sushka
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Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 1:33 am

Right now Im working on my PPL and in a couple of years I will be getting a commercial rating. I was wondering if anybody knows of some small airlines that hire pilots with only around 300 hours. Im just trying to know in advance
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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 2:05 am

Nope, they don't. Especaily not in this environment. IN general you get vaugely competitive around 1,000 hours with at least 100 multi, though particular airlinle requirements vary. After 1,500/250 you can begin looking at legitimate regional carriers and after 3,000 you can start looking at the majors. These are of course VERY rough ballpark numbers.

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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 2:43 am

I'd agree with that.

Most of the pilots that were hired with less than 500 hours were in a timeframe where the majors were hiring like hotcakes and the regionals couldn't replace the pilots fast enough.

Things have dramatically changed.

I think you're going to see the average qualifications of the regional new hires swing to at least 1200 to 1500 hours until the majors resume hiring.

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sushka
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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 3:55 am

Hi thanks for the answers, but I meant a very small airline flying Cessna 310's etc. This is mainly because I dont want to stick around as a flight instructor at college once I graduate.  Smile
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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 4:24 am

The answer is still no. Why don't you want to be a flight instructor? You might....if you were really lucky....get a job flying 207's through the Grand Canyon or towing banners or pipeline patrol. These jobs are pretty rare and require being in the right place at the right time and knowing the right people.
 
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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 4:28 am

Ok so it is pretty rare then.  Sad
How did you guys find an airline then? Where did you get the experience?
thanks
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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 4:34 am

Well, I didn't  Smile I'm just on my way out for a x-country to work on my commercial (LAF-ASW?). After that I'll probably flight instruct. However out last graduating class was mostly hired by regionals, however this is very rare. Purdue (where i attend) has had very good luck with placement due to reputation and some donated sims. Previous grads have gone directly to 2nd seat in turboprops or flown sideways on RyanAir 727s, but in the industry this is very rare. It also doesn't look like it will be happening for a few more years.

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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 4:41 am

Doug_Or, how many flight hours do the students graduate with?
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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 5:35 am

It depends. My instructor last year (students have oppurtunity to instruct) graduated with around 800 i believe, with a large amount of that being from instructing over the summer between junior and senior years and instructing here at Purdue. Of that i believe less than 50 was multi time. I beleive if you go through the program and do no extra flying or instructing you just basicly get enough for the commercail license 250, and then a couple extra in the king air.
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RE: Airlines For Commercial Rated Pilots

Tue Mar 05, 2002 7:19 am

My advice, get the CFI. Even if you never intend to use it, it looks good. Instruct while networking for a job you might rather have. I wasn't exactly keen on instructing however after being hired by my university during my junior year I realized that it was a flying job. I learned to love teaching things to students and there is no better way to meet prople and network than by instructing. It lead to several co-pilot jobs that lead to a regional airline a few weeks after graduation. If I had avoided instruction entirely I would not have had the opportunity to fly King Airs and Navajo's due to the requirements for those jobs including a CFI/MEI. Why did they require a CFI? The chief pilot said it showed dedication to the profession to have a CFI license. At the airline I work for, a CFI/CFII/MEI will get you through the door a hell of a lot quicker than several hundred hours of rented twin time. One can argue all day as to which is more important to the job, but the fact is more regionals like candidates that are "working" in the industry. Make your life easier, get the CFI. I know I sound like I'm preaching but I just told my wife the very same thing. She doesn't really want to get it either but expects the same company that hired me to fly co-pilot in a King air to let her fly right seat as well. I told her to persue the CFI rating while she waits for calls to fly right seat. I hope she listens to me as right now she thinks I'm stupid.
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