720B
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Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:16 am

As per flight global , the proposed United - Avianca joint venture would become a 3 way partnership with the addition of Copa airlines

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... it-451009/
 
OGLOBAL
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:35 am

i don't understand how is this legal ... or how both Copa and Avianca are both in star alliance ..
 
mwearley
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:03 am

720B wrote:
As per flight global , the proposed United - Avianca joint venture would become a 3 way partnership with the addition of Copa airlines

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... it-451009/
There were three US airlines in Star at the same time: CO, UA, and US.
 
winGl3t
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:04 pm

mwearley wrote:
720B wrote:
As per flight global , the proposed United - Avianca joint venture would become a 3 way partnership with the addition of Copa airlines

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... it-451009/
There were three US airlines in Star at the same time: CO, UA, and US.


US is a huge market with plenty of competition.
Latin America (especially Central America) depends largely on Copa and Avianca to travel.
 
klakzky123
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:14 pm

OGLOBAL wrote:
i don't understand how is this legal ... or how both Copa and Avianca are both in star alliance ..


Alliances aren't anti-trust immune arrangements. The actual interline agreements and proposed codeshares between carriers is what is evaluated by DOT. So there's nothing preventing this. Skyteam has China Southern and China Eastern for example.

This would still have to go under anti-trust review in Panama, Colombia, and the US and all three regulators would have to agree to waive anti-trust rules in each country. But I do agree, this should be closely scrutinized by regulators. At the very least, they need to assign the 5 year review clause like the DL-Aeromexico JV has.
 
pipeafcr
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:11 pm

I wonder how this will affect the AV-LH JV that is also brewing
Felipe Carrillo
 
geoshina
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Fri Aug 10, 2018 6:43 pm

On the other side you have JV with AA and LA (which is also huge)
 
Kilgen
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:45 pm

OGLOBAL wrote:
i don't understand how is this legal ... or how both Copa and Avianca are both in star alliance ..


Both UA and CM already have anti trust immunity.

CM used to be in Skyteam with CO. During the merger with UA, CO joined Star Alliance, UA and CO sponsored CM and LH sponsored AV.
 
LightChop2Chop
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Re: Copa joins JV talks with Avianca and United

Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:49 pm

get out your popcorn. this will get interesting.

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