FermiParadox
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How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:16 pm

Saw this come across my Facebook feed and thought it might be of interest to the users here, especially baseball fans.

https://www.allmysportsteamssuck.com/2018/03/06/which-mlb-team-will-fly-the-farthest-in-2018/

Seems to follow a natural order with west coast teams having to fly more, but surprising that some of the lowest distance teams are not so geographically aligned.

Interested in hearing the discussion on here about this
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:43 pm

This makes the assumption that teams fly to every away game, which is not the case.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:48 pm

The author mentions that issue specifically in the article (because the data can't be discovered very easily), but the examples of teams using trains between cities are the exception, not the rule. Very rarely do teams take ground transport between away games.
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:52 pm

FermiParadox wrote:
The author mentions that issue specifically in the article (because the data can't be discovered very easily), but the examples of teams using trains between cities are the exception, not the rule. Very rarely do teams take ground transport between away games.


That would be incorrect.

When I lived in St. Louis and worked for the Cardinals, it was a mix of flying and bus.

If the road swing was out to New York and Boston back to back, fly to NY, bus to Boston, then fly back from Boston.

If the swing was out to Cincinnati then up to Chicago then back home, bus the entire way.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:59 pm

stlgph wrote:
FermiParadox wrote:
The author mentions that issue specifically in the article (because the data can't be discovered very easily), but the examples of teams using trains between cities are the exception, not the rule. Very rarely do teams take ground transport between away games.


That would be incorrect.

When I lived in St. Louis and worked for the Cardinals, it was a mix of flying and bus.

If the road swing was out to New York and Boston back to back, fly to NY, bus to Boston, then fly back from Boston.

If the swing was out to Cincinnati then up to Chicago then back home, bus the entire way.


How long ago was that? I have worked with MLB charters for the last five years and there's very little ground transport.
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:06 pm

Me? 2004 to 2006, but it's still being done that way quite often. Lots of friends and old colleagues still on the circuit.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:52 pm

So setting aside the pedantry, if you changed "Fly" to "travel" would you agree with the premise of the article?
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:00 pm

Travel - yes. Fly - no. Details are important. Hence the rise of the ever popular term #FakeNews. Facts aren't pendantic.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:13 am

stlgph wrote:
Travel - yes. Fly - no. Details are important. Hence the rise of the ever popular term #FakeNews. Facts aren't pendantic.

If only people realized how ridiculous they look using "#FakeNews" in regular conversation.

Maybe I'm simple, but I thought it was interesting, who cares if it isn't accurate down to the mile? I guess I assumed they would actually fly more miles than they actually do.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:25 am

I just checked the D-Backs schedule, only one possible bus trip Philly to Washington. Talk about a weird road trip starting in Anaheim then Pittsburgh and down to Miami. The Dodgers look to have two both involving the Padres once from Dodgers Stadium and once from the Big A.
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 12:29 am

jetblueguy22 wrote:
stlgph wrote:
Travel - yes. Fly - no. Details are important. Hence the rise of the ever popular term #FakeNews. Facts aren't pendantic.

If only people realized how ridiculous they look using "#FakeNews" in regular conversation.

Maybe I'm simple, but I thought it was interesting, who cares if it isn't accurate down to the mile? I guess I assumed they would actually fly more miles than they actually do.

Couldn’t agree with you more. I’m glad these critically important facts were brought to light! :lol:
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:53 am

I was under the impressions that teams within the heart of the Northeast Corridor between New York and Baltimore/Washington would take Amtrak from time to time. As I recall, the Pirates traveled from New York to DC via Amtrak last season, but, that seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:10 am

I thought uberBus was taking a big percentage of NE team travel?? ;)
Anyway, I like the maps and really don't care about the ground transport hubbub.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:28 am

Thanks for sharing this it was fun! Go Padres, we are but a year or two from competing!
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:29 am

In general, this year won't be as far traveled as the previous two. Since inter-league play will be within the division (NL West plays AL West), it will require less travel.
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:40 am

According to the Collective Bargaining Agreement, there is a limit of 200 miles on bus travel, absent any extenuating circumstances. I didnt't look up rail travel, although I don't remember seeing anything specific to that.

Some interesting extras. Any player required by the club to travel must do so in first, or best available, class, and two travelling together in coach must be provided with three tickets. A player can purchase an upgrade, and be reimbursed the cost.

Quite fun really, reading the minutiae that the CBA covers.
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:00 pm

When I worked in BOS I recall the Red Sox always flying. Even to NYC. The team would show up at our gates shortly after the last out. Some nights we would have planes for both of the teams. Kind of funny when it was a Yankees-Sox series. They would play 3 in BOS and then both fly on separate planes to NY for the other half of the series.
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:34 pm

And here is the same for the NHL 2017/18-season:

https://www.ontheforecheck.com/2017/6/2 ... r-schedule

Some interesting notes:
The average mileage per team is 40,778, up from last year’s 39,856.
There’s a new top two! Colorado and Calgary, previously 3rd and 7th on the list, will be traveling the most miles this year. They replace Edmonton and San Jose, who held the top two spots for the last two years running.
New Jersey remains near the bottom of the list. This year they are joined by Pittsburgh, who has the least amount of travel at 34,041 miles. Finally! A break for the Penguins!
Don’t worry, the Penguins didn’t get it too easy. They are tied with the Senators for the most number of back-to-backs at 19.
The Predators only have 11 back-to-backs, down from 13 last year, though they add 3,339 miles to their travel this year.
The Capitals lose the most mileage this year, traveling 5,952 fewer miles than last year.The Blackhawks add the most mileage to their schedule this year, clocking in at 12,180 more than last year. Heh.
Vegas travels 42,128 miles this year, which is right around the league average.
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:07 pm

Cool data, thank you for sharing. Some of the older linked articles are great too. Long season and a lot of miles!
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:03 pm

airzona11 wrote:
Cool data, thank you for sharing. Some of the older linked articles are great too. Long season and a lot of miles!

It's a great blog, I follow them on Twitter @AMSTS and they're good on Twitter too
 
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Re: How far each MLB team will fly in 2018

Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:07 pm

Really fascinating about this even if you are not a baseball fan.

Although I would be interested in how they would cope with a proposed demonstration match in London next year (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... urope-2019) as the NFL has been doing over the last few years at Wembley. :stirthepot:

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