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SAS 737-600

Tue Mar 05, 2002 7:48 am

Do SAS still have their Boeing737-600's?
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Tue Mar 05, 2002 7:50 am

Yes
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RE: SAS 737-600

Tue Mar 05, 2002 8:19 am

Oh yes, they have an almost 50 strong fleet of 736s, 73Gs and 738s, mostly 736s, all new.

To a large extent they replaced the former DC-9 fleet. SAS operated up to 61 DC-9s during the last 34 years.

The last SAS DC-9 made its last SAS renenue flight on 7th January this year making its 70,014th landing. And then it was sold and will probably fly many more years on another continent.

Had it not been for the new noise rules in Europe from 1st April, then who knows when the SAS DC-9 would have retired?

If the SAS 737NGs prove equally successful as the DC-9 (and why shouldn't they), then they should retire from SAS in year 2032.

In the meantime a load of SAS MD-80s will retire and be replaced by much more new 737NGs and A321s. But those MD-80 may still last many years.

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RE: SAS 737-600

Tue Mar 05, 2002 8:50 am

My sister who works for SAS as a FA told me, maybe a year or maybe even longer ago that SAS really wasn't that excited about the 736 anymore and that they wanted to replace them by the A320. It seems as if they have solved the problems they had with it since I havn't heard anything about an order for Airbus besides the A321.
I really wanna fly on those birds once! I once was booked on a 736 from FRA to ARN but the flight was cancelled so I had to fly on a MD-80...

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RE: SAS 737-600

Tue Mar 05, 2002 3:35 pm

I flew on a SAS 736 this past weekend and I wasn't that impressed. There was a report here earlier that SAS wasn't happy with the 736 because it is unstable in cruise and I thought it was obvious that this is true.

I also flew a Dash 8-Q400 and while it was not as spacious as the 736, it was much more stable in cruise.
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Tue Mar 05, 2002 7:01 pm

SAS have many B737's in different versions.

SAS have ordered A340 and A321, and some time agor there were some speculations that SAS would replace the B737 with Airbus aircraft in order to get a more Airbus fleet. Lufthansa operates Airbus and is SAS closest partner.

check out this link:
http://www.sasflightops.com
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:05 am

SAS ordered the 737NG's to replace all of their DC-9's. But when they decide to eventually replace their MD-80's, I wouldn't be suprised to see an A320 order...
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:12 am

Any word on how the Dash 8-Q400 currently performs? Have heardthat they still have a number of problems with them.

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RE: SAS 737-600

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:34 am

the -400 is still having pretty nasty dispatch reliability problems, as the fact of the matter is, they just aren't very well built/designed a/c. Though from what I've heard its a godd ride with great fuelburn. (this is all second hand information from magazines and QX people)
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RE: SAS 737-600

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:47 am

SAS operates the 737-600 into Prague...I see it now and then...great looking plane...I really want to fly one, but i have no excuse to go to Scandinavia, despite the fact that I would love to.  Sad
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:48 am

I have never been on SAS or thier Gorgeous 736. I do hope to see more airlines aquiring the 736, my personal favourite 737.

-Are SAS happy with the Cargo hold of the 736?

-I heared that one of the main reasons SAS went for A321 was that they were unhappy with that cargo hold of the 738, any info on that?


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RE: SAS 737-600

Wed Mar 06, 2002 7:30 am

There will be definitely no new orders from SAS regarding the 736.It turns out to be a lot more expensive to operate than expected,being very close to the DC-9-41 that it replaced when it comes to fuel consumption per seat/kilometer.
The combination of a wing with a span longer than the length of the fuselage and an inadequate yaw damper results in poor flight characteristics in cruise,especially if there is just the slightest hint of turbulence.Many passengers and even flight attendants have been airsick,some of the latter have been flying for 23 years without being sick.Now they can be sick for up to 4-5 times a year!
There are also great costs with maintenance of the whole 73NG fleet in SAS.Main problem is corrosion in the main gear wheel wells since there are no main gear doors to cover the well during operation in wet and slush conditions.
There were plans to start replacing the MD-80's from 2004,but this will now start in 2006-7 at the earliest,more likely than not the replacements will be various versions of the Airbus narrowbodies.The palletized baggage holds on the Airbus are a lot more practical than the 73NG's,and one of the reasons SAS chose the A321 instead of the 739.
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:20 pm

Two MD-87 out of operation March 2002.
LN-RMX and LN-RMY is now out of SAS operation. RMY is going to operate for Aereomexico in the future. New reg.no. will be N216AM.
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:42 pm

They pass my office window several times a day with the 737-600
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:48 pm

Yes, tyvärr*! unfortunately*
It´s too cramp for pax and one to many smoke-alarms in the cabin
Ggrrrrrrrr.......

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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:53 pm

They really are uncomfortable on cruise. I flew their 736 from SVG-CPH and vice versa, also from OSL to SVG, and all flights, I felt that mother nature was playing with the plane, throwing the tail back and forth up and down. Probably the worst plane I've ever flown on.

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heisan67
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 6:58 pm

But there are two windows in the lavatory in the forward part of the cabin....nice touch!
 
heisan67
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 7:13 pm

But that dont help on the flying comfort.....who cares if there are windows on the lavatory when puicking due to air sickness..
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 7:42 pm

I have to say that this is new to me. Actually all my flights on SAS 736s has been as comfortable as on any other SAS aircraft (I fly with SAS at least twice every week). There might have been slight turbulence now and then, but nothing that has made me aware of anything unnormal going on. I have never seen anyone being sick due to turbulence on a 736 nor have I heard anyone complain about the aircraft. Of course I might just be one lucky guy, but I find it hard to believe that I should be the only one to 'miss all the fun'!
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 8:17 pm

I thought it was due to Boeings slow delivery of the 737NG's that caused SAS to go to Airbus for its new planes.
If I remember correct, SAS placed some orders with Boeing before the Airbus orders were placed, and those planes haven't been delivered yet!
 
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:10 pm

I flew on SAS 737-600 from Stockholm to Moscow last year and did not find them uncomfortable in any way.
Not many other european operators of the 600 series so was glad to get a trip on one,
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:21 pm

SAS didn't order the Airbus A321 because they where unhappy about the cargo hold in the B738, because they don't fly on the same routes. The B738 are mostly used for domestic flights and the A321 is used for European flights and in the triangle EKCH-ESSA-ENGM.
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RE: SAS 737-600

Fri Mar 15, 2002 9:21 pm

I've flown on them alot, and I like them! Only problem is that when I sit by the window, the top of the window is so low, I have to really bend down to be able to look out. But I guess it's the same on most aircraft..
My current altitude record was in a SAS 736, FL 410 on a flight BRU-ARN.

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RE: SAS 737-600

Sat Mar 16, 2002 12:42 am

All in all, the DC9s are real workhorses!

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