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NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Tue Mar 12, 2002 11:17 am

Nice... How long will this last.. The Traverse City airport manager hates 727's as they are hard on the runways. His exact words. I guess hes right... Its just a cheap 707. (3 engines vs 4 engines). It wont be long till we finally see an A320! I feel it!

NW 1993 will operate as a 727 from DTW-TVC from June 7th for the summer for added capacity.

Arriving at 12:59pm.

 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Mar 13, 2002 2:28 am

When is NW retiring its last 727 I thought is was before summer. I think they only have 14 left, If they do retire them mid summer you probley would see the A320 to replace it. What other a/c does NW fly into TVC in the summer months.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Mar 13, 2002 6:49 am

Passenger service 727s will be gone by the end of the year. 14 will be retained for the lucrative charters than NW does for the NBA and NHL.




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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Mar 13, 2002 8:06 am

TVC gets Saab 340's, CRJ's, ARJ's, and various models of the DC-9. This is a first for NW operating the 727 into TVC, at least as far back as I know.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Thu Mar 14, 2002 10:21 am

NW served TVC with 727-200's.... LOL.. Charters. Never scheduled. Only once that I know of did NW replace a scheduled DC9-50 with with a 727-200... It was only for show during the evening Stardust "airshow" at the airport. This is very good news for those of us that would like to see other aircraft besides the DC9's in TVC. This will ultimately open the door for at least summertime A320's in the future. NW serves TVC year round, although more flights are added in the summer obviously.

I also recieved a letter reply from Comair about serving TVC. They stated they are keeping a close eye on the market and to look for CRJ service to CVG in the future. If that goes over well, it was stated that ASA will be added with service to ATL. Possibly even summertime mainline Delta.



 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Thu Mar 14, 2002 1:24 pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see Comair start flying CVG-TVC...I've always wondered why they didn't start this route before.

I wouldn't count on seeing DL mainline anytime soon. DL is becoming more and more picky where they send mainline and they have fewer and fewer mainline planes to work with. In fact in the whole state of Michigan, the only airport to receive mainline service is DTW.

 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Mon Mar 18, 2002 11:14 am

Yea, TVC will not see mainline DL until the new terminal is open... Summer 2004 at the earliest.

AND IT WOULD ONLY BE SEASONAL ANYWAY....
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Mon Mar 18, 2002 11:44 am

tvc is not going to see a sked airbus for quite a while...plan on seeing less sf3's and more crj's...dc9-50's will be the staple of tvc for the future..sorry
BAE 146 ARJ CV-580 YS-11 SH360 DASH8 SAAB340 EMB 120-135-145-175 DC9/10/30/40/50 MD80/90 DC10 717 727 737 747 757 767 77
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:25 am

I beg to differ. If this 72R has good loads this summer, and the 727-200 is retired soon... TVC will see A320's.

I wish I could bet you... You would lose.  Big grin
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:31 am

Whooooa, I didn't know NWA was getting rid of the 727 this year also! I know AA is at the end of next month. Maybe I can get on the last flight of this one also, any dates set?
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Tue Mar 26, 2002 11:40 am

Sorry Maiznblu-Favre is right on this one...TVC will NOT see a scheduled Airbus...like he said they will get DC-9-50's...727 service won't last too long up there, maybe one scehdule.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Tue Mar 26, 2002 12:07 pm

Maiznblu... its a pretty sacked up type bet if you want to bet with a NW insider as to what's going on in his company... that's like me betting with you that Mesaba has a new training center in Eagan. I know for a fact we do and even if you knew, you didn't know it for a fact.

Take your odds to Vegas... you might do quite well. For the house that is...



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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sat Mar 30, 2002 12:31 pm

Duh, they will last one schedule.. Your right on! NW will fly the 727-200 into TVC for the busy summer season. Oh yea, well see the A320 within the next couple years in TVC. At least scheduled summer service. Its quite possible the 727 will be replaced now and then with an A320 this summer. Yea, for the record, on the ramp here, it says A319/A320 on the parking lines already. So, who wants to bet?

 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sun Mar 31, 2002 3:35 am

Just because there are lines for parking airbii on the ground, doens't mean, that NW is going to serve the market with that aircraft! Have you heard of diversions? TVC is a good place as an alternate airport if say manybe an airbus needs to divert.

Still willing to bet Favre knows what he's talking about...



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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Mon Apr 01, 2002 2:15 am

AZjubilee... Get off Farve's nuts already... You need to give him a break now and then.. Your always on them.

 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Mon Apr 01, 2002 4:26 am

TVC will see Airbus aircraft when the new terminal is completed. Just because he works for NW doesnt mean nathan.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Mon Apr 01, 2002 11:40 am

THERE WILL NEVER BE AIRBUS SERVICE IN TVC..maybe diversions only...MBS has lines for 757 and Airbus A/C too, but they have a better shot at an Airbus than TVC does...
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:12 am

I've flown in and out of TVC a fewtimes and seen the lines. I've also seen lines at other airports for DC10s, 747s, etc. It desn't mean they have or will have any service, its as stated, for diversions, charters, or some other uniue situation. TVC will probably get Airbuses one day, just not soon. The bus has long range so it makes sense to use it on some o the longer flight and keep the larger DC9s, and 727s in their. Along ith Mesaba nd their Saabs and our CRJs to give people a number of time choices.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Apr 10, 2002 7:04 am

Youll see.... TVC will have scheduled A319/A320 in the next couple years. TVC has a better shot at seeing A320's scheduled IN THE SUMMER than LAN, MBS,GRB,AZO... Ya heard. It here. First.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Apr 10, 2002 8:23 am

OK...SURE...and TVC will get the first A-380 flight too right? I can see it now...TVC-CDG...or TVC-PEK....
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Apr 10, 2002 10:22 am

Oh my god, are you still hung up on this dude? Whatever you say... I'm sure you're an expert kid.
You know, you're right. Nobody has ever made a valid point here and as such you chose to not want to understand the realities in the business. Oh well...



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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Apr 10, 2002 10:25 am

When is the max age for a 727 to still operate?

Thanks

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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Apr 10, 2002 12:40 pm

Don't worry AZJ, this is the same guy who thinks Condor Flug is going to start 757 trans-Atlantic service into TVC from Germany.....sure......I'll bet we see your Airbus up there first...or maybe even a DC-10.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Wed Apr 10, 2002 1:20 pm

HAHA!! PSU... nice call. Say - I looked into emailing you but there is no email address in your profile... am I missing something?


Saab340: there is no predetermined time that an airline must stop operating a given a/c. Most intelliegent and businessminded airlines retire their planes when they no longer become efficient to operate. This means that when it becomes to expensive to maintain them, fuel them and staff them, they get rid of them.

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RE: Azjubilee

Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:19 am

Nobody has ever made a valid point here and as such you chose to not want to understand the realities in the business. Oh well...

Ummm, I made a valid point earlier... It is valid your all over Farves sack as well as numerous others. There is F/A18 Hornet squadron based out of NAS Lemoore... VF-94 Redcocks..... Their Motto... "You cant beat a redcock". Get a clue son.
 
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RE: Nothing But Doubters....

Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:27 am

Rolex! HAHAHAHA.

PSU.DTW.SCE..... The ghetto of State College Pennsylvania got you shady?

Anyhow, this is good timing.... Yall dont know nathan about TVC but sit back and judge. I aint got time for ya.

But, for the road, chack this.....

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020411/mnth022_1.html

Thursday April 11, 3:40 pm Eastern Time
Press Release
SOURCE: Northwest Airlines
Northwest Adds Larger Jets and More Flights to Traverse City for Summer Travel Season
Carrier Upgrading 4 Flights to Larger Aircraft and Adding Frequencies to One Of Michigan's Most Popular Vacation Destinations
MINNEAPOLIS, April 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ --

Northwest Airlines (Nasdaq: NWAC - news) today announced that it will operate larger aircraft and offer additional flights as part of its summer Traverse City schedule, developed to meet the needs of travelers to one of Michigan's most popular vacation destinations. In total, the changes will result in Northwest offering an additional 269 seats in the Traverse City market every day.

Starting May 1, Northwest will offer an additional frequency on both its Detroit-Traverse City and Minneapolis/St. Paul-Traverse City routes. The additional flights will create additional connecting opportunities to Traverse City from hundreds of destinations spanning the globe through Northwest's convenient hubs in Detroit and Minneapolis/St. Paul.

Both of the additional flights will be operated by Northwest Airlink partner, Mesaba Airlines, with the 34-passenger Saab 340 turbo-prop airliner.

In addition, Northwest announced that it would be upgrading existing Detroit-Traverse City flights to larger aircraft:


-- Effective May 1, one flight will be upgraded from a 34-passenger Saab
turbo-prop to a DC9-30, able to accommodate a total of 100 passengers
in Northwest's standard two-class configuration of 16 seats in First
Class and 84 seats in Coach Class.
-- Effective June 7, a third frequency will be upgraded from a DC9 to a
Boeing 727 with a capacity of 149 passengers, with 12 seats in First
Class and 137 seats in Coach Class.
-- Effective July 1, another flight will be upgraded from a 50-passenger
Canadair regional jet to a DC9, able to accommodate a total of 100
passengers in Northwest's standard two-class configuration.


The airline also announced summer upgrades from turbo-prop aircraft to jets on its Minneapolis/St. Paul-Traverse City flights:

-- Effective June 10, the evening Minneapolis-Traverse City and morning
Traverse City-Minneapolis/St. Paul flights will be upgraded to a
DC9-30, with a capacity of 100 passengers in Northwest's standard
two-class configuration.
-- Effective June 8, the morning Minneapolis/St. Paul-Traverse City and
midday Traverse City-Minneapolis/St. Paul flights will be upgraded to
a 50-passenger Canadair Regional Jet (CRJ) on Saturdays.


The changes will ultimately add 2 additional flights for a grand total of 11 daily Northwest flights from Traverse City. The changes will also result in 3 additional jet flights for a total of 6 daily Northwest jet flights out of Traverse City. Northwest's summer Traverse City schedule is in effect through September 2, 2002.

In June, Northwest will open new regional aircraft gates at its Minneapolis/St. Paul hub, providing travelers with a seamless airport experience no matter what type of aircraft they fly. All Northwest customers will be able to transfer from flight to flight through fully enclosed jetbridges, eliminating the need to travel to their flight by bus and protecting them from the elements during the boarding and deplaning processes.

In February, Northwest opened its new ``WorldGateway'' at Detroit, ushering in a new standard in airport efficiency and convenience. Northwest's WorldGateway provides travelers with seamless, quick and easy connections to over 130 destinations worldwide. WorldGateway offers amenities such as fully integrated domestic and international arrivals and departures, and fully enclosed, climate controlled jetbridges for every type of aircraft it operates.

``Traverse City is rapidly becoming a hub for the northern Lower Peninsula, and I am pleased that Northwest is recognizing and aiding that growth with this expansion of service and these upgrades of aircraft,'' said Congressman Bart Stupak of Michigan. ``I also know -- from personal experience -- that travelers will appreciate the larger jets, and I know Northwest will be rewarded with a larger market share with these enhancements to their Traverse City-Detroit service.''

Northwest's summer Traverse City schedule is open for sale immediately. For reservations, customers can visit http://www.nwa.com , call Northwest Airlines Reservations at 1-800-225-2525 or contact their travel agent.

Northwest's summer Detroit -- Traverse City Schedule

Flight number: Departs: Arrives: Aircraft:
NW 1946 8:50 a.m. 9:50 a.m. DC9+
NW 992 11:58 a.m. 12:52 p.m. 727++
NW 3054 1:20 p.m. 2:39 p.m. SF3
NW 1407 3:14 p.m. 4:16 p.m. DC9**
NW 5918 5:15 p.m. 6:30 p.m. CRJ
NW 3215 7:30 p.m. 8:51 p.m. SF3
NW 393 9:16 p.m. 10:18 p.m. DC9


Northwest's summer Traverse City -- Detroit Schedule

Flight number: Departs: Arrives: Aircraft:
NW 493 7:00 a.m. 7:58 a.m. DC9
NW 3202 8:00 a.m. 9:32 a.m. SF3
NW 1943 10:10 a.m. 11:15 a.m. DC9+
NW 717 1:35 p.m. 2:36 p.m. 727++
NW 3077 2:30 p.m. 3:46 p.m. SF3
NW 499 5:05 p.m. 6:05 p.m. DC9**
NW 5919 6:55 p.m. 8:15 p.m. CRJ


Northwest's summer Minneapolis/St. Paul -- Traverse City Schedule

Flight number: Departs: Arrives: Aircraft:
NW 3070 10:40 a.m. 1:42 p.m. SF3*#
NW 2996 3:10 p.m. 6:12 p.m. SF3
NW 1978 6:46 p.m. 9:03 p.m. DC9


Northwest's summer Traverse City -- Minneapolis/St. Paul Schedule

Flight number: Departs: Arrives: Aircraft:
NW 411 7:45 a.m. 8:08 a.m. DC9
NW 3055 3:10 p.m. 4:07 p.m. SF3*#
NW 2722 6:55 p.m. 7:51 p.m. SF3


DC9=DC9-10, 30, 40 or 50. SF3=Saab 340 Turbo-prop. 727=Boeing 727.
CRJ=Canadair Regional Jet.
*New frequency operating May 1 - September 2, 2002.
**Upgrade to larger sized jet operating May 1 - September 2, 2002.
+Upgrade to larger sized jet operating July 1 - September 2, 2002.
++Upgrade to larger sized jet operating June 7 - September 2, 2002.
#Upgraded to a CRJ on Saturdays only.


Northwest Airlines is the world's fourth largest airline with hubs at Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, Memphis, Tokyo and Amsterdam and more than 1,400 daily departures. With its travel partners, Northwest serves nearly 750 cities in almost 120 countries on six continents.

SOURCE: Northwest Airlines







 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sat Apr 13, 2002 5:55 am

OK, this confirms the 727 and Dc9s like everyone had been saying. I still don't see anything on the Bus, yeah we will be flying more CRJs into their as well
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sat Apr 13, 2002 8:39 am

Yeah, State College is certainly a ghetto.....its hardcore here man....gotta watch out for all those hunters in pick up trucks.......Better than A2 though...(if you really are a MaizenBlue, then you know about that).....Btw, you know nathan about State College.

Just like I don't know anyone named Nathan in TVC. I do have many relatives in area, and my folks are going to be moving up that way in the next year or two. I'm not clueless about TVC. You can call me a troll if you'd like.

Fact: Favre has a credibility of about 100% go search through is old topics and you will see he has been right on about everything at NW....Maybe its because he works for them. You heard the word from him.

You can keep your hopes up about your Airbus and Condor 757 maybe if you write enough letters, but you're ignoring the fact of the matter and not listening to others in the know.
 
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RE: PSU.DTW.SCE

Sat Apr 13, 2002 10:18 am

Sorry Johan, have to vent a bit....

"Ghetto Got You Shady" was a term used in a song. I guess I should have just came out and said your shady. You bashed TVC in the past. I seem to remember you bashing it because it was "Getting to big". Then you were on my nuts for a bit, then I mention something about TVC seeing A320's in the future and you go right along with everyone else bashing. Your all mixed up. It really is rather simple. The A320 and 727 hold the same amount of people. If the 727's loads are good, in a couple years, the A320 will be coming to TVC.... Why????

1) The 727 holds 149 people and will be gone in a couple years.

2) The A320 holds 149 people, and is replacing the 727. The A320 is used on short routes as well as long routes. Look at GRR, CLE, MSN.... TVC has a better chance than all you haters would like to think.

Well, your parents are moving to TVC.... I guess they are contributing to your problem of "Traverse City getting to large" as you said a while back... Oh yea, here it is to refresh your memoirs... You can swing on these like a flying trapeez.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/590303/

 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:46 pm

Hey...FNT is also getting a 727 for the summer time. I don't hear them cackling about it. Oh....and FNT is also getting Chicago Express....looks like TVC will have to wait till next round before they get the announcement of service....or maybe ATA is thinking about serving...we'll just have to wait and see ;o)

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RE:727 Charters

Sat Apr 13, 2002 3:15 pm

as for keeping some 727's for charters, FACT; the NBA charters are ending. NW did not pick up the contract for the next season. As for the other charters i dought they will be using 727's anymore. This was from a message from Richard Anderson the C.E.O.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:32 am

what is all this talk about swinging on genitalia?? Thats messed up.

NW still has the NBA charters for next season, 2002-2003, then thats end of it when the 727's are retired from charter service next spring.
 
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RE:Flyinryan

Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:53 am

You from Toledo? Maybe you should worry about your airport.... Pretty sad you guys couldnt fill a Concorde BTW. TVC has a much better future than TOL with passenger airline service.... All you do is belly-ache about the lack of service TOL has. I mean, FNT is just as close to DTW as TOL and they get great service. Face it, your port authority could really care less if TOL grows.

At least you get freighters...  Big grin
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:45 am

TVC-ers...

Just curious....is the seasonal daily American Eagle Jungle Jet to LaGuardia still happening?

As to the future of TVC, growth is a given. Ten years ago, even during the season, NW only flew a one in one out DC-9 daily schedule. Last time I was in town there were multiple Nines on thre ground at once. Now the airline is bringing three holers in (twenty years too late for my spotting habits dammit!)...if it has use for a 727, how can you posasibly say an A-319 will NEVER be used?

And comparing TVC to MBS is pointless. Completely apples & oranges. TVC's vacation- only traffic in season likely equals MBS's total passenger numbers.

Be interesting to see CO examine the possibility of flights in and out of CLE.

Go Trojans!
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sun Apr 14, 2002 6:00 am

Favre works for NW.. and thus can pull up the schedule several months in advance. If he says so, and all the other NW/Airlink pilots say so... it is right.

Sorry Maizen blue.... no busses will be coming in there for a while. Maybe next year-but not this year.
Chicks dig winglets.
 
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RE: Maiz

Sun Apr 14, 2002 10:22 am

I would like proof as to how TVC has a much brighter future then TOL. TVC right now is just a summer get away place because you definitely see a peak in summer travel there. But look at your winter travel...it's kinda shady. TOL has fortune 500 companies that for the most part back flying out of the airport. It's pretty darn arrogant for you to think that your airport has a brighter future then another (let alone any airport over any other right now). The economic downturn is finally swinging the other way and the aftermath of 9/11 still isn't over yet. It's any body's call right now, the way I look at it.

The thing about the Concorde....it wasn't advertised. There were no articles in the paper, there were no billboards, no tv ads....anything. PA didn't even know about it till one of the airport employees brought it to their attention.

In TOL, we think realistically, like plausable routes and aircraft and airlines. We don't think Condor 757s will fly to Germany here...we'd rather think that AE E145s and Skywest CRJs will fly to DFW...get my drift?

Ryan
 
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RE: 99

Fri Apr 19, 2002 9:22 am

In TOL, we think realistically, like plausable routes and aircraft and airlines. We don't think Condor 757s will fly to Germany here...we'd rather think that AE E145s and Skywest CRJs will fly to DFW...get my drift?

I can dig that... You wouldnt see a Condor 757 in there. Why would they fly to TOL? I just wrote a letter to Condor and got a reply. It was more positive than I thought it would be. Bottom line.... When TVC's new terminal is open, we WILL see A320's from NW. We will also see Comair arrive and MidEx will come back, then we will see UAL 737' (seasonal). Well, were not at TOL's numbers now, but in a few years, you will be wishing TOL was getting the high numbers TVC is getting.

I am not arrogant, just looking at the future positively, and it is bright. Im not the one always cryin' about how TOL is this and TOL is that. In fact a lot of you all down there cry a lot.

That is all.  Big grin


 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Fri Apr 19, 2002 9:33 am

Heavymetal...

Yes, TVC will get the ERJ back on the weekends LGA-TVC on Friday, departing on Sunday. The aircraft operates ORD-TVC for the weekend. American Eagle will fly 6 ERJ's from ORD-TVC during the week and 8 on the weekends.

NW will also be operating 5-6 jets as well as a few Saabs on the DTW-TVC route depending on what day..

NW will be operating 2 Saabs and a DC9 on the MSP-TVC route, on Saturdays one of the Saabs is replaced with a CRJ.

In May, ACA will come in with 3 CRJ's daily, with Air Wisconsin operating 1.

Beginning in June Air Wisconsin will operate 4 BAE 146-100's on the ORD-TVC route.

American Eagle will fly 6 ERJ's from ORD-TVC during the week and 8 on the weekends.

Not bad.  Big grin



 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Fri Apr 19, 2002 12:52 pm

That would be cool IF TVC would get the 727... Even better if FNT could get them... Anyway, we'll see what pans out, but I'll stick with Favre on this unless proof otherwise comes up..

BTW- Welcome back Chad..

Chris
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Fri Apr 19, 2002 1:12 pm

Well, TVC IS getting the 727 for the summer schedule, thats fact.

FNT did get the 727 about two or three summers ago. On the 1:45pm departure, I remember being up there and seeing that once. Its been on the LAN run on occasions too. The 727's usually rotate around from schedule to schedule to better use capacity. Many of times, the inter-Michigan 727 flights are used a quick turn-around between other runs. For instance to send it out a quick out-and-back so it can go on a run down to Florida or places elsewhere on the next bank of departures.
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Fri Apr 19, 2002 10:57 pm

No more FNT, did that nightmare yesterday. Its way too shot, gear up and cleared for approach to 22R, Slow Down
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sat Apr 20, 2002 2:10 am

FNT is like MBS and AZO... not much time to switch gears from departure to appraoch mode in the brain. At 56 miles, I bet its quite a CF in the cockpit!


PSU - I emailed you, did you get it?


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RE: TOL / Maiz

Sat Apr 20, 2002 5:52 am

It is apparent you hate TOL for some weird reason.  Smile

Regardless, we are all here because we love aviation. We always wish the best for our local airports, because we want to see different types of airplanes and what not. Some of our dreams may be realistic, some may not be. One thing we shouldn't do, is attack one another or talk bad about another city, airline, etc....when we really don't know the whole story.

The Concorde did get cancelled from TOL yes. They filled a little over 20% of the seats. Why did it not work? People simply did not know about it. The travel agency ran one ad in the local paper in January and that was it. Nothing more was said since then. The only people that really knew about it were spotters and those already booked on it! You can't blame a city for not backing something when know one knew about it to begin with.  Smile

I hope you do get your Airbus into TVC, as I hope for many things at my local airport and everyone else at theres. A lot can happen between now and tomorrow. However, the future looks bright as the airlines should start turning the corner and get back into the black -- at least for the next quarter.

I would invite you to join our 90 member strong discussion forum on toledoexpress.com. We dicuss much more than just TOL there. Of course we can bicker and complain about something, but then we dig deeper and find the reason why something is the way it is.

Stop by and say hi. There is going to be a lot happening at this little airport in the shadow of Metro. We have one airline already announcing new service, and another one waiting in the wings for later this year. Thats not including current airlines that will be expanding service as well. When it is all said and done this year, we could have another 3-5 airports blastered on the route map...it just depends how good the airlines are to us. Here is hoping that they reward their loyal FFs and Companies that stuck with them when competition came knocking.  Smile
 
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RE: NW Replaces DC9 W/ 727 Starting June 7 DTW-TVC

Sat Apr 20, 2002 9:32 am

That would be cool IF TVC would get the 727... Even better if FNT could get them

TVC IS getting the 727 this summer..... FNT IS getting the 727 this summer....

And as far as Farves outlook on TVC.... Well.....

All I said was we will see the 320 in the future.... A couple years off most likely. It was apparent that someone had talked with our airport manager about 757 service as they are making the new terminal to be able to handle this 757 for charters and peak periods. Who could it be? I was thinking NW, but, because Farve and his sidekicks said that TVC wont see anything but DC9-50's, I might have to re assess the sitiation.  Big grin

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