Federico
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Aerolineas Argentinas

Fri Aug 27, 1999 3:30 am

Reading the feature on Airways Magazine (October) I found it very interesting that the B737NG and A318/319 are considered "too heavy"? to replace the 737/MD88. Huh? Lapa is using the 737NG...are they not happy/satisfied with it's performance? Too heavy for what?

They are considering the B717...I think that's a great idea...though they'd need a sister and so far there are no plans for a B717-300 and I doubt it will ever be introduced.

So, there goes my hopes to see an all Airbus Aerolineas...

What would be a good 100-150 pax replacement for them? Got to wait and see, I guess?
Any suggestions/comments?
 
kaitak
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas

Fri Aug 27, 1999 4:26 am

I read somewhere very recently that AR is indeed about to order the 737NG (the -700, I think) and it also due to introduce a new livery later this year.

Personally, I think the 717 is not going to last. While I'm sure it's a fine aircraft, airlines will be saying that they will be asked to accept into their fleets an airdrame that dates back to 1965. I hope I'm wrong, but I doubt it. It should also be pointed out that the 717 clashes with the 736; main reason why the 736 is way behind the 73G/738 in the NG numbers?
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas

Fri Aug 27, 1999 6:08 am

I heard they were in talks with - Airbus - because they had already elected the A320 family as the replacement for the MD-88 and B737-200s; they would be firstly interested in long-range replacement - an order for A330s are due to be placed - and after the medium- and long-haul fleet renewal is completed, they will follow with the A320 orders. I heard this from an internal medium-placed executive from Austral/Aerolíneas in May.

About "too heavy", I think it's in operational meaning: in Argentina, or an airline fly regional planes such Canadair RJ or a small narrow-body in A319/B736 class. There isn't market for a 100 places, I mean. Maybe is that the meaning for too heavy.

And I agree: A A318/B717 plane will not find market in Argentina.

Regards,

TP343, São Paulo, Brazil.
 
lima
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas

Fri Aug 27, 1999 8:54 am

According to was published in newspapers they were very interested in the Canadair CRJ to operate in small cities in Argentina. They had the chance to test this plane when they flew selective domestic and regional routes operating with CRJ´s from Southern Winds.



 
Ciro
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas

Fri Aug 27, 1999 8:59 am

I think the A-320 family is the most ideal for Aerolineas. The airline will eventually code-share with Lan Chile, Lan Peru, TAM Mercosur and TAM Brazil; which fly same aircraft and commonality between partners counts when minimising operations. I also think Airbus will offer a better package deal, since Aerolineas is an A-340 customer and because the European consortium is committed to enhance its market positioning in Latin America.

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Ciro
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas

Fri Aug 27, 1999 9:05 am

I think the A-320 family is the most ideal choice for Aerolineas. The airline will eventually code-share with Lan Chile, Lan Peru, TAM Mercosur and TAM Brazil; which fly same aircraft and commonality between partners counts when minimising operations. I also think Airbus will offer a better package deal than Boeing. The fact that Aerolineas is already an A-340 customer and because the European consortium is well committed to enhance its market positioning in Latin America, I think Aerolineas is right on track to get a much better deal and pricing with Airbus.


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About The Livery...

Fri Aug 27, 1999 5:42 pm

Their changing their livery? Great! The AR livery has to be one of the most UNexciting ones in the whole of that great continent. Sure, it was from the Iberia days, but that's no excuse for being lazy.

I think the regionals over there tend to be a little more colourful-LAER/Southern Winds, and all the other Aeroparque regulars. Equatoriana had a beautiful livery, maybe they've changed it since. Look at LanChile, and that PLUNA plane with the indigenous indian artwork tail.

Come on Aerolineas, let's get Imaginative and Colourful!

Regards,
Alexander.
 
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RE: Aerolineas Argentinas

Sat Aug 28, 1999 12:39 am

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