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SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:29 pm
by loisencroach
....and now a fourth player on the SEA-ANC route. 7JUN-20AUG 5x weekly except TUE/WED.

Also, STS-MSP is returning this year 29JUN-27AUG, this time twice weekly.

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Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:32 pm
by allegiantflyer
I am liking the boldness of the new SY

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 5:43 pm
by PlanesNTrains
Well, SEA-ANC in summer 5x weekly is nice, but I wouldn’t call that bold. More like a sure-thing.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:08 pm
by Mexicana757
Besides ANC looks like they are also opening seasonal MSP-STS and SAN-SJD.

MSP-STS 2x weekly from 29JUN- 27AUG (Monday/Friday)
SAN-SJD 2x weekly from 29JUN- 19AUG (Sunday/Friday)

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:17 pm
by enilria
As I posted in another thread, the head of SY route planning as of Feb2018 just left AS route planning, so I would expect nearly all former AS/VX routes added and that's what is happening. Whether that is a good strategy I'm not as sure, but people tend to work from their knowledge base.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:31 pm
by Italianflyer
How is SY handling aircraft/crew rotations?
With the old model bring MSP (and somewhat DFW) centric, crews and planes were used on turns and day trip missions. Outstation RONs on scheduled trips were rare so hotel, per diem and ground handling costs were minimized.
Is this still the case?

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:48 pm
by dbo861
Sorry but I’m not very familiar with SY. Are they receiving new aircraft or adding these routes at the expense of others? Or is there that much slack in their fleet?

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:50 pm
by sunking737
Italianflyer wrote:
How is SY handling aircraft/crew rotations?
With the old model bring MSP (and somewhat DFW) centric, crews and planes were used on turns and day trip missions. Outstation RONs on scheduled trips were rare so hotel, per diem and ground handling costs were minimized.
Is this still the case?


SY has 27 737 at present. They don't have room for all those to RON in MSP. They now have RON at outstations. ex MCO, RSW, PHX to name a few.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:57 pm
by FA9295
This makes absolutely no sense to me. So I guess the demand for SEA to ANC and vise versa is infinite...?

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:04 pm
by Chugach
FA9295 wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. So I guess the demand for SEA to ANC and vise versa is infinite...?


In the summer, it’s about as close to a sure thing as you can get.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:07 pm
by SteveXC500
sunking737 wrote:
Italianflyer wrote:
How is SY handling aircraft/crew rotations?
With the old model bring MSP (and somewhat DFW) centric, crews and planes were used on turns and day trip missions. Outstation RONs on scheduled trips were rare so hotel, per diem and ground handling costs were minimized.
Is this still the case?


SY has 27 737 at present. They don't have room for all those to RON in MSP. They now have RON at outstations. ex MCO, RSW, PHX to name a few.


I believe N824SY will be delivered soon. Flew over to Melbourne FL from AMS on Monday.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:11 pm
by Chugach
Looks like an evening flight in both directions; much better than the B6 timing on the route.

Based on the timing I am guessing the aircraft will go SEA-ANC-MSP and MSP-ANC-SEA.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:29 pm
by SteveXC500
Could it route MSP-SEA-ANC and then in reverse?

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:47 pm
by allegiantflyer
Chugach wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. So I guess the demand for SEA to ANC and vise versa is infinite...?


In the summer, it’s about as close to a sure thing as you can get.


Is this all local demand? I feel like with the frequency on this route, at least half the population of Seattle takes a trip to Alaska in the summer.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:56 pm
by PlanesNTrains
allegiantflyer wrote:
Chugach wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. So I guess the demand for SEA to ANC and vise versa is infinite...?


In the summer, it’s about as close to a sure thing as you can get.


Is this all local demand? I feel like with the frequency on this route, at least half the population of Seattle takes a trip to Alaska in the summer.


I don’t know the numbers, but there is a very strong connection between Seattle and Alaska, as it’s historically been the gateway to AK. That has faded over the years but it’s still very strong.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:12 pm
by FA9295
PlanesNTrains wrote:
allegiantflyer wrote:
Chugach wrote:

In the summer, it’s about as close to a sure thing as you can get.


Is this all local demand? I feel like with the frequency on this route, at least half the population of Seattle takes a trip to Alaska in the summer.


I don’t know the numbers, but there is a very strong connection between Seattle and Alaska, as it’s historically been the gateway to AK. That has faded over the years but it’s still very strong.

The route operates close to 30 daily flights during the peak seasonal months. To me, that seems crazy. But hey, if the demand really does exist, than call me crazy. ;)

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:59 pm
by 32andBelow
allegiantflyer wrote:
Chugach wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. So I guess the demand for SEA to ANC and vise versa is infinite...?


In the summer, it’s about as close to a sure thing as you can get.


Is this all local demand? I feel like with the frequency on this route, at least half the population of Seattle takes a trip to Alaska in the summer.

So it's just were most of us in Alaska connect, and we can't exactly drive very often.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:00 pm
by MIflyer12
allegiantflyer wrote:
Chugach wrote:
FA9295 wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. So I guess the demand for SEA to ANC and vise versa is infinite...?


In the summer, it’s about as close to a sure thing as you can get.


Is this all local demand? I feel like with the frequency on this route, at least half the population of Seattle takes a trip to Alaska in the summer.


Nah, it's heavy on cruise ship demand from oldsters all across the US48..

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:01 am
by hiflyeras
Watch for AS to announce ANC-MSP? The rumor every year is that they're going fly it in the summers.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:05 am
by wedgetail737
With SY and B6 doing the SEA-ANC will bring down the fares on some flights this summer.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:40 am
by EvanWSFO
FA9295 wrote:
This makes absolutely no sense to me. So I guess the demand for SEA to ANC and vise versa is infinite...?


I don't get it either. 5x a week versus 20ish AS flights, several DL flights, and B6. Lots of competition.

Re: SY SEA-ANC Loaded

Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:41 pm
by SANFan
Mexicana757 wrote:
Besides ANC looks like they are also opening seasonal MSP-STS and SAN-SJD.
MSP-STS 2x weekly from 29JUN- 27AUG (Monday/Friday)
SAN-SJD 2x weekly from 29JUN- 19AUG (Sunday/Friday)

Hmmmm, interesting and I'm happy to see that the new SY is aware of SAN!..NK tried the Cabo route and just gave it up last fall after WN jumped into the market. Their daily nonstop plus multiple daily service on AS -- all year-round I might ad -- make it unlikely that SY will be able to make a go of it but it's nice to see them trying something!

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