Very interesting to see what actual G4 pilots are saying over at APC. They are pretty-uniform. Examples:
"I wonder if the unexpected resignation our union chairman has any relation to this. Especially after 1224 [the national union] sends out an email nearly taking credit for the story because of the **** they stirred up during our contract fight. Wasn't CB closely involved in all that?"
"I didn’t read it as trying to take credit. It seems to be an attempt to mitigate anger directed at the local for employing this TAMC [Teamster Aircraft Mechanics Coalition] tactic. [Referring to a report commissioned by the Teamsters 3 years ago to flog the airline by calling it unsafe during contract negotiations.] Many were uneasy with this when it was happening and are going to be pretty upset if this torpedo turns around and hits us 18 months after the battle ended."
[A union press release at the time said the following, for example: "“In conversations with some of the pilots, it became evident that they are forced to fly aircraft that barely passes acceptable safety standards,” the report concludes. “This situation creates a troubling norm where the ‘just move the metal’ culture could be a precursor to a serious accident.”]
"I think the G4 union should condemn him [Dan Wells, the head of the national union] in a statement. Total misrepresentation of our MX control and how they interact with pilots....
Maybe an exemption could have happened but definitely not the rule!
Our union leaders should not be throwing gas on the fire with inaccurate statements to the press.
He should resign immediately."
"I agree. Back in the day, we used to say you never play the safety card except as the last resort. Because once you play it, you can't pick it back up. [...] But yes, I too was uneasy with it then, and now it looks like it's going to bite us in the ass. What has me scratching my head is why 3 years later."
"I second that motion. Who the hell is he to speak on behalf of Allegiant pilots? He flies for a different airline."
"Much of that hit piece was outdated, inaccurate or misleading. Our Airbus fleet is newer than United or Delta’s. They gave an inaccurate fleet count of Airbus vs MD80’s. The mention of aborted takeoffs and unscheduled landings needs to be put in context. Neither one is necessarily dangerous. I would argue that a low speed abort can frequently be the safest course of actions. This is just another lame attempt by the media to generate ratings by scaring the crap out of the public. I have never felt unsafe flying an Allegiant aircraft and I routinely put my family and friends on us."
"I’ve never had an emergency in 4 years here. I never had any fuel emergencies either. I’m assuming your referencing the Fargo incindent. Weak dude, really weak. Major issues are rare here."
"Many of us came from the regionals. They are way worse. Anyone remember the Expressjet plane that sat on the ramp all night in Rochester MN with a plane full of passengers? The crew was too stupid to deplane and Continental ops botched that whole situation. I seem to recall Colgan taking a brand new plane and planting it in someone’s back yard. PSA did their best to try to run off the side of a mountain in Charleston WV. I can keep going but I won’t. Regionals are way more dangerous than Allegiant. Enjoy your 4 day with your FO who has 1000 hours and was at UND 3 months ago."
"All this outrage and panic created by this 60 Minutes story (which I haven't and probably will not watch) really does not phase me. I know my company is VERY different from what it was back when this investigation was going on. With that said, I'll just wait fpr the stock to drop (as I imagine it will) to about $120-130 and buy as much as I can. People have always had short term memory and, regardless of what the segment said, will eventually come back due to competitive ticket prices. That's just my 2 cents."https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/alle ... -turn.html
(Some of the first few pages was dealing with a nasty troll that has infected APC.)