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Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:28 pm

Happy new year to all! Lets continue our discussions related to the Arabian aviation here. Moderators, please lock 2018's thread.

Link to previous thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1382419&hilit=arabian+aviation+thread
 
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:53 am

Happy New Year Everyone !

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Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:10 am

Saudia suspended regular twice weekly JED-TRV and weekly RUH-TRV services, effective 30-Dec-2018
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:11 am

-Saudia to deploy 787-9 on services to Guangzhou in summer 2019

-Flynas carried 6.6m pax onboard 60k flights in 2018
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:47 am

-All domestic flights will move to the new JED T1 by second half of 2019

-New JED T1 operator will be appointed ‘by second half of 2019’
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:43 am

Swissport wins contracts from KLM, IndiGo, SalamAir, flydubai and Fly Jordan for services at JED, RUH & DMM

- SGS is losing marketshare :down:


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Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:33 pm

KSAAirliner wrote:
-All domestic flights will move to the new JED T1 by second half of 2019

-New JED T1 operator will be appointed ‘by second half of 2019’


What about international flights
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:29 pm

UAE and India will be meeting to negotiate the air bilateral agreement.

Source: https://www.arabianbusiness.com/transpo ... ir-traffic
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 3:44 am

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What about international flights



GACA did not provide the updated timeline for the international operation yet, however they are working on appointing the airport operator and privatizing it to be a profitable entity like Riyadh Airports Company.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:05 pm

Etihad has phased out 5 A330-200s (A6-EYE, A6-EYD, A6-EYI, A6-EYL and A6-EYM) along with 4 A330-300s (A6-AFC, A6-AFD, A6-AFE, A6-AFF).

11 A332s will remain in service until November.
2 A333s will remain in servive until March. (Currently serving Milan, Male and Bangalore)
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:25 pm

Are these A330s being directly replaced by 350/787s or is their overall fleet shrinking?
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:40 pm

Blerg wrote:
Are these A330s being directly replaced by 350/787s or is their overall fleet shrinking?


I guess they are getting directly replaced by B787, they have 20 B789 and 26 B787-10 remaining on order.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:14 pm

Czech Airlines and Saudia commenced codesharing on the following services in the week of 24-Dec-2018.

Operated by CSA:
PRG-FRA, PRG-MXP, PRG-CDG and PRG-FCO
Operated by Saudia:
JED-FRA, JED-MXP, JED-CDG, JED-FCO, RUH-FRA, RUH-MXP, RUH-CDG and RUH-FCO


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Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:32 pm

Great start of the year for Flyadeal:

-flyadeal opens Riyadh base
-flyadeal to receive 11th A320 in Jan-2019
-flyadeal commences four services from Dammam

DMM-AHB
DMM-RUH
DMM-GIZ
DMM-MED


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Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:08 pm

Top 20 Medium Airports by OTP - Dammam Airport DMM in the 2nd place

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Top 20 Large Airports by OTP - Riyadh Airport RUH in the 11th place

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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:12 am

From 28.06.2019 Air Arabia will link Sharjah with Belgrade. They will operate 4 weekly flights.

Flight number: G9811/813
Departure city: SHJ
Departure time: 09.00 (-2--5--), 15.45 (---4-6-)
Arrival time: 13.00 (-2--5--), 19.45 (---4-6-)
Arrival city: BEG
Aircraft type: A320
Day operating: -2-456-

RETURN

Flight number: G8812/814
Departure city: BEG
Departure time: 13.40 (-2--5--), 21.45 (---4-6-)
Arrival time: 21.00 (-2--5--), 05.05 (----5-7)
Arrival city: SHJ
Aircraft type: A320
Day operating: -2-456-
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:50 am

Just curious....
With Etihad, Emirates and Turkish Cargo serving or having served the Puerto Rican market, how much longer you guys think Puerto Rico will see Arabian airline service (of any type, that is)?

Also, how far down is my local, Phoenix market on these airlines' lists??

Oh yeah...any plans for further expansion into Latin America or Spain by Arabian airline companies? (Panama, Mexico, Sevilla, etc whatever?)

Thanks! God bless!
 
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Mon Jan 07, 2019 10:06 am

AntonioMartin wrote:
Just curious....
With Etihad, Emirates and Turkish Cargo serving or having served the Puerto Rican market, how much longer you guys think Puerto Rico will see Arabian airline service (of any type, that is)?


Ummm never? SJU is a very small market to Europe, so for the ME and Asia it would be even smaller.

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any plans for further expansion into Latin America or Spain by Arabian airline companies? (Panama, Mexico, Sevilla, etc whatever?)


Sevilla is popular for ME and Asian tourists, but the problem with Sevilla is that most of those tourists will tour at least Sevilla-Granada-Córdoba. Córdoba is close to MAD and Granada close to AGP. So most of "long-haul" tourists to Sevilla will easily travel via MAD or AGP. SVQ could be a candidate for Turkish, but not for a ME3.

Regarding, ME3 the most logical additions would be EK for AGP and QR for ALC. AGP is very popular for GCCers in summer (there is Qatar, Saudia and Kuwait flying there), so Emirates would be the next logical addition. There have been rumours about Qatar adding ALC. Since QR already serves AGP, ALC is the next busiest airport in mainland Spain after MAD/BCN/AGP, so it would make also sense.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:50 pm

GACA allows 3rd airline to ferry Filipinos to Hajj pilgrimage 2019

-Historically, only Saudia and Philippine Airlines were allowed to transport Filipino pilgrims.


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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:07 am

Haramain High-Speed Railway considering 30 daily trips between Mecca and Medina by Hajj Season 2019

-A trip every half an hour and the railway would have a capacity to carry 30 million passengers annually between the two holy cities.

Saudia and Flynas are facing difficult domestic competition with this huge capacity suddenly added in JED-MED route :hissyfit:


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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:54 am

Starting 8th of Jan, 2019 Saudia introduces Bistro service in Economy Class onboard MAD flights

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Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:58 am

What is the point of bistro? Doesn't Saudia already offer complimentary meals onboard its planes?
 
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:52 pm

Air France to cancel its flights to Riyadh
 
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:21 pm

AntonioMartin wrote:
Just curious....
With Etihad, Emirates and Turkish Cargo serving or having served the Puerto Rican market, how much longer you guys think Puerto Rico will see Arabian airline service (of any type, that is)?

Also, how far down is my local, Phoenix market on these airlines' lists??

Oh yeah...any plans for further expansion into Latin America or Spain by Arabian airline companies? (Panama, Mexico, Sevilla, etc whatever?)

Thanks! God bless!


There’s virtually no market there - it’s a fuel stop. In order to depar UIO full of flowers to AMS the fuel payload is at minimum due airport elevation in Quito.
EK used to use CUR as the stop, now it’s BQN. CCS would have been perfect in a different century for two obvious reasons.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:03 pm

Blerg wrote:
What is the point of bistro? Doesn't Saudia already offer complimentary meals onboard its planes?



This is a new service concept for Economy class dining experience noting that not so many airlines if any offer it Saudia's bistro way,

Welcoming service
-Traditional Arabic coffee and Saudi Arabian dates.
-Warm towel service
-Refreshment (cold drink)
Food service (restaurant style no tray service)
-Entree
-Main course
-Dessert
-Hot drinks service
-Snack (+6hr flights)
 
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:52 pm

KSAAirliner wrote:
Blerg wrote:


Saudi Arabian dates.

Do they allow you to date Saudia flight attendants on these?? :D :lol:
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:31 pm

Air France to upgrade DXB from 77W to A380
 
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:53 pm

UAEflyer wrote:
Air France to upgrade DXB from 77W to A380



Just for a limited time only. They are currently flying it to DXB.
 
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:39 pm

xwb777 wrote:
UAEflyer wrote:
Air France to upgrade DXB from 77W to A380



Just for a limited time only. They are currently flying it to DXB.



For how long, and where does it park? I don't think I've ever seen an A380 at T1
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:44 am

Saudia adjusts operational equipment for summer 2019 Frankfurt schedule
JED-FRA A330R effective 01-Jun-2019 to 08-Sep-2019
RUH-FRA A330R effective 02-Jun-2019 to 08-Sep-2019


BOC Aviation delivered the final of three A320-200 aircraft to Saudia
-The aircraft will be operated by flyadeal.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:54 am

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Air France to cancel its flights to Riyadh



I saw this coming ! AF is already codesharing with SV on CDG-RUH route, also AF can't compete with SV in terms of products on this route!
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:17 am

This thread has turned into nothing but a constant advertisement for Saudia. :scratchchin:
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:24 am

olba wrote:
xwb777 wrote:
UAEflyer wrote:
Air France to upgrade DXB from 77W to A380



Just for a limited time only. They are currently flying it to DXB.



For how long, and where does it park? I don't think I've ever seen an A380 at T1


It has been flying the route since January 1. It parks at Terminal 1, concourse D.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:31 am

bgm wrote:
This thread has turned into nothing but a constant advertisement for Saudia. :scratchchin:


I agree. Nothing wrong with that though.. however, the title of the thread must change to Saudia aviation.
 
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:29 am

bgm wrote:
This thread has turned into nothing but a constant advertisement for Saudia. :scratchchin:


Sorry, you are in the Arabian Aviation Thread, so what do you expect to find? I understand that to many western people Arabian Aviation means only the B3G carriers as they don't have the knowledge of the region markets and only look for big brands, however Saudi Arabia is a big player in the international Arabian market and has the biggest Arabian domestic market.!
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:37 am

KSAAirliner wrote:
bgm wrote:
This thread has turned into nothing but a constant advertisement for Saudia. :scratchchin:


Sorry, you are in the Arabian Aviation Thread, so what do you expect to find? I understand that to many western people Arabian Aviation means only the B3G carriers as they don't have the knowledge of the region markets and only look for big brands, however Saudi Arabia is a big player in the international Arabian market and has the biggest Arabian domestic market.!


First of all, where did I say that I am 'western people'? That's a false assumption on your part.

Is it really necessary to tell us, for example, that Saudia are removing trays from their meal service? :spin:

Do you work for Saudia? I think it is only right you disclose this if you are an employee/PR.
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Re: Arabian Aviation Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:47 am

bgm wrote:
KSAAirliner wrote:
bgm wrote:
This thread has turned into nothing but a constant advertisement for Saudia. :scratchchin:


Sorry, you are in the Arabian Aviation Thread, so what do you expect to find? I understand that to many western people Arabian Aviation means only the B3G carriers as they don't have the knowledge of the region markets and only look for big brands, however Saudi Arabia is a big player in the international Arabian market and has the biggest Arabian domestic market.!


First of all, where did I say that I am 'western people'? That's a false assumption on your part.

Is it really necessary to tell us, for example, that Saudia are removing trays from their meal service? :spin:

Do you work for Saudia? I think it is only right you disclose this if you are an employee/PR.



I didn't tell you specifically as you see i was answering another user question on the Bistro service, anyhow, you can skip my posts in this thread and simply don't read them, I believe this forum is offering the freedom to anyone to participate about the aviation news they are passionate about and I think i'm in the right thread as all of the carriers in my country, Saudia, Flynas, SaudiGulf, Nesma and Flyadeal are Arabian brands! :)

Thank you.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:52 am

KSAAirliner wrote:
bgm wrote:
KSAAirliner wrote:

Sorry, you are in the Arabian Aviation Thread, so what do you expect to find? I understand that to many western people Arabian Aviation means only the B3G carriers as they don't have the knowledge of the region markets and only look for big brands, however Saudi Arabia is a big player in the international Arabian market and has the biggest Arabian domestic market.!


First of all, where did I say that I am 'western people'? That's a false assumption on your part.

Is it really necessary to tell us, for example, that Saudia are removing trays from their meal service? :spin:

Do you work for Saudia? I think it is only right you disclose this if you are an employee/PR.



I didn't tell you specifically as you see i was answering another user question on the Bistro service, anyhow, you can skip my posts in this thread and simply don't read them, I believe this forum is offering the freedom to anyone to participate about the aviation news they are passionate about and I think i'm in the right thread as all of the carriers in my country, Saudia, Flynas, SaudiGulf, Nesma and Flyadeal are Arabian brands! :)

Thank you.


Fair enough :)

I appreciate your input and i follow this thread because it's interesting. Good to see the Saudi aviation market expanding.
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:29 pm

-Saudia records 33m pax in 2018

-flynas to receive 12 A320neo aircraft in 2019
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:04 pm

What about RJ? GF? WY? KU? For that matter IR, W5 or EP? :D
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:31 pm

The other day I saw on FR24 that some airline (can't remember now) flew over Syria for a bit. Is the entire airspace closed off for traffic? On the other hand, what's going on with Iran, is its airspace fully used right now or are some airlines still avoiding it?
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:25 pm

VTCIE wrote:
What about RJ? GF? WY? KU? For that matter IR, W5 or EP? :D


RJ is supposed to receive two A319 ex Rossiya. One is already painted for two months now but he is in DME I don't know why.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:44 pm

RJ was supposed to announce an order for 22 narrow body aircraft by the end of September 2018. It seems that they are still looking for the perfect aircraft. RJ management is exploring and assessing what Airbus, Boeing and Embraer has to offer.
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:26 pm

xwb777 wrote:
RJ was supposed to announce an order for 22 narrow body aircraft by the end of September 2018. It seems that they are still looking for the perfect aircraft. RJ management is exploring and assessing what Airbus, Boeing and Embraer has to offer.


I highly doubt the Embraer is really under consideration as the largest is too small for their requirements especially on trunk routes to Jeddah, Riyadh, Dubai, unless they want to increase frequencies further year round ? I would think the A320Neo is the best way for crew familiarity. They just want to make sure they get the best deal due to the size of the order. It would be prudent to consolidate the fleet around two types (A320Neo, 787) to save money
 
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:38 pm

Blerg wrote:
The other day I saw on FR24 that some airline (can't remember now) flew over Syria for a bit. Is the entire airspace closed off for traffic? On the other hand, what's going on with Iran, is its airspace fully used right now or are some airlines still avoiding it?


Middle East Airlines and Iraqi Airways never stopped flying over Syria. No other airlines do it, which is obviously the more reasonable choice.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:38 pm

First A321neo for Air Arabia, also in new livery spotted at XFW

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Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:10 pm

The livery looks a bit disjointed around the tail-fuselage join. Like it does not have flow to it... Just me? Maybe just the angle in this picture.
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:32 pm

Emirates SkyCargo will launch freighter flights to Bogota from 16 January 2019.
 
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Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:33 pm

NEOM airport welcomes its first Saudia flight

-SV operated two A320 charter flights to Sharma airport (OENN) today



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Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:24 am

Kuwait Airways JFK flights moved to KWI’s T4 and the Shannon stopover is eliminated (back to being a non-stop flight) as of this morning.

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