Ok, im going to sound off about AF. Sorry.
Air France lost an A340-200 to a fire in Paris, Concorde in 2000, two 747-200's (freighters) i think both in india, and they nearly became the first airline to lose a next generation 747 (was that in india too?) either way, not a very good safety record is it? considering they are supposed to be one of the top airlines in the world, and a very prestigious flag carrier....
! I mean you could fly Virgin or BA or Qantas or Cathay and know that you would be safer, so why do people still choose to fly AF? Ive flown Air France and their service was rude and standoffish as soon as they saw i was english anyway, so i dont like them for that...I flew LHR - CDG, and the flight was so bad i demanded a refund for the rude and arrogant service, and took the TGV to Marseilles instead (which was very nice )
What are your thoughts on this?
I know the safety facts may not be 100% accurate, as i havent had the chance to check them on the airdisaster site, but the post is based on the personal view. Whenever i think Air France i think of a safety record, a laissez faire attitude to passenger service and a dont care/get lost attitutde to English people. Its a bit sad really....Why do the french hate us so much? I mean they wont eat our beef under the stupid pretence of being worried about CJD, but shovel their own beef down their throats with even greater gusto. When i worked for P&O Portsmouth, the British registered ship had a crew of 180 odd, and some twenty odd were French, as they applied for the jobs, and were given the same chance as the British applicants (we had south africans, aussies, scots, finns, and a german as i recall). But as soon as a British person applied for a job with French ferry company Brittany, the French Seamens union went on strike immediately, and the Brit had to be got rid of. I just think its all a bit sad really. We are all part of this Euro thing together so why do they not like us? I dont mind french people actaully, and find them to be nice on the whole. I speak french and whenever i do, the french person im speaking to thinks im scum because my french isnt perfect. But they wont speak english, or even make an effort, as with the Air France staff when i flew with them. They just plain didnt like us, and ignored us. The french people on the floght got all the smiles and greetings, but the english didnt. Thats all very well, but when French or Germans or anyone else fly BA, ive never seen them get treated with anything other than utter respect and smiling graciousness indicative of our great and illustrious flag carrier... We treat them the same, and it would be highly unprofessional to do anything else, but Brits get a real bummer deal on Air France. Im not being nationalistic, becasue i regularly fly with Lufthansa, Swissair (sob sob) SAS, etc, and am always treated very well on these airlines. It seems that on Air France i get treated as a second class citizen, despite the business class ticket! I wouldnt mind if i was english but i'm not! Im welsh! Its not like i was a lagered up England football fan (it was a midweek flight :>)Im not being xenophobic, and please dont flame me for this, because i'd just like to know if anyone else has noticed it, or am i just being over sensitive?
I have flown long haul once with them, from Paris CDG to EWR on an A340, and the service was the same, if not worse, as it was a much longer flight, and i was in the cheap seats. I wasnt asked "Du Poulet ou Le Bouef?" The FA just slapped the chicken down in front of me. I was goign to complain, but then realised asking for the beef was a bit of a joke coming from a Brit! The FA's were all upturned lips, and disdainful scowls. I vowed not to fly them again, and made a special effort to sleep all through the return flight so i didnt have to listen to it. They are nice as pie to the french passengers, and i even saw a few second helpings of food given out, with a smile, though when i asked for a vodka and tonic she was like "Tonic?" Come on. You are a Flight Attendant. Its not bloody rocket science is it?
When i asked for a newspaper she said, no and walked off. I followed her and asked her why not, and she said that they only had Du Monde, and that i wouldnt like it.
THAT was really insulting. I am a 22 year old trainee Shipping Underwriter-i was wearing a suit, and she should not speak to me like that! I aksed for it anyway, and she started laughing. I took the paper and retired to my seat. The seat wasnt bad, and the plane was clean. Food was passable but not a patch on UK or US carriers across the pond (BA has the best economy class food in my experience though United are pretty close).
So, my grouch over, i would like to ask, does anyone else from the UK find AF patronising, rude, arrogant, standoffish and purposely unhelpful? Ive flown Corsair and they were OK: it just seems to be AF.
Let me know guys....
PS: May i just address any French Users of the forum?
This is not me having a go at you guys, and i like french people ok, its my gripe at AF and not a jingoistic swipe at you, our continental cousins, ok? Its nothing personal, so please dont take it the wrong way, ok?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???