CMH, DTW, OMA, ONT, SMF, and SFO. There is also more O&D demand to CVG from DFW/DAL than there is to some of the other destinations that are already served nonstop from DAL on WN.

WN adding CVG-BNA nonstop service is another possibility since WN has been recently expanding at BNA and since BNA is located in the Southeast.

WN has also recently stated that it wants to further expand out of LAS, and WN could also possibly add CVG-LAS nonstop service.

Yeah, I meant northeast.

BNA is a curious idea, it would allow a lot of connections to Florida/ATL without much direct competition with DL. My guess is LAS will be added later next year during the peak spring/summer time, so probably a few schedule extensions to go for that one.


I really don’t think there is a market for CVG-BNA on WN. The existing DL flight doesn’t do super well and it is fairly close. What connections would BNA offer that CVG couldn’t get in a place like STL (which I believe they will add) the existing BWI flight?

If WN enters CVG-BNA, you can kiss DL goodbye off that route.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:26 am
by jplatts
ADrum23 wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
jplatts wrote:
WN adding CVG-BNA nonstop service is another possibility since WN has been recently expanding at BNA and since BNA is located in the Southeast.


BNA is a curious idea, it would allow a lot of connections to Florida/ATL without much direct competition with DL. My guess is LAS will be added later next year during the peak spring/summer time, so probably a few schedule extensions to go for that one.


I really don’t think there is a market for CVG-BNA on WN. The existing DL flight doesn’t do super well and it is fairly close. What connections would BNA offer that CVG couldn’t get in a place like STL (which I believe they will add) the existing BWI flight?

If WN enters CVG-BNA, you can kiss DL goodbye off that route.


WN does serve CLT and JAX nonstop from BNA but not from STL. However, WN already serves both CLT and JAX nonstop from both MDW and BWI, and connections to CLT and JAX can be made from CVG through BWI and MDW on WN.

On the other hand, WN adding CVG-STL nonstop service would provide connecting opportunities from CVG to destinations not served nonstop from either CVG or MDW, including ICT, DSM, LIT, and TUL. In addition, WN adding CVG-STL nonstop service would provide additional options for connections to OMA, MCI, DAL, HOU, AUS, SAT, and MSY from CVG.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:34 am
by cvgComair
ADrum23 wrote:
cvgComair wrote:
jplatts wrote:

Did you mean Northeast instead of Northwest? BOS is located in the Northeast, not in the Northwest.

Most of the post-Wright Amendment WN nonstop route adds to Texas from destinations that did not have nonstop service to Texas on WN prior to the repeal of the Wright Amendment have been to DAL, including nonstop service to DAL from BUR, CMH, DTW, OMA, ONT, SMF, and SFO. There is also more O&D demand to CVG from DFW/DAL than there is to some of the other destinations that are already served nonstop from DAL on WN.

WN adding CVG-BNA nonstop service is another possibility since WN has been recently expanding at BNA and since BNA is located in the Southeast.

WN has also recently stated that it wants to further expand out of LAS, and WN could also possibly add CVG-LAS nonstop service.

Yeah, I meant northeast.

BNA is a curious idea, it would allow a lot of connections to Florida/ATL without much direct competition with DL. My guess is LAS will be added later next year during the peak spring/summer time, so probably a few schedule extensions to go for that one.


I really don’t think there is a market for CVG-BNA on WN. The existing DL flight doesn’t do super well and it is fairly close. What connections would BNA offer that CVG couldn’t get in a place like STL (which I believe they will add) the existing BWI flight?

If WN enters CVG-BNA, you can kiss DL goodbye off that route.

Yeah, idk, just trying to figure out what they mean by adding service to the Southwest. Starting ATL is only asking for trouble and as previously discussed, the Florida routes are really crowded.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:54 am
by stl07
STL/BNA/IND/MCI to another latin american/caribbean destination with service already on it

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:42 pm
by SWAplanner
No Hawaii announcement with this schedule release.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:51 pm
by LotsaRunway
Anyone know what the airframe difference is between this year and last? It seems some markets are still getting trimmed to fund expansion in others.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:40 pm
by wnflyguy
SWAplanner wrote:
No Hawaii announcement with this schedule release.


Doesn't get anymore blunt than that!
Thanks for the update!

Flyguy

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:48 pm
by southwest1675
I would be amazed if BNA gets another announcement tomorrow.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:22 pm
by flydulles
Hearing houston to Milwaukee....

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:50 pm
by jplatts
flydulles wrote:
Hearing houston to Milwaukee....


WN starts HOU-MKE, AUA-FLL, and CVG-PHX nonstop service tomorrow.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:39 pm
by ADrum23
southwest1675 wrote:
I would be amazed if BNA gets another announcement tomorrow.


BNA isn’t getting anything tomorrow, but they probably will the next extension in May (I think that’s when it is)

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:07 pm
by jplatts
southwest1675 wrote:
jplatts wrote:
flydulles wrote:
Hearing houston to Milwaukee....


WN starts HOU-MKE, AUA-FLL, and CVG-PHX nonstop service tomorrow.


This on their route map?


All three of these nonstop routes were already announced last year, and all three of these nonstop routes are already on the route map.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:08 pm
by southwest1675
jplatts wrote:
flydulles wrote:
Hearing houston to Milwaukee....


WN starts HOU-MKE, AUA-FLL, and CVG-PHX nonstop service tomorrow.


This on their route map?

SWA posts HOU-SDF and HOU-CMH

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:48 pm
by tbboko802
Southwest airlines has 2 new daily routes from Houston Hobby to Louisville, KY (begins October 3, 2018) and Columbus, Ohio (begins October 3, 2018) listed in the new flight schedule on the SWA website. Louisville is a new route and Columbus has previously only appeared as a holiday season 1-2x/week flight.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:12 pm
by Jshank83
I have seen SDF/CMH-HOU mentioned on another thread.

Next Update on May 31st goes through January 6

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:28 pm
by SteveXC500
MSP picks up an additional MDW segment (8 daily) vs the prior schedule extension. 26 flights to 9 cities. Nothing new!

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:36 pm
by dolphinflyer
ALB-LAS n/s gets reinstated with this schedule release.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:44 pm
by WaywardMemphian
MEM/DEN, about damn time

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:45 pm
by flydulles
How are you all finding this all so fast? Did Dulles get anything new??

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:47 pm
by modernArt
El Paso - Denver is on the route map. Was that previously announced?

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:20 pm
by flydulles
Wow next schedule release not till 31 may goes through January 6 that seems like a long gap ... to me.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:52 pm
by greenair727
Any CLE updates?

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:54 pm
by WN1196
Southwest adds OKC-BNA

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:04 pm
by gerstetm
STL get any new flights?

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:05 pm
by AWACSooner
WN1196 wrote:
Southwest adds OKC-BNA

Yesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!

edit: looking at dummy bookings, I'm not seeing it...any idea when it starts?

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:07 pm
by southwest1675
BNA folks are hearing OKC or PDX.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:11 pm
by TWA302
Is there any reason why WN does not have any International routes out of DAL? I just booked STL-SJD and never knew this after scanning the route map.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:11 pm
by TWA302
gerstetm wrote:
STL get any new flights?


I don't see anything new.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:12 pm
by red66mustang
TWA302 wrote:
Is there any reason why WN does not have any International routes out of DAL? I just booked STL-SJD and never knew this after scanning the route map.


Current iteration of the Wright Amendment (5-Party Agreement) prohibits it

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:12 pm
by flydulles
How do you all get these flights before it gets updated on route map? Did Dulles get anything?

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:15 pm
by gerstetm
flydulles wrote:
How do you all get these flights before it gets updated on route map? Did Dulles get anything?


Wondering the same thing.

Re: New southwest schedule release due march 8th!!

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:16 pm
by WN1196
AWACSooner wrote:
WN1196 wrote:
Southwest adds OKC-BNA

Yesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!

edit: looking at dummy bookings, I'm not seeing it...any idea when it starts?


Ya I just looked and can not find it in the bookings either. I just saw it on the route map