behramjee
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Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:39 am

Kuwait Airways has officially published across all major GDS systems that it will be launching new nonstop services to MXP-Milan, Italy effective 29th October 2018.

Flights shall be flown 3 times per week using an A330-200 using the below mentioned published schedule:

*Local times below*

Days - MON THU SAT

KU 163 Dep KWI 0840 Arr MXP 1240
KU 164 Dep MXP 1400 Arr KWI 2125

Comments:

In 2017, the P2P demand between KWI and MXP was 15,000 round trip passengers. The route's schedule shows that it will be largely catering to transfer markets such as MNL, Indian Subcontinent, Dubai and JED.

Cargo demand will be huge from all across the network but overall from a commercial perspective, it will be a struggle competing against the multiple daily services of TK, EK and QR + daily WY / EY.
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:17 am

They should continue on to JFK with 5th freedom rights just to make that route even MORE crowded :)
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:29 am

spinkid wrote:
They should continue on to JFK with 5th freedom rights just to make that route even MORE crowded :)


That's problematic. They used to offer 5th freedom flights between LHR and JFK. They had to stop selling tickets between JFK and LHR after a passenger with an Israeli passport demanded to be seated. The resulting lawsuit forced Kuwait Airlines to either allow Israelis or any other nationality of passengers fly between JFK and LHR or stop 5th freedom flights. Israeli passengers could be denied boarding at JFK to KWI, because Kuwait doesn't allow Israeli passport holders to enter Kuwait.
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:39 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
spinkid wrote:
They should continue on to JFK with 5th freedom rights just to make that route even MORE crowded :)


That's problematic. They used to offer 5th freedom flights between LHR and JFK. They had to stop selling tickets between JFK and LHR after a passenger with an Israeli passport demanded to be seated. The resulting lawsuit forced Kuwait Airlines to either allow Israelis or any other nationality of passengers fly between JFK and LHR or stop 5th freedom flights. Israeli passengers could be denied boarding at JFK to KWI, because Kuwait doesn't allow Israeli passport holders to enter Kuwait.


That's a common mistake! Kuwait airways made the decision to stop all 5th freedom flights even ones between Muslim countries 1 year ahead the Israeli passenger issue! It was announced by KU's chairwoman at early 2015 that due to pressure from The State Audit Bureau all 5th freedom flights will be dropped you can google it and check the dates! Though most of the articles online in Arabic.
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:01 pm

Monty1988 wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
spinkid wrote:
They should continue on to JFK with 5th freedom rights just to make that route even MORE crowded :)


That's problematic. They used to offer 5th freedom flights between LHR and JFK. They had to stop selling tickets between JFK and LHR after a passenger with an Israeli passport demanded to be seated. The resulting lawsuit forced Kuwait Airlines to either allow Israelis or any other nationality of passengers fly between JFK and LHR or stop 5th freedom flights. Israeli passengers could be denied boarding at JFK to KWI, because Kuwait doesn't allow Israeli passport holders to enter Kuwait.


That's a common mistake! Kuwait airways made the decision to stop all 5th freedom flights even ones between Muslim countries 1 year ahead the Israeli passenger issue! It was announced by KU's chairwoman at early 2015 that due to pressure from The State Audit Bureau all 5th freedom flights will be dropped you can google it and check the dates! Though most of the articles online in Arabic.


So why then did they even bother fighting the lawsuit in court? It would have been cheaper to have settled out of court and just shut down all 5th freedom flights quietly.
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:15 pm

flyingclrs727 wrote:
Monty1988 wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:

That's problematic. They used to offer 5th freedom flights between LHR and JFK. They had to stop selling tickets between JFK and LHR after a passenger with an Israeli passport demanded to be seated. The resulting lawsuit forced Kuwait Airlines to either allow Israelis or any other nationality of passengers fly between JFK and LHR or stop 5th freedom flights. Israeli passengers could be denied boarding at JFK to KWI, because Kuwait doesn't allow Israeli passport holders to enter Kuwait.


That's a common mistake! Kuwait airways made the decision to stop all 5th freedom flights even ones between Muslim countries 1 year ahead the Israeli passenger issue! It was announced by KU's chairwoman at early 2015 that due to pressure from The State Audit Bureau all 5th freedom flights will be dropped you can google it and check the dates! Though most of the articles online in Arabic.


So why then did they even bother fighting the lawsuit in court? It would have been cheaper to have settled out of court and just shut down all 5th freedom flights quietly.


The case was filed against them so they had to go to court! They never said or mentioned even once they were dropping the 5th freedom flights because of it! They even denied it many times when asked!
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:26 am

Monty1988 wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
Monty1988 wrote:

That's a common mistake! Kuwait airways made the decision to stop all 5th freedom flights even ones between Muslim countries 1 year ahead the Israeli passenger issue! It was announced by KU's chairwoman at early 2015 that due to pressure from The State Audit Bureau all 5th freedom flights will be dropped you can google it and check the dates! Though most of the articles online in Arabic.


So why then did they even bother fighting the lawsuit in court? It would have been cheaper to have settled out of court and just shut down all 5th freedom flights quietly.


The case was filed against them so they had to go to court! They never said or mentioned even once they were dropping the 5th freedom flights because of it! They even denied it many times when asked!


Companies settle lawsuits all the time out of court. It often costs much less than going to court especially in the US.
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:47 am

KU will not in the future operate to North America via Europe with 5th freedom due to the reasons mentioned above by a few here already.

Once the new KWI airport terminal is properly functioning, it is expected to undergo another TSA audit to enable finally KWI-JFK nonstop services thus taking out the current SNN layover.
 
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Re: Kuwait Airways announces Milan

Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:34 am

How is it differentt to the US ban on nationals of some countries? originally all Muslim.

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