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Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:30 pm

Ghana has selected Ethiopian Airlines as a partner in the launch of the new national airline project. Ghanaian government will own 10% or less of the venture which will commence flights in 2019.
https://www.myjoyonline.com/business/2018/december-5th/ethiopia-airlines-selected-to-partner-govt-for-ghanas-home-based-carrier.php

This is an exciting development for a growing travel market in Accra. Recently, ET rerouted their LAX flight through Lome which is 105 miles away from Accra. I cannot see Ethiopian choosing to keep both EWR and LAX flights routed through Lome when there would be exponentially more O&D market in Accra, let alone the possibility of using multiple daily frequencies to Lagos and Abuja from Accra to create excellent connections for feeder traffic.

I hope they spare everyone the inconvenience of using an awful name like Ethiopian-Mozambique-Airlines. (must sound better in portuguese) Something like West African Airlines should do the trick if they want to start a new brand. Ghana Airlines has not yet been used either.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Wed Dec 05, 2018 11:49 pm

Speaking of Ethiopian-backed regional carriers. how does one pronounce ASKY? I assume (long A) A Sky and not ASKEY?
 
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:17 am

RJNUT wrote:
Speaking of Ethiopian-backed regional carriers. how does one pronounce ASKY? I assume (long A) A Sky and not ASKEY?


Hate to break it to you, but it is Askey. Sad. Just plain sad.


Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself because there isn't even a single aircraft in livery yet. Perhaps these destinations could work from ACC on a pure hub and spoke model. I know many of them are far flung with very little present O&D but look where ET started and how far they've come.

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:23 am

This will end well.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:36 am

Maybe DUS and HAM get their Accra flights back thanks to this new Airline.
Where else was Ghana Airways flying to? London, FCO, ??? ... There were not many destinations in Europe. I remember these frequently delayed DC10s, an absolute Highlight.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:15 am

DLHAM wrote:
Maybe DUS and HAM get their Accra flights back thanks to this new Airline.
Where else was Ghana Airways flying to? London, FCO, ??? ... There were not many destinations in Europe. I remember these frequently delayed DC10s, an absolute Highlight.


There were flights to JFK and BWI as well as JNB, HRE, BEY and DXB in the final days
 
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:26 am

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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:43 am

RJNUT wrote:
Speaking of Ethiopian-backed regional carriers. how does one pronounce ASKY? I assume (long A) A Sky and not ASKEY?

Working for ET we pronounced is Ah Sky
 
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:42 am

JFKIceman wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
Speaking of Ethiopian-backed regional carriers. how does one pronounce ASKY? I assume (long A) A Sky and not ASKEY?

Working for ET we pronounced is Ah Sky
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Great.. All three pronunciation options stink, but hey ,we didnt name it here on A.net.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:49 am

i thought it was ASK-eye
 
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:29 pm

Will be interesting to see how this works out. Ghana, compared to most other African countries, does quite ok. I hope they don't go all megalomanic and actually concentrate on improving regional connectivity. Africa needs this especially taking into consideration that taking the road is not always the best solution.

Congrats to both Ghana and ET!
 
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:13 pm

So far I believe an airline in Ghana would ET's most promising venture, compared with Malawian (not profitable since inception), ASKY, Tchadia and Zambia, and Ethiopian Mocambique. The economy and VFR markets much are larger, than any of the other countries.
 
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:50 pm

Blerg wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this works out. Ghana, compared to most other African countries, does quite ok. I hope they don't go all megalomanic and actually concentrate on improving regional connectivity. Africa needs this especially taking into consideration that taking the road is not always the best solution.

Congrats to both Ghana and ET!


What could a new airline in Ghana accomplish regionally that isn't already covered by Air Cote d'ivoire and ASKY? I don't think regional capacity is a problem since these two airlines started.
 
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:23 pm

And from the economic giant, just two countries down in Nigeria...absolutely nothing in response.
Sad, really sad!
 
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Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:35 pm

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And from the economic giant, just two countries down in Nigeria...absolutely nothing in response.
Sad, really sad!

The idea that "some other countries are doing great in some industry so government of my country should follow" would often need to financial failure, corruption projects, and governmental-national companies with low efficiency
 
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:57 pm

ghdc10 wrote:
RJNUT wrote:
Speaking of Ethiopian-backed regional carriers. how does one pronounce ASKY? I assume (long A) A Sky and not ASKEY?


Hate to break it to you, but it is Askey. Sad. Just plain sad.



Ah Sky. That's how it's pronounced.

KICT wrote:
This will end well.


Likely will. Ghana has more O&D traffic than Lome, and the latter has worked well. We don't know the details in the agreement, and it may include partnership with ASKY although I doubt it (ASKY aircraft are being used on the Ethiopian Mozambique airline that launched last week.)

asuflyer wrote:
So far I believe an airline in Ghana would ET's most promising venture, compared with Malawian (not profitable since inception), ASKY, Tchadia and Zambia, and Ethiopian Mocambique. The economy and VFR markets much are larger, than any of the other countries.


Agreed. Ghana has a lot more potential than the rest. Malawi in my opinion was the worst venture, and it's been confirmed with the launch of the airline next door in Zambia.

I do wish that the ET-Ghana venture from over a decade ago had taken off with Ghana International. I know of a few a.netters that partook in that, and I imagine they share the same sentiments. ASKY is what GIA could have been. Accra could be the first ET venture to see flights to Europe, especially London.

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Blerg wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this works out. Ghana, compared to most other African countries, does quite ok. I hope they don't go all megalomanic and actually concentrate on improving regional connectivity. Africa needs this especially taking into consideration that taking the road is not always the best solution.

Congrats to both Ghana and ET!


What could a new airline in Ghana accomplish regionally that isn't already covered by Air Cote d'ivoire and ASKY? I don't think regional capacity is a problem since these two airlines started.


The new airline in Ghana has the VFR and economy to support it. If the formula is based on the cheap Q400 which is now ubiquitous in the region, it could work very well.

africawings wrote:
And from the economic giant, just two countries down in Nigeria...absolutely nothing in response.
Sad, really sad!


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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:26 pm

Rumours a few of ASKY aircraft are heading to mazambique.

Would be good if their west african hops, (LFW-EWR/LAX and ABJ-EWR) move to Accra.
The venture will be great for a hub, routes which can be filled very quick are the obvious ones.
LHR, DUS, HAM, FCO, BWI, JNB, DXB, NYC.
They can establish some good connections between BEY and brazil, USA/Europe to West, central and southern Africa.

Good luck and can't wait to see it happen
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:19 pm

If your intending on going to Accra from London at the end of January I suggest that you book your ticket soon as possible because whatever happens regarding the new Ghanaian startup there's no way that they will be operating to London from Accra by the end of January, your looking at a matter of a few weeks not months, any possible route to London or to mainland European destinations will be quite far off for now and we're talking in months not weeks.

The end of January is only seven weeks time.

And regarding the rumours about the ASKY aircraft, I'm assuming you meant heading to Mozambique!

But why would they?

A few weeks ago ASKY had commented on the fact that they had intentions of using their B738 from Lome to LGW but it seems to have gone quiet regarding that proposal.
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:26 am

What Accra will give ET is what LFW doesn't have: the population, the O&D traffic, and a domestic network which may or may not be worthwhile. But I recall reading that the latter was one of the points that had ET win the partnership.

What I wonder about is how the other partners in ASKY are taking this news. Accra is at the doorsteps of ASKY's hub and this new Ghanaian airline will be a threat. ASKY and Lome have not grown in terms of new destinations as of late, and have not been able to sustain longer haul destinations such as Johannesburg or the envisioned service to Beirut. Accra will be able to sustain such routes, with the markets already established and served by a myriad of foreign airlines.

ET is committing to allocate 4 aircraft in 2019 to this new airline. Undoubtedly a mix of Q400s and B737s. Today there's news that they intend to serve London and Germany out of Accra. Maybe we will see larger aircraft, perhaps ET's B767s will find a new home.
 
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Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:12 pm

berari wrote:
What Accra will give ET is what LFW doesn't have: the population, the O&D traffic, and a domestic network which may or may not be worthwhile. But I recall reading that the latter was one of the points that had ET win the partnership.

What I wonder about is how the other partners in ASKY are taking this news. Accra is at the doorsteps of ASKY's hub and this new Ghanaian airline will be a threat. ASKY and Lome have not grown in terms of new destinations as of late, and have not been able to sustain longer haul destinations such as Johannesburg or the envisioned service to Beirut. Accra will be able to sustain such routes, with the markets already established and served by a myriad of foreign airlines.

ET is committing to allocate 4 aircraft in 2019 to this new airline. Undoubtedly a mix of Q400s and B737s. Today there's news that they intend to serve London and Germany out of Accra. Maybe we will see larger aircraft, perhaps ET's B767s will find a new home.


Would it make sense for them to set up a mini hub in Accra through which they could distribute passengers throughout the region? Or would it cost too much and have way too many risks associated with it?
 
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Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:21 pm

africawings wrote:
And from the economic giant, just two countries down in Nigeria...absolutely nothing in response.
Sad, really sad!


The kleptocracy there is probably the biggest issue as to why an airline there isn't really successful. What Africa really needs is an open skies agreement, but chances are it would benefit a handful of carriers like AT and ET.
 
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Fri Dec 14, 2018 8:44 pm

aemoreira1981 wrote:
africawings wrote:
And from the economic giant, just two countries down in Nigeria...absolutely nothing in response.
Sad, really sad!


The kleptocracy there is probably the biggest issue as to why an airline there isn't really successful. What Africa really needs is an open skies agreement, but chances are it would benefit a handful of carriers like AT and ET.



I think that they are already attempting open sky arrangements, and ET will be the big beneficiary. I believe this is why ET is establishing this subsidiaries in so many countries.
 
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Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:31 pm

guyanam wrote:
aemoreira1981 wrote:
africawings wrote:
And from the economic giant, just two countries down in Nigeria...absolutely nothing in response.
Sad, really sad!


The kleptocracy there is probably the biggest issue as to why an airline there isn't really successful. What Africa really needs is an open skies agreement, but chances are it would benefit a handful of carriers like AT and ET.



I think that they are already attempting open sky arrangements, and ET will be the big beneficiary. I believe this is why ET is establishing this subsidiaries in so many countries.


I think ET establishing the subsidiaries is more of a backup plan for an open skies would allow it to fly anywhere using its own brand.
 
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 11:38 am

UK and Germany are confirmed to be the 1st new Destinations for ET from ACC
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 5:35 pm

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UK and Germany are confirmed to be the 1st new Destinations for ET from ACC


Can you provide a source?
 
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:25 pm

I read about its European plans in ATW last week.

In terms of Europe, no surprises at all on ACC-LON and ACC-Germany (presumably DUS or HAM - probably DUS) given Ghanaian populations/people of Ghanian background.
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:51 pm

Is that why they applied for IAH-ACC?
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 7:48 pm

SQ22 wrote:
soups wrote:
UK and Germany are confirmed to be the 1st new Destinations for ET from ACC


Can you provide a source?


https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... rom-ghana/

I'm going to assume this will replace 3x of the 10x weekly flights between Addis Ababa and London Heathrow, and use these slots to launch 3x weekly Accra to London Heathrow.

However, I think this route will need a daily frequency in order to compete against British Airways, so new slots may be sought. In addition, hopefully this route can also be located in the Star Alliance hub at Heathrow Terminal 2 and have codeshare with United and Air Canada for long haul routes - similar to the current Ethiopian schedule
 
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:54 pm

What is the point if an open skies agreement if not all countries cooperate. And the open skies agreement is there for the benefit of Ethiopian. Ethiopia/n are the one's pushing for this agreement,yet they are denying other African airlines to fly to Ethiopia. Kenya Airways' CEO mentioned it in an interview and in Parliament. And if you go and research how many airlines (African) fly into Ethiopia,you'll see there are parallels.

https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/new ... index.html

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2018/12 ... z_c1863875

Kenya and Ethiopian are now battling on the Mogadishu route. And ask yourself if Ethiopian will allow the new JV with the other African airlines to fly into Ethiopia?
 
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:04 pm

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Is that why they applied for IAH-ACC?

For what i recall its a city in texas, IAH would make more sense.
If ET routes some of its USA flights via ACC,
Acc will have the one strong connection from US to Africa with
SAA to IAD
DL to JFK
Rwandair to JFK or EWR
ET to IAH, NYC (most likely), possibly LAX (instead of LFW).
Would be good to connect to othet cities in sub saharan africa.
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Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:07 pm

SeanM1997 wrote:
SQ22 wrote:
soups wrote:
UK and Germany are confirmed to be the 1st new Destinations for ET from ACC


Can you provide a source?


https://www.routesonline.com/news/29/br ... rom-ghana/

I'm going to assume this will replace 3x of the 10x weekly flights between Addis Ababa and London Heathrow, and use these slots to launch 3x weekly Accra to London Heathrow.

However, I think this route will need a daily frequency in order to compete against British Airways, so new slots may be sought. In addition, hopefully this route can also be located in the Star Alliance hub at Heathrow Terminal 2 and have codeshare with United and Air Canada for long haul routes - similar to the current Ethiopian schedule



3weekly to LHR will not be enough with much competition from Europe where BA, KL etc are all daily flights, Brussels airlines are going daily as well as of 2019!
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Re: Ethiopian Airlines to launch Ghana airline!

Sun Dec 16, 2018 11:36 am

Given that ET is in Star Alliance, could we see them introduce first flights to MUC or FRA? I can't imagine many would connect via ADD to Europe when other European carriers offer more direct and shorter travel times.
 
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Sun Dec 16, 2018 4:43 pm

Blerg wrote:
Given that ET is in Star Alliance, could we see them introduce first flights to MUC or FRA? I can't imagine many would connect via ADD to Europe when other European carriers offer more direct and shorter travel times.

Money talks. I have seen people fly JFK-DXB-ACC or LAX-JFK-ADD-ACC, LHR-NBO-ACC ACC-CMN-JED etc...
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Sun Dec 16, 2018 5:17 pm

An employer of mine tried to invest in a similar venture a little over dozen years ago. I wish these new entrants better luck than we had.

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