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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:24 am

WFS received the BA contract over TDA, have to say it’s a mild surprise but hopefully will be better for the BA experience at PIT.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:23 pm

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WFS received the BA contract over TDA, have to say it’s a mild surprise but hopefully will be better for the BA experience at PIT.

Sounds like BA did some due diligence.
Last year, WFS laid off 161 cargo handlers at PHL because AA didn't renew the contract. AA hired G2 out of Texas. Anyone know about this company?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:57 pm

ConcourseZ wrote:
KPITK wrote:
WFS received the BA contract over TDA, have to say it’s a mild surprise but hopefully will be better for the BA experience at PIT.

Sounds like BA did some due diligence.


Finally! I'd hate to have the BA departures all screwed up too thanks to TDA. Maybe Condor will switch? Who is WFS? What does that stand for?

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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:25 pm

WFS-Worldwide flight services

They’ve been advertising for ramp and customer service people the last few weeks. I think they are a European company so BA probably has more experience with them since they do most of their flying in Europe.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:07 pm

WFS is a massive company, they are probably the biggest in Europe. They handle B6 QR and G4 at PIT as well as cargo services for various airlines such as delta and southwest and all the international airlines. Here’s an article about them,
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... llion.html
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:58 pm

PITexpress wrote:
ConcourseZ wrote:
KPITK wrote:
WFS received the BA contract over TDA, have to say it’s a mild surprise but hopefully will be better for the BA experience at PIT.

Sounds like BA did some due diligence.


Finally! I'd hate to have the BA departures all screwed up too thanks to TDA. Maybe Condor will switch? Who is WFS? What does that stand for?

And the A-321N has arrived!
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL ... /EDHI/KPIT

Too bad he was the only arrival that took 28R.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:40 pm

"American Airlines took delivery Friday in the first of what will eventually become 100 new Airbus A321neo twin-engine jets — and that’s terrific news for the airline’s maintenance facility at Pittsburgh International Airport.

The Airbus A321neo touched down on Runway 28R at Pittsburgh International Airport on a cold, snowy Friday after a nine-hour flight from the factory in Hamburg, Germany. The fuel-efficient aircraft, which carries 196 passengers in two classes, taxied to an American Airlines (Nasdaq: AAL) gate and, despite the snow, attracted a lot of attention. It will stay at the gate for a little while and then move to American Airlines’ Airbus maintenance facility for initial checks and additional installations.

American Airlines has chosen its Pittsburgh maintenance facility, a legacy of the US Airways presence here, as the location for the initial work.

John Falbo, senior manager of base maintenance at American Airlines’ facility in Pittsburgh, said the checks will include operations checks and customization inside and out, along with a ViaSat satellite Wifi system.

“It’s done to customize the aircraft to American Airlines standards,” said airline spokeswoman Linda Brock.

There are about 500 employees, including 350 in tech ops, at the Pittsburgh facility, which specializes in Airbus maintenance. American Airlines has about 1,551 aircraft including other Airbus family jets. About 100 aircraft a year are worked on at the Pittsburgh facility, Falbo said.

After this Airbus A321neo completes two weeks of initial work in Pittsburgh, it will fly to Dallas-Fort Worth for more and is set to begin service on April 2 flying from Phoenix to Orlando.

About 17 Airbus A321neo aircraft will be delivered to American Airlines this year, all heading to Pittsburgh and its local Tech Ops facility first before joining the fleet. Other A321neos will fly Phoenix-Anchorage, Phoenix-Hawaii and Los Angeles-Hawaii this fall.
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https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2019/02/01/american-airlines-newest-airbus-a321neo-lands-in.html
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:53 pm

Very cool, thanks for sharing!
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Fri Feb 01, 2019 9:25 pm

More pics of the AA A321neo at PIT today courtesy of the airport.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pitairpor ... 6274810705

QR Cargo departed a bit later than usual today so there are also a few pics of it departing for LUX.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:20 am

Radio interview with Ms. Cassotis. 2:15-12:00. Some good comments on Wow Air, what to expect Feb 20 wrt the terminal design, and the Innovation Campus.
https://www.wesa.fm/post/airport-authority-ceo-talks-increased-passenger-traffic-new-flights-airlines-calling-it-quits
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:28 pm

May schedule for AA is out. Some interesting changes.

- PHX cut down to 1x daily A319. Has this route ever been 1x daily before? Wonder if DL to SLC and WN are having an effect on them.
- LGA sees a capacity boost and even picks up mainline in the form of 1x daily E190. The whole schedule is as follows: 1x daily E190, 4x daily E175s, 1x daily E140, and 1x daily CRJ2.
- DCA, like LGA, also picks up mainline. 1x daily E190, 1x daily E175, 1x daily CRJ7, and 1x daily CRJ2
- JFK is being brought back. 1x daily E140.

And for the rest of the network...
- DFW still 4x daily. Although this time 3x daily B738s and 1x daily A319.
- ORD still 6x daily. Some changes in equipment though. Now 3x daily E175s, 1x daily A319, 1x daily B738, and 1x daily CRJ7.
- PHL still 6x daily. 3x daily E190s, 2x daily A319s, and 1x daily CRJ7. The 2pm flight has been upgraded to an A319 and some of the CRJ/E175 flights have been bumped up to E190s.
- CLT with no change. Still 9x daily being a mix of CRJ7/CRJ9/A319/A320 equipment.
- MIA with no change. Still 1x daily E145 and 1x daily E175.
- RDU still hanging in there with 1x daily CRJ2.

I'm slightly surprised about PHX, LGA, and DCA. AA seemed to be getting good loads and they were charging fares at around $220-230 on both flights. As for LGA and DCA, they seem to be doing the same thing UA did last year with adding more mainline to markets that didn't have any prior. Adding capacity to LGA was the last thing I would've expected.

Also, Southern has completely pulled PIT-MDT from OAG, only a week after they added it. I wonder why...
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:46 pm

Runway28L wrote:
May schedule for AA is out. Some interesting changes.

- PHX cut down to 1x daily A319. Has this route ever been 1x daily before? Wonder if DL to SLC and WN are having an effect on them.
- LGA sees a capacity boost and even picks up mainline in the form of 1x daily E190. The whole schedule is as follows: 1x daily E190, 4x daily E175s, 1x daily E140, and 1x daily CRJ2.
- DCA, like LGA, also picks up mainline. 1x daily E190, 1x daily E175, 1x daily CRJ7, and 1x daily CRJ2
- JFK is being brought back. 1x daily E140.

And for the rest of the network...
- DFW still 4x daily. Although this time 3x daily B738s and 1x daily A319.
- ORD still 6x daily. Some changes in equipment though. Now 3x daily E175s, 1x daily A319, 1x daily B738, and 1x daily CRJ7.
- PHL still 6x daily. 3x daily E190s, 2x daily A319s, and 1x daily CRJ7. The 2pm flight has been upgraded to an A319 and some of the CRJ/E175 flights have been bumped up to E190s.
- CLT with no change. Still 9x daily being a mix of CRJ7/CRJ9/A319/A320 equipment.
- MIA with no change. Still 1x daily E145 and 1x daily E175.
- RDU still hanging in there with 1x daily CRJ2.

I'm slightly surprised about PHX, LGA, and DCA. AA seemed to be getting good loads and they were charging fares at around $220-230 on both flights. As for LGA and DCA, they seem to be doing the same thing UA did last year with adding more mainline to markets that didn't have any prior. Adding capacity to LGA was the last thing I would've expected.

Also, Southern has completely pulled PIT-MDT from OAG, only a week after they added it. I wonder why...

First off I'm happy to happy to see American add mainline to LaGuardia and DCA, but I'm disappointed that they are cutting the PHX flight to one flight a day even though they have been running two flight with one of them being an A320, for. LGA I wish they would add a 5th 175 and cut the 140 and CRJ 200, I'm disappointed that ORD is now just 1 737, MIA is now down to 2 flights a day? I thought they were doing well on that flight
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:19 pm

AA puts the planes where they need them, not where we think they should be. UA is the dominant carrier on PITORD, period. As for JFK, I was hoping for a discontinuation due to BA starting service, obviously that won't happen. I would like to aircraft upgrades as well, but again, AA is putting the planes where they need them. PITMIA is fine, I honestly think the majority of the PIT-South America crowd uses UA or DL. Their schedules and equipment are better, especially to the hubs. DFW carries some South America traffic, but that late afternoon MIA was mostly local MIA traffic, plus an odd EYW, TLH, or MCO. Sometimes you'd see SCL, GRU or EZE, but it was still mostly local MIA.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:25 pm

Gsasala wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
May schedule for AA is out. Some interesting changes.

- PHX cut down to 1x daily A319. Has this route ever been 1x daily before? Wonder if DL to SLC and WN are having an effect on them.
- LGA sees a capacity boost and even picks up mainline in the form of 1x daily E190. The whole schedule is as follows: 1x daily E190, 4x daily E175s, 1x daily E140, and 1x daily CRJ2.
- DCA, like LGA, also picks up mainline. 1x daily E190, 1x daily E175, 1x daily CRJ7, and 1x daily CRJ2
- JFK is being brought back. 1x daily E140.

And for the rest of the network...
- DFW still 4x daily. Although this time 3x daily B738s and 1x daily A319.
- ORD still 6x daily. Some changes in equipment though. Now 3x daily E175s, 1x daily A319, 1x daily B738, and 1x daily CRJ7.
- PHL still 6x daily. 3x daily E190s, 2x daily A319s, and 1x daily CRJ7. The 2pm flight has been upgraded to an A319 and some of the CRJ/E175 flights have been bumped up to E190s.
- CLT with no change. Still 9x daily being a mix of CRJ7/CRJ9/A319/A320 equipment.
- MIA with no change. Still 1x daily E145 and 1x daily E175.
- RDU still hanging in there with 1x daily CRJ2.

I'm slightly surprised about PHX, LGA, and DCA. AA seemed to be getting good loads and they were charging fares at around $220-230 on both flights. As for LGA and DCA, they seem to be doing the same thing UA did last year with adding more mainline to markets that didn't have any prior. Adding capacity to LGA was the last thing I would've expected.

Also, Southern has completely pulled PIT-MDT from OAG, only a week after they added it. I wonder why...

First off I'm happy to happy to see American add mainline to LaGuardia and DCA, but I'm disappointed that they are cutting the PHX flight to one flight a day even though they have been running two flight with one of them being an A320, for. LGA I wish they would add a 5th 175 and cut the 140 and CRJ 200, I'm disappointed that ORD is now just 1 737, MIA is now down to 2 flights a day? I thought they were doing well on that flight

AA appears to be reducing a number of flights from PHX in this update, so PIT doesn’t appear to be alone. But in our case, in the past year, we have seen additional service on UA to SFO and new service on AS to SEA and DL to SLC. And in May, both UA and WN are going up to 3x daily on DEN. This likely is impacting connecting traffic that AA generates to PHX. Who knows, 2x daily could return in a later update.

I don’t mind the ORD schedule. It’s still way better than what they were offering 3-4 years ago which was all E145 and CRJ7.

MIA does well, but perhaps AA wants to keep it that way by remaining at 2x daily.

USPIT10L wrote:
AA puts the planes where they need them, not where we think they should be. UA is the dominant carrier on PITORD, period. As for JFK, I was hoping for a discontinuation due to BA starting service, obviously that won't happen. I would like to aircraft upgrades as well, but again, AA is putting the planes where they need them. PITMIA is fine, I honestly think the majority of the PIT-South America crowd uses UA or DL. Their schedules and equipment are better, especially to the hubs. DFW carries some South America traffic, but that late afternoon MIA was mostly local MIA traffic, plus an odd EYW, TLH, or MCO. Sometimes you'd see SCL, GRU or EZE, but it was still mostly local MIA.

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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:07 pm

Here's a slideshow of pics and captions detaining the work that will be done to the new AA A321NEOs:
https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2019/02/03/take-a-look-inside-american-airlines-newest-jet.html
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:30 am

Gsasala wrote:
Runway28L wrote:
May schedule for AA is out. Some interesting changes.

- PHX cut down to 1x daily A319. Has this route ever been 1x daily before? Wonder if DL to SLC and WN are having an effect on them.
- LGA sees a capacity boost and even picks up mainline in the form of 1x daily E190. The whole schedule is as follows: 1x daily E190, 4x daily E175s, 1x daily E140, and 1x daily CRJ2.
- DCA, like LGA, also picks up mainline. 1x daily E190, 1x daily E175, 1x daily CRJ7, and 1x daily CRJ2
- JFK is being brought back. 1x daily E140.

And for the rest of the network...
- DFW still 4x daily. Although this time 3x daily B738s and 1x daily A319.
- ORD still 6x daily. Some changes in equipment though. Now 3x daily E175s, 1x daily A319, 1x daily B738, and 1x daily CRJ7.
- PHL still 6x daily. 3x daily E190s, 2x daily A319s, and 1x daily CRJ7. The 2pm flight has been upgraded to an A319 and some of the CRJ/E175 flights have been bumped up to E190s.
- CLT with no change. Still 9x daily being a mix of CRJ7/CRJ9/A319/A320 equipment.
- MIA with no change. Still 1x daily E145 and 1x daily E175.
- RDU still hanging in there with 1x daily CRJ2.

I'm slightly surprised about PHX, LGA, and DCA. AA seemed to be getting good loads and they were charging fares at around $220-230 on both flights. As for LGA and DCA, they seem to be doing the same thing UA did last year with adding more mainline to markets that didn't have any prior. Adding capacity to LGA was the last thing I would've expected.

Also, Southern has completely pulled PIT-MDT from OAG, only a week after they added it. I wonder why...

First off I'm happy to happy to see American add mainline to LaGuardia and DCA, but I'm disappointed that they are cutting the PHX flight to one flight a day even though they have been running two flight with one of them being an A320, for. LGA I wish they would add a 5th 175 and cut the 140 and CRJ 200, I'm disappointed that ORD is now just 1 737, MIA is now down to 2 flights a day? I thought they were doing well on that flight


That reduction to PHX might (emphasis on the word might) be enough to interest NK, F9 or G4 with non-daily service.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:20 am

Anyone know if DL still has that satellite crew base here now that CDG is gone?
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:12 am

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Anyone know if DL still has that satellite crew base here now that CDG is gone?

It was my understanding that the crew base was active only during the seasonal flights.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:59 pm

Blue Sky's article on the AA A321neo delivery and about the PIT TechOps base itself:

“When American performs acceptance checks after taking delivery of a brand new aircraft, they go to one of our four heavy maintenance base locations. Tech Ops – PIT base was chosen due to their history, familiarity and great maintenance work on the Airbus A320F aircraft,” said American spokeswoman Linda Brock. “The A321neo is a variant of that fleet family, so it’s very similar to what they usually work on.”

...

The maintenance base at PIT was a piece of the former US Airways hub. But the base remained even as the carrier dramatically downsized its local operations and later merged with Dallas-based American Airlines. American extended its maintenance base hangar lease with the airport in 2015 through the end of 2020.

The local maintenance base has earned a reputation as being among the best in the business, with some of the longest-tenured mechanics in the system.

In 2018, the Tech Ops – PIT team worked on 400 aircraft, with a 95 percent on-time record of getting those aircraft back into passenger service. The PIT team continues to produce industry leading reliability and efficiency on the A320F fleet, Brock said.


https://blueskypit.com/2019/02/02/ameri ... s-a321neo/
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:52 pm

More on LBE's runway project. I wonder why the middle two taxiway connectors need to be slightly relocated:

Image

https://gaiconsultants.com/airport-infrastructure-phased-runway/
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:16 pm

Probably those two new taxi ways will mark the end and start of the runway when they close half of the runway for reconstruction and they will be used as better exit points for the commmerical flights so spirit doesn’t haven’t to slam on the brakes so hard to make the current exit points. Been on flights landing where spirit pilots slammed on the brakes so hard (felt like landing on an aircraft carrier) to make one of those exit so they don’t have to use the whole runway.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:03 am

JetBlue cancelled flight 1486 this morning, so they sent an A320 to do two turns to BOS today.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/B61585
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/B61885

Alaska downgraded tomorrow's SEA flight to a B73G and now has outright cancelled it in advance. Wouldn't surprise me if this has to do with weak demand, considering that this is a Saturday flight in the middle of a slow travel period.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AS198
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:12 am

Runway28L wrote:

Alaska downgraded tomorrow's SEA flight to a B73G and now has outright cancelled it in advance. Wouldn't surprise me if this has to do with weak demand, considering that this is a Saturday flight in the middle of a slow travel period.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AS198


I have never seen an airline cancel a flight for a day due to weak demand. I bet it is because tonight and tomorrow morning, SEA is getting one if their worst snow events in many years.
 
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Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:33 am

Its a moot point now, but here is a very positive review of OneJet's ERJ flights:
https://www.airlinereporter.com/2019/02/retro-flight-review-onejet-plus-kansas-city-to-pittsburgh-aboard-an-erj/


Some business news... Remember how Alcoa split in to Alcoa and Arconic with Alcoa moving their HQ to Pgh becoming our latest F500 HQ? Arconic, also on the F500, was to move their HQ from NYC to NoVA but they backed out of that deal today. Arconic still has a major corporate presence and technical center in Pgh. Wouldn't it be great if they move that NYC office here just like Alcoa did. Its only 50 employees but it would mean we pick up our 9th F500 headquarters. The 8th is happening this month with the completion of the Wabtec and GE Transportation merger; the combined company is looking for a larger office in or near downtown. Then there is news that the NYC portion of Amazon's HQ2 might not be... and the other HQ2 finalists might still be in the running if NYC does not pan out.


Runway28L wrote:
Alaska downgraded tomorrow's SEA flight to a B73G and now has outright cancelled it in advance. Wouldn't surprise me if this has to do with weak demand, considering that this is a Saturday flight in the middle of a slow travel period.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AS198

This evening's PIT-SEA flight cancelled. It did operate SEA-PIT, so perhaps it went on maintenance here or the weather in SEA. Cancelling tomorrow's SEA-PIT is probably an issue of aircraft availability. As of now tomorrow night's PIT-SEA is scheduled and still selling according to the AS website.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:47 am

pgh234 wrote:
Runway28L wrote:

Alaska downgraded tomorrow's SEA flight to a B73G and now has outright cancelled it in advance. Wouldn't surprise me if this has to do with weak demand, considering that this is a Saturday flight in the middle of a slow travel period.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AS198


I have never seen an airline cancel a flight for a day due to weak demand. I bet it is because tonight and tomorrow morning, SEA is getting one if their worst snow events in many years.


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Runway28L wrote:
Alaska downgraded tomorrow's SEA flight to a B73G and now has outright cancelled it in advance. Wouldn't surprise me if this has to do with weak demand, considering that this is a Saturday flight in the middle of a slow travel period.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/AS198

This evening's PIT-SEA flight cancelled. It did operate SEA-PIT, so perhaps it went on maintenance here or the weather in SEA. Cancelling tomorrow's SEA-PIT is probably an issue of aircraft availability. As of now tomorrow night's PIT-SEA is scheduled and still selling according to the AS website.

Thanks. I completely forgot about that. So today's B738 is basically going to overnight and stay here until 6:20pm tomorrow when it departs. Makes sense now.

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Its a moot point now, but here is a very positive review of OneJet's ERJ flights:
https://www.airlinereporter.com/2019/02/retro-flight-review-onejet-plus-kansas-city-to-pittsburgh-aboard-an-erj/


Pretty cool that they had WiFi on their ERJs, even if it was GoGo. Wish the US3 did the same.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:32 pm

Well, it's official: PIT's not getting 4B service to MSS under the Essential Air Service. The contract was given to Skywest, who will fly to ORD and IAD.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:36 pm

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More on LBE's runway project. I wonder why the middle two taxiway connectors need to be slightly relocated:

Image

https://gaiconsultants.com/airport-infrastructure-phased-runway/


FAA Airports doesn’t like taxiways that go straight from ramps or taxiways to runways. So this is an opportunity to provide a turn to keep aircraft from inadvertently entering the runway I would think.
 
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Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:00 pm

oflanigan wrote:
FAA Airports doesn’t like taxiways that go straight from ramps or taxiways to runways. So this is an opportunity to provide a turn to keep aircraft from inadvertently entering the runway I would think.

Makes sense, thanks.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:50 pm

WN is temporarily making HOU-PIT 2x daily (1x daily on Saturdays however) in April, to make a total of 13x weekly flights.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:19 am

Any guesses as to why only April? Seems odd.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:13 am

ncflyer wrote:
Any guesses as to why only April? Seems odd.

Just a guess but probably has to do with some extra slack in aircraft availability during the shoulder period. They did the same with PIT-BNA during the opposite shoulder period for two years. It lead to PIT-BNA increasing to 2x daily on a permanent basis so I imagine the same could and will happen with PIT-HOU.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:15 am

From routes online. WOW has updated schedules for Summer 2019.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-14jan19/
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:17 pm

ConcourseZ wrote:
From routes online. WOW has updated schedules for Summer 2019.
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... f-14jan19/

Not really anything surprising. They're resuming BOS, BWI, DTW, and EWR. One thing to make note of is they are flying an overwhelming majority of their routes on a weekly basis as opposed to daily. While it would be nice to see them come back to serving PIT, within a couple of months PIT will have service to its top two European destinations. WOW did more or less find a niche with KEF-PIT; they did stimulate a market, but I highly doubt it will return, at least not for the foreseeable future anyway...
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:51 pm

It’s too bad. I haven’t look real hard yet but a quick perusal suggests PIT flyers are going to be paying a lot more to get to Europe this summer. Will certainly help BA yields. As long as those seats are filled.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:46 pm

ncflyer wrote:
It’s too bad. I haven’t look real hard yet but a quick perusal suggests PIT flyers are going to be paying a lot more to get to Europe this summer. Will certainly help BA yields. As long as those seats are filled.

I think Condor is going to benefit the most from WW leaving. Last time I checked, prices on PIT-FRA for S19 seemed pretty reasonable. Perhaps the price-sensitive crowd will find this as a good alternative for a trip to Europe. The only downsides I see though is DE having lower frequency and being summer-only vs WW. If you have to travel to Europe outside of summer on a tight budget or need a more flexible schedule, your options are pretty limited.

Who knows, maybe that can be corrected if DE does well enough this summer and adds more capacity. If nothing else happens on the TATL side this year, there could be a strong opportunity for DE to expand.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:57 pm

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Who knows, maybe that can be corrected if DE does well enough this summer and adds more capacity. If nothing else happens on the TATL side this year, there could be a strong opportunity for DE to expand.


Agreed, this is probably their best opportunity to capitalize, with the high fares/surcharges that come with BA. At least this flight is being advertised locally! I noticed that last year that even a week out, their fares didn't dramatically increase like you would have expected them to. It's funny how much has changed within a year's time. I did notice while looking at some itineraries for the summer, that DE now has a basic economy option that doesn't come with a checked bag, and as their overhead bins aren't large enough for a standard carry on, there will be little choice but to "upgrade."

Slightly unrelated, but there seems to be a massive fare sale going on right now for flights this spring between PIT and major European cities, with most being in the low $500's r/t on AA/DL/UA for basic economy.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:10 am

G4 now has summer seasonal available for PIT-TYS. I find this very interesting to see the viability of this route. Has not operated since 2003. I’m sure that this is partially directed at PIT tourist traffic traveling to the Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg/Great Smoky Mountains Area. The vast majority of this traffic currently is driving. Further, the route through West Virginia is not the most direct and is somewhere around 7 hours. Still not a route I had predicted at all.
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:43 am

It would sure be interesting to know why PIT uniquely got TYS whereas six or seven cities including CLE got BNA, many competing with WN. I think TYS is a great shot to take— tourism market ripe for stimulation, no competition.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:52 am

Allegiant doesn’t want to go head to head with southwest on the PIT-BNA route. They have the PIT-TYS route to themselves to build up passenger loads
 
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Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:01 pm

Yeah that’s clear delta28l but why do they want to go head to head on CLE BNA. What’s different about the two routes? CLE and PIT are so damn similar.
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:24 pm

Maybe there isn't anything different. Would G4 use this as an opportunity to try out two different things with two very similar markets and see how they do?

I certainly didn't see this coming!
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:41 pm

ncflyer wrote:
Yeah that’s clear delta28l but why do they want to go head to head on CLE BNA. What’s different about the two routes? CLE and PIT are so damn similar.

Other than similar passenger numbers I'll maintain that I don't think CLE and PIT are the similar markets anymore that most people believe. CLE being aligned more with the Midwest and PIT more with the Northeast and Europe, and the service patterns show it.

Having said that, G4 appears to be making a big push at BNA so who's to say PIT-BNA might not be added in the future?

As for TYS, I didn't expect it either but perhaps it should not be a surprise. Gatlinburg is appealing to yinzers and Asheville, another popular destination for Pghers, is only an hour from TYS.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:39 pm

PIT-TYS will run on Mondays and Fridays from May 17-August 12.

I'll too add that's one that I did not see coming. I'm wondering if G4 will end up basing a third A319 at PIT. Their summer schedule is getting pretty full.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:40 pm

Article in The Incline about Pittsburgh's short-lived first airport, Rodger's Field:

https://theincline.com/2019/02/13/a-pus ... t-airport/
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:03 am

July 2018 Intl LF

PIT-FRA DE 79% (1,142,797 lbs freight)
FRA-PIT DE 87% (1,130,576 lbs freight)

PIT-CDG DL 57% (2,431,330 lbs freight)
CDG-PIT DL 92% (2,431,330 lbs freight)

PIT-KEF WW 74%
KEF-PIT WW 83%

PIT-CUN WN 93% DL 84% VB 75% G4 71% AA 60%
CUN-PIT DL 98% WN 86% VB 71% AA 68% G4 65%

PIT-PUJ G4 85%
PUJ-PIT G4 91% WQ 59%

PIT-POP G4 68%
POP-PIT G4 65%

PIT-YYZ AC 71%
YYZ-PIT AC 86%

PIT-YUL AC 73%
YUL-PIT AC 75%

Some observations...
1. Cargo leveled out for both CDG and FRA, but loads really didn't, mainly with CDG. If August shows the same story for the outbound to Paris, I think it'll be even more clear as to why it was dropped.
2. WN had a pretty good month on CUN. They even beat out DL on the outbound.
3. Best month for YUL so far. It seems to be about even now with YYZ.
4. With AC dropping Air Georgian, I would like to see them try a CRJ9 or E175 on one of the four daily flights to YYZ, considering CLT and RDU are seeing upgrades. Although Jazz taking over and simply remaining all-CRJ2 is probably what's gonna happen.

And since I'm impatient, I'll throw in numbers for the West Coast.
Oct 2018 Domestic LF

PIT-LAX WN 84% NK 88%
LAX-PIT WN 84% NK 85%

PIT-SLC DL 89%
SLC-PIT DL 89%

PIT-SFO UA 86%
SFO-PIT UA 87%

PIT-SAN F9 84%
SAN-PIT F9 86%

PIT-SEA AS 81%
SEA-PIT AS 87%

1. Really surprised to see F9 jump way up on SAN. Same with NK on LAX.
2. SLC with yet another great month. I don't think the inbound or outbound has dipped below 87% yet.
3. SFO and SEA seemed to do better than they did the prior month. Solid numbers for both.

Overall, West Coast numbers are better than I expected.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:34 pm

Anyone have any ideas of how the loads are looking for BA's inaugural flights? We're roughly 45 days away from the first flight to LHR.
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:11 pm

Runway28L wrote:
1. Really surprised to see F9 jump way up on SAN. Same with NK on LAX.
2. SLC with yet another great month. I don't think the inbound or outbound has dipped below 87% yet.
3. SFO and SEA seemed to do better than they did the prior month. Solid numbers for both.


I'd think it pretty obvious that something like SAN will take some time to build up and do better in the summer. Makes me even more frustrated that F9 dropped that and MCO. With a little time and marking (both of which it seems is not their style) this probably could have been sustainable, at least for a seasonal flight. Glad to see SLC/SFO/SEA doing decently well too.

steeler83 wrote:
Anyone have any ideas of how the loads are looking for BA's inaugural flights? We're roughly 45 days away from the first flight to LHR.


I saw another ~$500 round trip to Madrid that included the inaugural BA flight to LHR. If only... how cool would that be?
 
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:44 pm

Runway28L wrote:
July 2018 Intl LF

PIT-FRA DE 79% (1,142,797 lbs freight)
FRA-PIT DE 87% (1,130,576 lbs freight)

PIT-CDG DL 57% (2,431,330 lbs freight)
CDG-PIT DL 92% (2,431,330 lbs freight)

PIT-KEF WW 74%
KEF-PIT WW 83%


PIT-SAN F9 84%
SAN-PIT F9 86%


1. Really surprised to see F9 jump way up on SAN. Same with NK on LAX.

I'm even more surprised F9 would drop the route. They would have sold practically every seat if it was operated with an A320.

Here are some comparisons with PIT's peer cities on flights to Europe. I did not include DE since they don't fly to what I would consider any of PIT's peer cities.

CVG-CDG 77%
CDG-CVG 90%

IND-CDG 50%
CDG-IND 92%

CLE-KEF 71% (FI) 67% (WW)
KEF-CLE 84% (FI) 85% (WW)

CVG-KEF 73%
KEF-CVG 87%

STL-KEF 67%
KEF-STL 81%


Also some of F9's other SAN routes:
IND-SAN 80%
SAN-IND 88%

CLE-SAN 85%
SAN-CLE 87%

CVG-SAN 80%
SAN-CVG 91%

So PIT fared very well in comparison, especially with Europe.

Take the payload figures to/from CDG with a grain of salt - all the segments I compared showed "2,431,330 lbs". Its either a miraculous coincidence or more likely a filing error. Furthermore, that is not "freight", but "payload" which includes passengers and their bags. Unfortunately DL carried zero freight or mail eastbound and only 108,615 lbs westbound, significantly less than our peer cities. Condor carried almost no freight/mail eastbound and 116,252 westbound. If you add the westbound DL and DE cargo figures together then the numbers approach the westbound DL cargo figures to IND and CVG.

I do find it interesting that DE carried more cargo on 3 weekly flights than DL did on 7 weekly flights. The DE cargo figures are almost double what they carried in June so maybe they are building on something.





Amazon officially canned their HQ2 plans for NYC. I think I'm starting to like AOC.

"Some of Amazon's HQ2 jobs could be coming to Pittsburgh"
"Amazon announced Thursday that it would no longer be establishing an 8 million-square-foot campus in New York City as part of its HQ2. Instead, the 25,000 jobs that were forecasted for New York will be spread across 17 tech hubs around the United States and Canada, including Pittsburgh, according to a statement from an Amazon spokesperson. "
https://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/news/2019/02/14/some-of-amazons-hq2-jobs-could-be-coming-to.html
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Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2019

Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:59 pm

Remainder of the domestic network for October 2018.

Southwest Airlines
PIT-ATL 81% ATL-PIT 69%
PIT-BWI 79% BWI-PIT 77%
PIT-MDW 80% MDW-PIT 75%
PIT-DAL 82% DAL-PIT 90%
PIT-DEN 90% DEN-PIT 92%
PIT-FLL 85% FLL-PIT 91%
PIT-RSW 88% RSW-PIT 75%
PIT-HOU 88% HOU-PIT 90%
PIT-LAS 94% LAS-PIT 92%
PIT-LAX 84% LAX-PIT 84%
PIT-BNA 86% BNA-PIT 84%
PIT-MSY 76% MSY-PIT 91%
PIT-MCO 86% MCO-PIT 81%
PIT-PHX 96% PHX-PIT 95%
PIT-STL 89% STL-PIT 93%
PIT-TPA 83% TPA-PIT 78%

American Airlines
PIT-BOS 83% BOS-PIT 78%
PIT-CLT 80% CLT-PIT 85.67%
PIT-ORD 75% ORD-PIT 75%
PIT-DFW 83% DFW-PIT 80%
PIT-MIA 91% MIA-PIT 88.5%
PIT-JFK 73% JFK-PIT 77%
PIT-LGA 68.5% LGA-PIT 72%
PIT-PHL 78.5% PHL-PIT 83%
PIT-PHX 89% PHX-PIT 91%
PIT-RDU 74.5% RDU-PIT 71%
PIT-DCA 81.3% DCA-PIT 77.3%

Delta Air Lines
PIT-ATL 85% ATL-PIT 83%
PIT-BOS 78.5% BOS-PIT 78.5%
PIT-DTW 77.25% DTW-PIT 83.25%
PIT-MSP 77% MSP-PIT 78%
PIT-JFK 77.3% JFK-PIT 72.67%
PIT-LGA 72% LGA-PIT 66.5%
PIT-SLC 89% SLC-PIT 89%

United Airlines
PIT-ORD 85% ORD-PIT 87.7%
PIT-DEN 93% DEN-PIT 90%
PIT-IAH 87.25% IAH-PIT 85.5%
PIT-EWR 73.5% EWR-PIT 76%
PIT-SFO 86% SFO-PIT 87%
PIT-IAD 69.5% IAD-PIT 73.50%

JetBlue Airways
PIT-BOS 76% BOS-PIT 76%
PIT-FLL 79% FLL-PIT 81%

Allegiant Air
PIT-CHS 79% CHS-PIT 78%
PIT-VPS 68% VPS-PIT 67%
PIT-JAX 90% JAX-PIT 87%
PIT-PGB 92% PGB-PIT 85%
PIT-SFB 95% SFB-PIT 92%
PIT-SRQ 87% SRQ-PIT 84%
PIT-SAV 76% SAV-PIT 81%
PIT-PIE 85% PIE-PIT 79%

Spirit Airlines
PIT-FLL 81% FLL-PIT 81%
PIT-LAS 78% LAS-PIT 83%
PIT-LAX 88% LAX-PIT 85%
PIT-MYR 81% MYR-PIT 85%
PIT-MCO 92% MCO-PIT 91%
PIT-TPA 77% TPA-PIT 74%

Alaska Airlines
PIT-SEA 81% SEA-PIT 87%

Frontier Airlines
PIT-DEN 93% DEN-PIT 88%
PIT-MCO 89% MCO-PIT 86%
PIT-SAN 84% SAN-PIT 86%

Southern Airways Express
PIT-AOO 38% AOO-PIT 43%
PIT-BFD 41% BFD-PIT 43%
PIT-DUJ 35% DUJ-PIT 36%
PIT-FKL 23% FKL-PIT 26%
PIT-HGR 50% HGR-PIT 36%
PIT-JST 29% JST-PIT 29%
PIT-LNS 56% LNS-PIT 57%
PIT-MGW 32% MGW-PIT 36%
PIT-AVP 31% AVP-PIT 34%

flyPIT wrote:
Take the payload figures to/from CDG with a grain of salt - all the segments I compared showed "2,431,330 lbs". Its either a miraculous coincidence or more likely a filing error. Furthermore, that is not "freight", but "payload" which includes passengers and their bags. Unfortunately DL carried zero freight or mail eastbound and only 108,615 lbs westbound, significantly less than our peer cities. Condor carried almost no freight/mail eastbound and 116,252 westbound. If you add the westbound DL and DE cargo figures together then the numbers approach the westbound DL cargo figures to IND and CVG.

I do find it interesting that DE carried more cargo on 3 weekly flights than DL did on 7 weekly flights. The DE cargo figures are almost double what they carried in June so maybe they are building on something.

Just curious, where did you get that info from?
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