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Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:27 am

http://www.businessinsider.com/air-chin ... and-2018-6
Per the latest report in the link above, "State carrier Air China will resume regular flights between Beijing and Pyongyang on Wednesday, a company official said, with the resumption occurring at a time of improving relations between China and North Korea."

The airline now allows travelers to book tickets for the CA121 route of PEK-FNJ flying on Monday, Wednesday and Friday afternoons, its website showed.

Chinese sources show the schedule for the flights operated by B737 as follows:
CA121 PEK 13:25 FNJ 16:20
CA122 FNJ 17:20 PEK 18:15


Really good news. This would surely give a major boost to DPRK tourism
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:55 am

lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:34 am

Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!


China is NK's largest trading partner, and the flights probably serve traders and diplomats.
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:01 pm

Philippine747 wrote:
Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!


China is NK's largest trading partner, and the flights probably serve traders and diplomats.


Plus foreign visitors who are heading to North Korea. I think all international tours start in Beijing.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:17 pm

Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!

At least it seems like there are enough demand for them to run the route 3x weekly which iirc is even more than what they had before suspension
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:18 pm

Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!

Three 737s a week isn't exactly the Eastern Shuttle. Anyway have you been to NK? The Air Koryo flights are full every day. Or maybe you think they're all "actors"...?
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:36 pm

cedarjet wrote:
The Air Koryo flights are full every day.


Absolutely. On both flights I had last year the flights were nearly fully booked. A lot of Chinese people, many Korean people and a good number of western people (probably mostly tourists like me). So I believe a few more flights, especially with direct access to Air China/Star Alliance network will benefit NK and Air China.
 
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Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:37 pm

Blerg wrote:
Philippine747 wrote:
Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!


China is NK's largest trading partner, and the flights probably serve traders and diplomats.


Plus foreign visitors who are heading to North Korea. I think all international tours start in Beijing.


Don't they take Air Koryo on the official tours?
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Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:17 am

conaly wrote:
cedarjet wrote:
The Air Koryo flights are full every day.


Absolutely. On both flights I had last year the flights were nearly fully booked. A lot of Chinese people, many Korean people and a good number of western people (probably mostly tourists like me). So I believe a few more flights, especially with direct access to Air China/Star Alliance network will benefit NK and Air China.

Who's going to book a flight to DPRK directly instead of doing it via tour group?
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:58 am

Philippine747 wrote:
Don't they take Air Koryo on the official tours?


Depends on the travel agency. When I went there, my tour was planned to be on the Air China flight of that time, but I was able to choose Air Koryo as the departure times were quite similar. It would also haven been possible to do a flight on one airline each.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:53 am

Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!


Plenty of people, and commercial exchange. I understand that sitting the other side of the world wont allow you to know or understand some market regions, but at least not making statements with zero knowledge or before being educated would be appreciated.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:38 am

Jayafe wrote:
Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!


Plenty of people, and commercial exchange. I understand that sitting the other side of the world wont allow you to know or understand some market regions, but at least not making statements with zero knowledge or before being educated would be appreciated.


Not surprising, those who have never visited this part of the world always come up with their own theories while being ignorant to local economic facts. Both North and South Korea get a lot of Chinese tourists.

Might even get a little more uptick once the US State department lifts the travel ban to North Korea, Americans were just a few thousand visiting every year until the ban.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:50 am

Curious if Air China will become a future sanction target over that flight if things don't work out with rapprochement.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:09 am

Market demand is gonna book with 5 days notice? Lmfao.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:11 am

Lootess wrote:
Jayafe wrote:
Kashmon wrote:
lol market demand....

do people here actually believe Air China is not a mere prop of the Chinese government?!


Plenty of people, and commercial exchange. I understand that sitting the other side of the world wont allow you to know or understand some market regions, but at least not making statements with zero knowledge or before being educated would be appreciated.


Not surprising, those who have never visited this part of the world always come up with their own theories while being ignorant to local economic facts. Both North and South Korea get a lot of Chinese tourists.

Might even get a little more uptick once the US State department lifts the travel ban to North Korea, Americans were just a few thousand visiting every year until the ban.


This is so true especially as far as South Korea goes. I knew there were a lot of Chinese tourists but I didn't know there were that many. I remember when we landed at ICN there were at least six Chinese widebody aircraft. Unbelievable.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:12 am

Blerg wrote:
Lootess wrote:
Jayafe wrote:

Plenty of people, and commercial exchange. I understand that sitting the other side of the world wont allow you to know or understand some market regions, but at least not making statements with zero knowledge or before being educated would be appreciated.


Not surprising, those who have never visited this part of the world always come up with their own theories while being ignorant to local economic facts. Both North and South Korea get a lot of Chinese tourists.

Might even get a little more uptick once the US State department lifts the travel ban to North Korea, Americans were just a few thousand visiting every year until the ban.


This is so true especially as far as South Korea goes. I knew there were a lot of Chinese tourists but I didn't know there were that many. I remember when we landed at ICN there were at least six Chinese widebody aircraft. Unbelievable.

Like a billion ppl live in China.
 
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Re: Air China will resume regular flights to Pyongyang, citing market demand

Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:34 am

32andBelow wrote:
Blerg wrote:
Lootess wrote:

Not surprising, those who have never visited this part of the world always come up with their own theories while being ignorant to local economic facts. Both North and South Korea get a lot of Chinese tourists.

Might even get a little more uptick once the US State department lifts the travel ban to North Korea, Americans were just a few thousand visiting every year until the ban.


This is so true especially as far as South Korea goes. I knew there were a lot of Chinese tourists but I didn't know there were that many. I remember when we landed at ICN there were at least six Chinese widebody aircraft. Unbelievable.

Like a billion ppl live in China.


Like so what? Look at India. Every year around 5.4 million of them travel abroad for holidays while 6.5 million Chinese went abroad just for their new year. So it's not just about the number of people that live in a certain country.

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