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A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:51 pm

Link/Source: http://www.travelandleisure.com/travel- ... -open-door


"A passenger onboard a United Express flight has been detained after attempting to open the plane door in the middle of a trip from San Francisco to Boise, Idaho on Monday."

"Footage shared on social media appears to show passengers attempting to hold the woman down as she tries to head for the door while screaming, “I am God, I am God, I am God.”

"Representatives of SkyWest, which was operating the United Express flight 5449 when the incident occurred, said in a statement to the International Business Times that the flight was able to land safely before police met the passenger at the gate and took her in for questioning."

Video is inside the link ......
 
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:58 pm

I bet the pax thought it would actually open
 
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:04 pm

32andBelow wrote:
I bet the pax thought it would actually open

If she really was God, she may have been able to open it...
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:44 pm

Moose135 wrote:
32andBelow wrote:
I bet the pax thought it would actually open

If she really was God, she may have been able to open it...


Maybe she could convince a pilot to take her skydiving without a parachute!!
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2018 11:50 pm

Is UA's onboard service THAT bad? ;)

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Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:00 am

SmithAir747 wrote:
Is UA's onboard service THAT bad? ;)

SmithAir747

Not funny my friend, particularly for those in the aircraft.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:50 am

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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:55 am

Hoping she gets the mental help she needs. While she wouldn’t have been able to open it, it is still a scary situation and she obviously needs help.
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:59 am

Peterwk146 wrote:
SmithAir747 wrote:
Is UA's onboard service THAT bad? ;)

SmithAir747

Not funny my friend, particularly for those in the aircraft.


You can't really open a pressurized door on an aircraft. Considering that there was no threat, I think it's a funny way to add humor to an otherwise frustrating and bizarre situation.

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Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:45 am

Yeah, there is something like several thousand pounds of force needed to open a door with an in-flight pressure differential. An olympic weightlifter couldn't open one, it's just not something that can be done by a human.

That said, it's true most people don't have any idea of how that works and additionally think of the pressure differential as something that will cause any sized hole to instantly turn into Aloha 243, so that is rather frightening.

The woman is obviously deeply troubled and I hope she gets the help she clearly needs and will be able to lead a normal life.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:54 am

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Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:58 am

jubguy3 wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
SmithAir747 wrote:
Is UA's onboard service THAT bad? ;)

SmithAir747

Not funny my friend, particularly for those in the aircraft.


You can't really open a pressurized door on an aircraft. Considering that there was no threat, I think it's a funny way to add humor to an otherwise frustrating and bizarre situation.

I am god! I am god! I am god!

Why do you want to add humour? Just put yourself in that situation. I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:05 am

Peterwk146 wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
Not funny my friend, particularly for those in the aircraft.


You can't really open a pressurized door on an aircraft. Considering that there was no threat, I think it's a funny way to add humor to an otherwise frustrating and bizarre situation.

I am god! I am god! I am god!

Why do you want to add humour? Just put yourself in that situation. I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.


If someone on my flight was shouting “I am God!” While failing to open a pressurised door I would be laughing so bad. It would be hilarious :)
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:16 am

Why does God need to get about on an airplane? I'd what to see some I.D. ;)
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:37 am

Peterwk146 wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
Not funny my friend, particularly for those in the aircraft.


You can't really open a pressurized door on an aircraft. Considering that there was no threat, I think it's a funny way to add humor to an otherwise frustrating and bizarre situation.

I am god! I am god! I am god!

Why do you want to add humour? Just put yourself in that situation. I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.


Book yourself in for a sense of humour transplant.

It'll help you through life not being miserable all the time.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:40 am

Peterwk146 wrote:
Why do you want to add humour? Just put yourself in that situation. I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.


Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?

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Book yourself in for a sense of humour transplant.


Too late, he's had a humour bypass.
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:59 am

Peterwk146 wrote:
I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.


If anybody on this flight was really terrified or went through any ordeal because of this, you feeling for them won't help them. Education helps, but this comes at a cost and needs effort. So yes, please keep on feeling. Or how about a prayer for these people?
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:36 am

readytotaxi wrote:
Why does God need to get about on an airplane? I'd what to see some I.D. ;)


Maybe it was a mileage run to retain status.

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Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:15 am

Excuse my ignorance but in the majority of cases where doors open outwards what stops them from being opened inflight? Do the rubber seals expand and hold it in place? I always assumed with a 737 it can never work since the door moves inwards a little bit before outwards?

On a lighter note if there were no other passengers it would be funny to see the crew say 'OK God, open the door then!'
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:24 am

readytotaxi wrote:
Why does God need to get about on an airplane? I'd what to see some I.D. ;)


God works in mysterious ways. LOL
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:41 am

It looks like even God doesn't like the service on United Express.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:54 am

opticalilyushin wrote:
Excuse my ignorance but in the majority of cases where doors open outwards what stops them from being opened inflight? Do the rubber seals expand and hold it in place? I always assumed with a 737 it can never work since the door moves inwards a little bit before outwards?

On a lighter note if there were no other passengers it would be funny to see the crew say 'OK God, open the door then!'


The cabin doors are known as plug doors. They are designed such that the action of cabin differential pressure keeps them closed.

So as long as the cabin is pressurised, the doors cannot be opened.

P.S. I don't eat cornflakes and I haven't had a humour bypass. I just think that to make fun out of a situation which would have caused a lot of distress to a lot of innocent people isn't on.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:47 pm

cledaybuck wrote:
If someone asks you if you are a God, you say yes!

hehe.
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:53 pm

Peterwk146 wrote:
P.S. I don't eat cornflakes and I haven't had a humour bypass. I just think that to make fun out of a situation which would have caused a lot of distress to a lot of innocent people isn't on.


Elevating the "distress of those innocents" too much is not a god idea. every case reduces trigger levels by some margin. Every time.
thus...
.. bringing up the humorous side is probably better coping than screaming for "another set of single case legislation" ( which you didn't either :-)
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:22 pm

Somewhat crazy idea of the passenger who did this. Must be an intentional act that was planned for weeks or months. Who would like to see the video of the TSA checkpoint in this occurrence?
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:20 pm

September11 wrote:
Somewhat crazy idea of the passenger who did this. Must be an intentional act that was planned for weeks or months. Who would like to see the video of the TSA checkpoint in this occurrence?


What makes you think anything about this incident was pre-planned or rational?
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:43 pm

WIederling wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
P.S. I don't eat cornflakes and I haven't had a humour bypass. I just think that to make fun out of a situation which would have caused a lot of distress to a lot of innocent people isn't on.


Elevating the "distress of those innocents" too much is not a god idea. every case reduces trigger levels by some margin. Every time.
thus...
.. bringing up the humorous side is probably better coping than screaming for "another set of single case legislation" ( which you didn't either :-)

That's your opinion - I don't agree with you so we'll just have to leave it there. I'm just glad that I wasn't on that flight as I guess that you would be too.
 
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PolarRoute wrote:
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:03 pm

Peterwk146 wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
Not funny my friend, particularly for those in the aircraft.


You can't really open a pressurized door on an aircraft. Considering that there was no threat, I think it's a funny way to add humor to an otherwise frustrating and bizarre situation.

I am god! I am god! I am god!

Why do you want to add humour? Just put yourself in that situation. I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.


Oh boy, you are so considerate. Thank God there are still good people (like you) around, and not just fools laughing about through life...

Lighten up, seriously.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 4:10 pm

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That's your opinion - I don't agree with you so we'll just have to leave it there. I'm just glad that I wasn't on that flight as I guess that you would be too.


Yes, obviously so ( all 3 statements of yours ).
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:04 pm

Peterwk146 wrote:
The cabin doors are known as plug doors. They are designed such that the action of cabin differential pressure keeps them closed.

So as long as the cabin is pressurised, the doors cannot be opened.

P.S. I don't eat cornflakes and I haven't had a humour bypass. I just think that to make fun out of a situation which would have caused a lot of distress to a lot of innocent people isn't on.


Why would it cause them distress? As you state, they can't be opened.

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readytotaxi wrote:
Why does God need to get about on an airplane? I'd what to see some I.D. ;)


Maybe it was a mileage run to retain status.

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If someone on my flight was shouting “I am God!” While failing to open a pressurized door I would be laughing so bad. It would be hilarious :)


Exactly. So sad it's funny.
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:26 pm

32andBelow wrote:
I bet the pax thought it would actually open


So basically...she goes to jail for nothing. LOL
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:10 pm

ua900 wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
The cabin doors are known as plug doors. They are designed such that the action of cabin differential pressure keeps them closed.

So as long as the cabin is pressurised, the doors cannot be opened.

Why would it cause them distress? As you state, they can't be opened.

Except not everybody on that aircraft knows that they cannot be opened in flight. In fact I'll bet not even everybody on these forums knows that for sure.
So, ordinary passengers on that flight could be distressed on numerous levels.
1) Distressed because a fellow human being is in distress. (there is a name for that, I think the simplest word for it is "empathy")
2) Distressed because the door might fly open and kill everybody (because they are not all avgeeks and don't all know that this isn't possible)
3) Distressed because even if this woman cannot open the door, what else might she be capable of that will endanger the flight?
4) Distressed because the aircraft might have to turn back or divert to a different destination...
5) Distressed because even if it continues to it's final destination, it will be met by FBI and God-knows-who-else, and there is no way these passengers will be getting off the plane without some delay.

As it happens I totally agree that there is room for expressing humor in this situation, and I don't think anybody over-stepped the mark here today. But you asked the question "why would it cause them distress"? I sense a lack of empathy on your part. How do you plead?
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:02 pm

Indeed, Sheikh & Peter, I side with you.

While many on here would find it rip-roaring hilarious, I have a wife, children, mother, brother; all of which would be terrified that it is possible to open that door and doom the plane. I imagine them sitting on that plane and I feel less able to laugh.

This woman is clearly very ill, she's not of sound mind believing she's going to simply open the door...another reason laughing just seems inappropriate.

Lotta folks on here really can't see past their own interests....I guess that's one of the "charms" of humanity [sigh...]
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:08 pm

oldannyboy wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:

You can't really open a pressurized door on an aircraft. Considering that there was no threat, I think it's a funny way to add humor to an otherwise frustrating and bizarre situation.

I am god! I am god! I am god!

Why do you want to add humour? Just put yourself in that situation. I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.


Oh boy, you are so considerate. Thank God there are still good people (like you) around, and not just fools laughing about through life...

Lighten up, seriously.


Grow up and learn some empathy, like the adults have.
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Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:28 pm

The humorless fail to comprehend humor.
 
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jethro1 wrote:
The humorless fail to comprehend humor.


I know, you can't help them poor souls...what a sad life. :roll:
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:09 pm

The Embraer 175 which "Ms. God" was aboard has a pressurization differential of 7.8 psi to FL 370 and 8.3 psi above that. United Express/ Sky West flight 5449 on Monday was filed at FL350. She looks to be built along the lines of a Sumo wrestler but I doubt she can pull a plug door in with roughly 20,000 lbs. of pressurization weight.
 
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One thing: People are weird.
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SheikhDjibouti wrote:
ua900 wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
The cabin doors are known as plug doors. They are designed such that the action of cabin differential pressure keeps them closed.

So as long as the cabin is pressurised, the doors cannot be opened.

Why would it cause them distress? As you state, they can't be opened.

Except not everybody on that aircraft knows that they cannot be opened in flight. In fact I'll bet not even everybody on these forums knows that for sure.
So, ordinary passengers on that flight could be distressed on numerous levels.
1) Distressed because a fellow human being is in distress. (there is a name for that, I think the simplest word for it is "empathy")
2) Distressed because the door might fly open and kill everybody (because they are not all avgeeks and don't all know that this isn't possible)
3) Distressed because even if this woman cannot open the door, what else might she be capable of that will endanger the flight?
4) Distressed because the aircraft might have to turn back or divert to a different destination...
5) Distressed because even if it continues to it's final destination, it will be met by FBI and God-knows-who-else, and there is no way these passengers will be getting off the plane without some delay.

As it happens I totally agree that there is room for expressing humor in this situation, and I don't think anybody over-stepped the mark here today. But you asked the question "why would it cause them distress"? I sense a lack of empathy on your part. How do you plead?


Plead?? Lol.

Peter said that it would cause distress to some, at the same time he also said it's not possible to open the doors. I'd say that regular folks should be educated by every news article on the subject lest mass hysteria ensues. Fun to write articles on "xyz drama in the air" without educating passengers that "xyz" by itself presented no actual risk to the flight (as in this case). And we all know that had she done something else, the outcome would have always been the same. She gets tackled by a couple 200 pound volunteers, cuffed and tied to a chair until the flight lands. Could have been "just the door" or something worse, all the same outcome for her. She gets nowhere and the flight moves on.

1) She's a crazy person on what is essentially public transit. Ride a bus or a subway in many countries and you'll be familiar with the theme. It's not the 1960s where prices for plane tickets were so high that the riff-raff was automatically kept at bay.
2) Every news article that mentions the incident should make it plain that it won't happen. That's how education of the masses and responsible journalism ought to work.
3) I'm 100% sure she ended up in plasticuffs PDQ.
4) Lots of other reasons to divert. Would they be distressed over a medical or a mechanical issue? Things happen. Stay calm, take your certificates / vouchers, and carry on.
5) That's life in the post-9/11 environment.

And 5) is really the only point the traveling public needs to know about. Highjackings and clowns like her went out the door with 9/11. Now everyone will assume the worst. Accordingly flying has become a lot safer when it comes to in-cabin issues. You now have re-enforced doors, FFDOs, more FAMs, more LEOs / PCFAs, a couple other things that are SSI and don't belong on this board.

And most importantly you now have lots of able bodied volunteers who will no longer assume a benign outcome and will thus be ready to tackle any sick or psycho passenger who stands up there and does something really silly. I have 100% empathy for every innocent passenger, for every child and every mom who worries. I have zero empathy for people like her who should have their flying privileges (and air travel isn't a basic human right) revoked for life. The F/A and able bodies volunteers who ensure everyone's safety are true heroes who save the day for everyone who does worry. The perps who do this deserve what they get. The traveling public should be informed about what happened, what couldn't have happened, and the outcome of her court case. Information is the best education and reduces the number of those who worry.


oldannyboy wrote:
jethro1 wrote:
The humorless fail to comprehend humor.


I know, you can't help them poor souls...what a sad life. :roll:


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ua900 wrote:
Highjackings and clowns like her went out the door with 9/11. Now everyone will assume the worst. Accordingly flying has become a lot safer when it comes to in-cabin issues. You now have re-enforced doors, FFDOs, more FAMs, more LEOs / PCFAs, a couple other things that are SSI and don't belong on this board.

I was reasonably content with your content, until I came upon your list of SFAs. Finding myself unable to R2A2, I regret I simply CBA to look them all up.

Meanwhile, outside of the USA, the other 95.7% of the world's population don't generally have Federal-this or Federal-that on board their flights. Or LEOs. I would add PCFAs too, but a thorough internet search only offered nine options, none of which seemed relevant, so I will reserve comment on that (Pistol Carrying Flight Attendants?). Conversely acronymfinder.com offered 147 options for SSI including one definition that was so sensitive it could only be viewed in a darkened room with the curtains drawn..

Thankfully the majority of aircraft (worldwide) are fitted with reinforced doors (or re-enforced if you prefer) and together with extra security screening on the ground, that is enough for the majority of countries that don't worship gun ownership. I guess that alone makes the USA a special case......
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I'd say that regular folks should be educated by every news article on the subject lest mass hysteria ensues. Fun to write articles on "xyz drama in the air" without educating passengers that "xyz" by itself presented no actual risk to the flight (as in this case).
It's not the 1960s where prices for plane tickets were so high that the riff-raff was automatically kept at bay.

Every news article that mentions the incident should make it plain that it won't happen. That's how education of the masses and responsible journalism ought to work.

Information is the best education and reduces the number of those who worry.

Good luck with all that educashun. Genuinely.

But here is a really frightening thought; after responsible journalists have patiently explained that nobody could open a cabin door at altitude because of the pressure differential, and repeated this information numerous times, any half-educated terrorist (or other deranged fruit-cake) would simply arrange their "I am God" moment to coincide with final approach so that there is no pressure differential. At least that is what I'd tell my boys to do..... :lol:

Sometimes it is in everybody's best interest to keep people ignorant. Indeed, some countries have a head start in that department.....
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:05 pm

ua900 wrote:
1) She's a crazy person on what is essentially public transit. Ride a bus or a subway in many countries and you'll be familiar with the theme. It's not the 1960s where prices for plane tickets were so high that the riff-raff was automatically kept at bay.


Pfffft.
Only the tag changes.
Rich people having the same kind of affliction are called "eccentric".
And chances were that such eccentric behavior was kept under the rug.
With just the stewardess looking a bit ruffled afterward.
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:49 pm

I always get nervous when my mother flies and these sort of threads start coming up...
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:27 am

SheikhDjibouti wrote:
ua900 wrote:
Highjackings and clowns like her went out the door with 9/11. Now everyone will assume the worst. Accordingly flying has become a lot safer when it comes to in-cabin issues. You now have re-enforced doors, FFDOs, more FAMs, more LEOs / PCFAs, a couple other things that are SSI and don't belong on this board.

I was reasonably content with your content, until I came upon your list of SFAs. Finding myself unable to R2A2, I regret I simply CBA to look them all up.

Meanwhile, outside of the USA, the other 95.7% of the world's population don't generally have Federal-this or Federal-that on board their flights. Or LEOs. I would add PCFAs too, but a thorough internet search only offered nine options, none of which seemed relevant, so I will reserve comment on that (Pistol Carrying Flight Attendants?). Conversely acronymfinder.com offered 147 options for SSI including one definition that was so sensitive it could only be viewed in a darkened room with the curtains drawn..

Thankfully the majority of aircraft (worldwide) are fitted with reinforced doors (or re-enforced if you prefer) and together with extra security screening on the ground, that is enough for the majority of countries that don't worship gun ownership. I guess that alone makes the USA a special case......
ua900 wrote:
I'd say that regular folks should be educated by every news article on the subject lest mass hysteria ensues. Fun to write articles on "xyz drama in the air" without educating passengers that "xyz" by itself presented no actual risk to the flight (as in this case).
It's not the 1960s where prices for plane tickets were so high that the riff-raff was automatically kept at bay.

Every news article that mentions the incident should make it plain that it won't happen. That's how education of the masses and responsible journalism ought to work.

Information is the best education and reduces the number of those who worry.

Good luck with all that educashun. Genuinely.

But here is a really frightening thought; after responsible journalists have patiently explained that nobody could open a cabin door at altitude because of the pressure differential, and repeated this information numerous times, any half-educated terrorist (or other deranged fruit-cake) would simply arrange their "I am God" moment to coincide with final approach so that there is no pressure differential. At least that is what I'd tell my boys to do..... :lol:

Sometimes it is in everybody's best interest to keep people ignorant. Indeed, some countries have a head start in that department.....


Yeah, we're a special case, we've had 9/11. PCFA = Passenger Carrying a Firearm

We don't worship guns, but when people from other parts of the world attacked us by hijacking our planes and did crazy things because they thought they were God or were desperate to meet God, we elected to take the Israeli approach and not the EU approach. Everyone can make their own choices there. We tell our boys to stand up for themselves rather than die on their knees begging someone for mercy that they'll never receive anyway. We didn't seek this, but reality is that some people out there don't like who we are and what we stand for.

But quite frankly the fact that we have in flight entertainment, alcohol and at times don't comply to dress codes that prevail in benighted parts of the world is more important than any gun will ever be. We won't stop broadcasting MTV in the Arab world for example, and that does more to influence a culture than the other side ever can. Same for having a working economy, it's a better advertising than a gun.

Flying brings people together, we'll always fly international, and we'll take precautions to the best extend possible. If that has to involve armed security on select flights that's obviously sad in a way, but history shows us that it's needed in this day and age. Anyone who tries to pull a door handle on approach will be met with the same resolve as that passenger. No one in the US will make the mistake of trusting someone's assurance that a situation will have a positive outcome for them if they hold still. The volunteers will now handle anyone with swiftness and resolve, assuming the worst.
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:41 am

oldannyboy wrote:
Peterwk146 wrote:
jubguy3 wrote:

You can't really open a pressurized door on an aircraft. Considering that there was no threat, I think it's a funny way to add humor to an otherwise frustrating and bizarre situation.

I am god! I am god! I am god!

Why do you want to add humour? Just put yourself in that situation. I think that there would have been many on that flight who would have been terrified. I'm sad that the passengers had to go through that ordeal and for the woman who clearly has major mental issues.


Oh boy, you are so considerate. Thank God there are still good people (like you) around, and not just fools laughing about through life...

Lighten up, seriously.

Apparently God is in a jail in Boise right now so maybe you can call and thank her personally.
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:47 am

vhqpa wrote:
I always get nervous when my mother flies and these sort of threads start coming up...


... is she "God" ?
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Re: A Woman Screaming 'I Am God' Tried to Open a Plane Door Mid-flight

Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:49 am

WIederling wrote:
vhqpa wrote:
I always get nervous when my mother flies and these sort of threads start coming up...


... is she "God" ?


:laughing: :laughing:

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