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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:37 am

According to Times of India, Finnair pulls out of Goa after 25 years of operation. Presumably, AY will use the aircraft operating to GOI on another route, either launching a totally new route or increasing frequencies on a currently operated route. I would like to see AY replacing GOI by another Indian city such as Mumbai, Bengaluru or Chennai. Sad news though.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:24 am

QuawerAir wrote:
According to Times of India, Finnair pulls out of Goa after 25 years of operation. Presumably, AY will use the aircraft operating to GOI on another route, either launching a totally new route or increasing frequencies on a currently operated route. I would like to see AY replacing GOI by another Indian city such as Mumbai, Bengaluru or Chennai. Sad news though.

That was mostly leisure traffic so not really big surprise. AY relations with India isn't that good. So I don't expect any new destinations in India any time soon.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:43 am

CPH January 2019 statistics

Domestic: 114,415 (-6.2%)
Europe: 1,541,074 (+0.9%)
Intercontinental: 316,678 (+13.6%)
Total: 1,972,167 (+2.3%)

DOH was for the first time in the Top 10 routes from CPH, while DXB was not. Could DOH become the busiest intercontinental route from CPH this year?
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:24 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
According to Times of India, Finnair pulls out of Goa after 25 years of operation. Presumably, AY will use the aircraft operating to GOI on another route, either launching a totally new route or increasing frequencies on a currently operated route. I would like to see AY replacing GOI by another Indian city such as Mumbai, Bengaluru or Chennai. Sad news though.

Haven’t Finnair been looking at Chennai? I guess that could be a start for a second leg to stand on, being a hub between NE America and India. Haven’t they recently been growing quite well on N America?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:37 pm

JCCLAG wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
According to Times of India, Finnair pulls out of Goa after 25 years of operation. Presumably, AY will use the aircraft operating to GOI on another route, either launching a totally new route or increasing frequencies on a currently operated route. I would like to see AY replacing GOI by another Indian city such as Mumbai, Bengaluru or Chennai. Sad news though.

Haven’t Finnair been looking at Chennai? I guess that could be a start for a second leg to stand on, being a hub between NE America and India. Haven’t they recently been growing quite well on N America?

Yes, they have. The Indian market has developed well within the last few years. For example, 82,308 passengers flew to India from HEL in 2016, while in 2018, the number was 128,644 (+56.3% within the last two years). And given that AY, as you said, has been growing in the U.S recently, they could try (again) to be a minor hub between North America and India. I think there's potential for that. Finnair also said earlier this year that they now seek growth not only from Asia but from North America as well (I really hope they'll return to YYZ).
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:14 pm

It's stuck behind a paywall, but it looks like Sun Air is looking at options for 50-seaters to replace the 14 Dornier 328s:

https://www.check-in.dk/50-saeders-fly- ... eresse-os/

Does anybody have access? In the small tidbit they mention the new CRJ-550, but notes that all 50-seaters are of interest.

Can the CRJ-550 do London City? What other options are there? Secondhand ERJ-145s, ATR 42-600?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:57 pm

QuawerAir wrote:
JCCLAG wrote:
QuawerAir wrote:
According to Times of India, Finnair pulls out of Goa after 25 years of operation. Presumably, AY will use the aircraft operating to GOI on another route, either launching a totally new route or increasing frequencies on a currently operated route. I would like to see AY replacing GOI by another Indian city such as Mumbai, Bengaluru or Chennai. Sad news though.

Haven’t Finnair been looking at Chennai? I guess that could be a start for a second leg to stand on, being a hub between NE America and India. Haven’t they recently been growing quite well on N America?

Yes, they have. The Indian market has developed well within the last few years. For example, 82,308 passengers flew to India from HEL in 2016, while in 2018, the number was 128,644 (+56.3% within the last two years). And given that AY, as you said, has been growing in the U.S recently, they could try (again) to be a minor hub between North America and India. I think there's potential for that. Finnair also said earlier this year that they now seek growth not only from Asia but from North America as well (I really hope they'll return to YYZ).

I think there is a great potential. With a growing IT industry in NE US, India’s share in the IT industry growing and HEL geographically well placed. Even though I live in copenhagen and hoped SK would pick that one up I would not be surprised if AY did it. They are really focused and have had an impressive journey.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:15 pm

Any figures from JAN18 throughout Keflavik?

January is the first month after the big defleet of WOW, so it'll be interesting to analyze how that impacted the pax numbers.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:02 am

VSMUT wrote:
It's stuck behind a paywall, but it looks like Sun Air is looking at options for 50-seaters to replace the 14 Dornier 328s:

https://www.check-in.dk/50-saeders-fly- ... eresse-os/

Does anybody have access? In the small tidbit they mention the new CRJ-550, but notes that all 50-seaters are of interest.

Can the CRJ-550 do London City? What other options are there? Secondhand ERJ-145s, ATR 42-600?


The CRJ range isn’t certificated for LCY. Neither is he E145. The E135 is. Otherwise it’s ATRs, E170/E190 or Dash 8 range.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:23 pm

Today (on 13 February), Finnair received the 13th A350 aircraft, OH-LWN. It will be deployed to LAX on 31 March 2019. I've understood it has the seating capacity for 336 passengers. The 14th A350 will be delivered in April 2019.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:38 pm

A new airline is starting up in Denmark. The name is "Great Dane Airlines" (no, it's not a joke) and the airline will be based in AAL. The first flight will be on June 14th 2019.
It will operate both scheduled and charter flights. The announced routes are:

Scheduled flights:
AAL-EDI
AAL-DUB
AAL-NCE

Charter Flights
AAL-PMI
AAL-RHO
AAL-CHQ
BLL-PMI
BLL-RHO
BLL-CHQ
BLL-VAR
CPH-PMI
CPH-RHO
CPH-CHQ
CPH-VAR

All flights will be operated by an Embraer 195 aircraft (they've leased 2) with 118 seats

Link in Danish: https://www.check-in.dk/danmark-har-faa ... lyselskab/
Types flown: A319, A320, A32N, A321, A332, A333, A343, AT43, AT75, AT76, B717, B732, B735, B736, B737, B738, B752, B753, CRJ9, DC10, DH4D, DHC3, E135, E145, E175, E190, E195, F100, MD11, MD81, MD82, MD87, RJ1H
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:13 pm

a350lover wrote:
Any figures from JAN18 throughout Keflavik?

January is the first month after the big defleet of WOW, so it'll be interesting to analyze how that impacted the pax numbers.


January 2018: 569,332
January 2019: 535,210

So, a reduction of around 6%.

Sources:
https://www.isavia.is/fyrirtaekid/fjolm ... i-i-januar

https://www.isavia.is/fyrirtaekid/um-is ... velli/2018
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:28 pm

SRQKEF wrote:

January 2018: 569,332
January 2019: 535,210

So, a reduction of around 6%.

Sources:
https://www.isavia.is/fyrirtaekid/fjolm ... i-i-januar

https://www.isavia.is/fyrirtaekid/um-is ... velli/2018


Interesting.... that's not a lot. I assume most of the routes which have been dropped were not daily or had a high frequency per week. It'll be interesting to see how the traffic evolves through the year... Thanks for the links.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:30 pm

SASViking wrote:
A new airline is starting up in Denmark. The name is "Great Dane Airlines" (no, it's not a joke) and the airline will be based in AAL. The first flight will be on June 14th 2019.
It will operate both scheduled and charter flights. The announced routes are:

Scheduled flights:
AAL-EDI
AAL-DUB
AAL-NCE

Charter Flights
AAL-PMI
AAL-RHO
AAL-CHQ
BLL-PMI
BLL-RHO
BLL-CHQ
BLL-VAR
CPH-PMI
CPH-RHO
CPH-CHQ
CPH-VAR

All flights will be operated by an Embraer 195 aircraft (they've leased 2) with 118 seats

Link in Danish: https://www.check-in.dk/danmark-har-faa ... lyselskab/


It sounds very similar to Flynonstop. Sadly that didn't end well.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:39 pm

a350lover wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:

January 2018: 569,332
January 2019: 535,210

So, a reduction of around 6%.

Sources:
https://www.isavia.is/fyrirtaekid/fjolm ... i-i-januar

https://www.isavia.is/fyrirtaekid/um-is ... velli/2018


Interesting.... that's not a lot. I assume most of the routes which have been dropped were not daily or had a high frequency per week. It'll be interesting to see how the traffic evolves through the year... Thanks for the links.


The true difference will probably be seen in the summer, a lot of the routes WOW dropped were summer seasonal. Also, WOW still used their A330 to DEL and LAX until the 21st of January and FI had more capacity in January 2019 than 2018
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:46 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
The true difference will probably be seen in the summer, a lot of the routes WOW dropped were summer seasonal. Also, WOW still used their A330 to DEL and LAX until the 21st of January and FI had more capacity in January 2019 than 2018


Very true. Do you see WOW increasing capacity soon via narrow-body fleet?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:59 pm

a350lover wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
The true difference will probably be seen in the summer, a lot of the routes WOW dropped were summer seasonal. Also, WOW still used their A330 to DEL and LAX until the 21st of January and FI had more capacity in January 2019 than 2018


Very true. Do you see WOW increasing capacity soon via narrow-body fleet?


From what I've heard, there's a chance they could sell even more aircraft and go down to 6-8 A32Ss. Their stated plan is to stabilise the route network for a couple of years and then start to slowly grow again, but remember that the Indigo investment hasn't even been finalised yet. I hope it does go through, but if not WOW is doomed.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:31 pm

They could have replaced NO on the KEF-FCO route but sadly no word
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:43 pm

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They could have replaced NO on the KEF-FCO route but sadly no word


Don't count FI out of the KEF-Italy market. Their new bank structure will enable them to go much deeper into Europe, including Italy and Spain, which I'm hopeful they'll exploit sooner rather than later when more MAX's arrive.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:53 am

Against analysts' expectations Finnair managed to stay in the black in Q4. Comparable operating result for 2018 remained roughly the same as the year before. PLF is however not following with the capacity increase as anticipated.

Capacity growth for 2019 is planned at around 10% which is a bit less than last year.

https://company.finnair.com/en/media/al ... id=3207711

January–December 2018

Revenue increased by 10.4% to 2,834.6 million euros (2,568.4)*.
Available seat kilometres (ASK) grew by 14.8%.
Passenger load factor (PLF) was 81.8% (-1.5 percentage points).
Comparable operating result was 169.4 million euros (170.4). Operating result was 207.5 million euros (224.8).

Unit revenue (RASK) decreased by 3.9%. Unit revenue at constant currency decreased by 2.6%.
Unit cost (CASK) decreased by 3.2%. Unit cost at constant currency excluding fuel decreased by 6.2%.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:42 pm

Given that their growth of ASK was mostly squeezing more seats to existing planes (their newest plane was built in 2017) they indeed carried more pax per plane even though PLF decreased.

This years' capacity growth while smaller includes at least 2 new widebodies - who knows about new narrowbodies.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:50 pm

DY7260 diverted yesterday to Delhi its flight KBV-ARN. Any one knows what's the reason?

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/dy7260
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:19 pm

Norrkoping in Sweden has now lost its last year-round route. Just summer-only leisure-centric routes remain now.

Wondering if NRK really needs to be open during the winter any more
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:25 am

DAT has confimed they will continue the EBJ-ADZ route after the demise of flybmi.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:21 pm

CPH-R wrote:
DAT has confimed they will continue the EBJ-ADZ route after the demise of flybmi.


Aberdeen is ABZ - Loganair are also intending to fly the ABZEBJ route, as well as ABZOSL in competition with SAS.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:57 am

Now all Norwegian is all for sale (wasn't it before?) let's see who's gonna rescue it:
https://www.avanza.se/placera/telegram/ ... -kjos.html
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 11:14 am

Kikko19 wrote:
Now all Norwegian is all for sale (wasn't it before?) let's see who's gonna rescue it:
https://www.avanza.se/placera/telegram/ ... -kjos.html


He just saying that all companies listed on the stock market is technically for sale ;)
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:10 pm

Someone83 wrote:
Kikko19 wrote:
Now all Norwegian is all for sale (wasn't it before?) let's see who's gonna rescue it:
https://www.avanza.se/placera/telegram/ ... -kjos.html


He just saying that all companies listed on the stock market is technically for sale ;)

I guess I've to refresh my swedish :D :D
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Feb 20, 2019 7:50 pm

Finnair will terminate its eight-month-old Minsk route due to "insufficient demand". The last flight will be flown on 5 March. Sad to see another route being discontinued.

belarusfeed

Flights are still bookable until October 2019 though.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:36 pm

SRQKEF wrote:
Don't count FI out of the KEF-Italy market. Their new bank structure will enable them to go much deeper into Europe, including Italy and Spain, which I'm hopeful they'll exploit sooner rather than later when more MAX's arrive.

Could you tell something more about the new bank structure? What will change precisely and when?

I thought Icelandair already served Italy and Spain, flying to Milan and Barcelona?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:08 pm

MartijnNL wrote:
SRQKEF wrote:
Don't count FI out of the KEF-Italy market. Their new bank structure will enable them to go much deeper into Europe, including Italy and Spain, which I'm hopeful they'll exploit sooner rather than later when more MAX's arrive.

Could you tell something more about the new bank structure? What will change precisely and when?

I thought Icelandair already served Italy and Spain, flying to Milan and Barcelona?


First off, they do serve MXP/MAD, but only 1-2x weekly seasonally outside of bank times (so O&D only). Flights depart at 2-3pm and arrive back in KEF around midnight.

Here’s how the old banks looked:

5-8am: N-American flights arrive and European flights depart
2pm-6pm: European flights arrive and N-American flights depart

The new bank system, increasing fleet utilisation and opening up more of Europe, is as follows:

5-7am: N-American flights arrive
7-8am: European flights depart
9-10am: N-American flights arrive
11am-12pm: European flights depart
2-4pm: European flights arrive
5-6pm: N-American flights depart
6-8pm: European flights arrive
9-11pm: N-American flights depart

So, under this system, MXP/MAD/any new destinations in this area of Europe can now depart KEF at 7-8am and arrive back at 6-8pm, connecting to flights both ways.
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 6:33 am

There are some summer changes coming from DY:

ARN-ZAG is not coming back. I suppose FR from BNX killed the route.
CPH-ZAG is operated on a summer seasonal basis but this year it will be shorter.
Stavanger and Trondheim to Pula are cut.
Oslo to Rijeka is also being cut.

I wonder if there is less demand from Norway to Croatia this year. Maybe Norwegians are moving to some other locations such as Turkey or Tunis?
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:21 am

The press in Iceland is reporting that Icelandair is initiating formal negotiations with Airbus and Boeing about an aircraft to replace their 757s.

https://www.mbl.is/vidskipti/frettir/20 ... d_bordinu/
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:57 am

Why negotiate with Airbus? Can't they just replace the 752s with MAX? Or maybe they are looking at A321neo.
 
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Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:04 am

kelvin933 wrote:
The press in Iceland is reporting that Icelandair is initiating formal negotiations with Airbus and Boeing about an aircraft to replace their 757s.

https://www.mbl.is/vidskipti/frettir/20 ... d_bordinu/


Blerg wrote:
Why negotiate with Airbus? Can't they just replace the 752s with MAX? Or maybe they are looking at A321neo.



I felt this deserved a separate thread, posted here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1416133
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