Lekky-Man
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All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Tue Mar 05, 2002 11:31 pm

If you collect registrations, do you think it's fair, or not, to 'dot spot' airways aircraft, then find out what they were (possibly) and then mark them off?
I was wondering what people thought because I've always thought unless you "read" the reg off, you cannot be 100% sure - or can you? Please tell!!

Cheers,
LM
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:00 am

I do alot of dot spotting.I get the callsign of the plane I see,then use ACARS to get the reg.By doing this Ive seen most of the LH,AF,SN,SR,OS long haul fleets without leaving LHR!
Alex
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:03 am

Donder10....What software do you use to view ACARS on-line and what is the cost, if any?

Thanks.
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donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:25 am

Hi Dripstrick,
I dont have it myself but there are several yahoo groups where members have ACARS and produce logs.Its about 90 UK pounds so about $220C or so.Bascially it will log the regs of all aircraft that have ACARS too which is like 95% of the modern aicraft in the sky.Please ask away,
Alex
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:31 am

Aah, but do you have your JMC fleet yet? They don't appear to send ACARS messages (nor apparently do Britannia or Monarch - the smaller stuff - and I've yet to see a BRT ERJ145 come up!). If you see these, I may be able to furnish the relevant registration (assuming they bother to talk to their ops frequency!)

David/MAN
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:37 am

Nor do Alitalia or BMI David  Big grin Which makes the Alitalia tieups a pain!
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:39 am


Don't remind me about bmi...all they say is how many minutes away there are from touchdown and get the gate assignment!

David
 
Lekky-Man
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:42 am

I was after your opinions - is it a fair way of doing it, and can you be 100% certain ACARS is correct, and if so, how?

LM
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:43 am

I saw G-WWBM in LHR last summer. I need G-MIDC of their 32X fleet which I think was leased to somone like Air 2k last year
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:44 am

I think ACARS is 100% because the reg comes from the plane's own computer system.May be wrong though
 
Lekky-Man
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 12:54 am

Where/How do I get hold of ACARS, and what exactly is it?

LM
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 2:26 am

Hi LM,
ACARS is basically a flashy fax machine.Are you a member of yahoo by the way?If you are ill send you some invites to yahoo groups where people post ACARS logs daily.Quite a few logs from your neck of the woods
!
 
rw774477
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 2:30 am

http://www.lhr-lgw.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/euroacars/euroindex.html

this site posts Monthly ACARS info a few days after the end of each month. I can then check the a/c I've seen while commuting on the Turnpike.

rw774477
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 2:32 am

However,the ACARS on that only goes up at the end of the month.On yaho groups you can get ACARS logs at the end of the day
 
rw774477
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 2:42 am

what's the link ?

do yo uneed to subscribe ( $$$ ) or just join a club ?

rw774477
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 2:46 am

Its completely free.All you need is a yahoo account!However,90% of the logs are from the UK,but I guess alot of flights go over Newark at high altitude from Europe heading to Southern US.
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 2:54 am

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/civil-spotters
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ottspotters/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UK-Overflights/

 
LJ
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 3:38 am

To get back to the original question. It's not entirely fair. Flying over Marana and then marking all aircrft down as seen is not the way I think it should be. Moreover as you don't know if the reg is really on it.

However, usually you can mark an aircraft as read due to the various information sources (mostly yahoogroups and specialised magazines). As long as the source is relaible I don't have a problem.

Regards
Laurens
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 6:54 am

Lj,
I only mark down the aicraft I actually see.I use my telescope to look up for the high altitude stuff once I hear them on the radio,and so I know their routing.
Over and around LHR there are a few routes.
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 10:11 am

Also, the Bradley Airport group posts ACARS on a regular basis.

Jeff
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 4:42 pm

Living near Renton Municipal Airport and seeing 737's and 757's right off the assembly line, I often cannot read the registration, so I will record the airline, type and date, and later find out what the aircraft is registered, usually from Bill Harms' "Commercial Jet Aircraft Census". This is more reliable, in my opinion, than the examples given above, because the specific aircraft is identifiable in most cases.
"So many planes; so little time..."
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 5:31 pm

If I can see the type and the airline I will ask a friend in ATC to check the reg for me. This for me is aircraft departing Macau or China. Macau arrivals and departures are not that high, about 6000 feet.

As for the crowds at the `row' that just spend the whole day looking for over flights, I find that a little silly.
 
Lekky-Man
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Wed Mar 06, 2002 7:22 pm

Hey Donder10,

Yep, I've got a Yahoo account:-

egbe_ops@yahoo.co.uk

What do ya reckon then?

It would be great if I could get a daily list when there are little or no clouds in the sky!!!

LM
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Thu Mar 07, 2002 1:09 am

LOL Daryl.I do that sometimes because if you're LHR reg then you might only be up to catch a handful of registrations.Over LHR are flights to DUB/shannon,arrivals for luton.cambridge,stansted and transatlantic stuff too!Gotta have your eyes awake  Big thumbs up

LM,ACARS logs will be produced come rain,sleet or the occasionly shine  Smile
 
donder10
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Thu Mar 07, 2002 3:30 am

LHR reg as in regular .
 
rw774477
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Sat Mar 09, 2002 2:31 pm

where can i get sk reg's into EWR ?

rw774477
 
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RE: All Spotters - Your Opinion Please

Sun Mar 10, 2002 12:05 am

where can i get SAS reg's into EWR ?

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