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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 20, 2019 12:52 pm

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Central America -

Month: Cent Am Region managed 34K pax on 46k seats and 313 flights for an average of 74.07%. Note in Massport numbers, I believe B6's counts go to Caribbean, not Central America.

Route Rankings (top 5)

B6 - CUN #1 with 86.91% on 7K pax and 130 per flight
DL - CUN - #2 with 83.45% on 1k pax and 159 per flight
AA - CUN - #3 with 83.44% on 1k pax and 134 per flight
AM - MEX - #4 with 78.90% on 7k pax and 126 per flight
TA - SAL #5 with 76.81% on 4k pax and 115 per flight

*B6 MEX is still not doing well, first full month pulled in a 54.96% 67.63% outbound and 42% inbound.


YTD: Cent Am Region managed 319K pax on 388k seats and 2,559 flights for an average of 82.1 %. All routes managed 80%+ except for AM, TA and B6 MEX

CUN – 3 airlines on the route, 2 seasonal
DL – 93.35% on 32K pax and 146 per flight
AA – 91.22% on 11K pax and 146 per flight
B6 – 87.35% on 58K pax and 132 per flight

LIR – B6 – Seasonal, 90.46% during the season, 138 per flight

PTY – 81,9% but considering this is now above daily, a great result 120K pax and 120 per flight
MEX
AM – 77.7% on 74K pax and 124 pax per flight
B6– 54.94% on 6K pax and 83 pax per flight

SAL – 74% on 13K pax and 109 per flight

Airlines – YTD rankings only

In terms of comparatives, BOS ranked the following: numbers in ( ) are how many in each listing

CM – 9th (14) – 1.3% behind SFO, and 1.3% ahead of ORD in 10th, top was JFK with 91%
AM – 8th (17) – 1.7% behind DEN in 7th and 0.3% ahead of LAS in 9th, top was LAX with 85%
TA – 10th (11) – 2% ahead of ORD and 2.9% behind MIA, winner was IAD with 87.18%, 13% higher.


Instead of or in addition to MEX, B6 should seriously consider PVR. Especially seasonally. Seats to this market are selling like hot cakes.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 20, 2019 5:32 pm

VS4ever wrote:
*B6 MEX is still not doing well, first full month pulled in a 54.96% 67.63% outbound and 42% inbound.


adamh8297 wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
T-100's are out for November (for International),

More details in the file.. enjoy..


Thanks as always! Also B6 BOS-HAV was 57%. It is the first month and usually the first return flight back on these seasonals (HAV-BOS) is light. December should be better but the BOS-HAV leg was only 67% for the month.


Dieuwer wrote:
Instead of or in addition to MEX, B6 should seriously consider PVR. Especially seasonally. Seats to this market are selling like hot cakes.


Thanks VS4 ever!

Do you know if AM was still running BOS-MEX in November? If so, then I would expect these numbers to improve once we see data for periods after AM left the market. That said, I still think that BOS-MEX - daily - is overkill.

Interestingly enough, over 50% of B6's point-of-sale on MEX-FLL/MCO is MEX-originating. So perhaps as more locals get to learn about this new service (along with the new daily JFK flights), then loads will improve. However, with AM/DL and a bunch of LCC's dominating MEX in general, it will continue to be a challenge.

Frankly I'm surprised BOS-HAV was even above 50% LF. Do the E190's (and, later, the A220's) have the legs to make this journey? B6 currently uses the E190 on JFK-HAV, which I suspect helps them get somewhat higher yields (and LF).

I think the issue with PVR is that it's just so far from the East Coast with no meaningful traffic other than sun-seekers trying to escape the cold. But, for that, Bostonians and New Yorkers have a slew of other options in the (much-closer....and, IMO, nicer) Caribbean islands. I just don't see how B6 could turn a profit in a low-yielding beach market that is just as long as a transcon.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 20, 2019 5:40 pm

jetbluefan1 wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
*B6 MEX is still not doing well, first full month pulled in a 54.96% 67.63% outbound and 42% inbound.


adamh8297 wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
T-100's are out for November (for International),

More details in the file.. enjoy..


Thanks as always! Also B6 BOS-HAV was 57%. It is the first month and usually the first return flight back on these seasonals (HAV-BOS) is light. December should be better but the BOS-HAV leg was only 67% for the month.


Dieuwer wrote:
Instead of or in addition to MEX, B6 should seriously consider PVR. Especially seasonally. Seats to this market are selling like hot cakes.


Thanks VS4 ever!

Do you know if AM was still running BOS-MEX in November? If so, then I would expect these numbers to improve once we see data for periods after AM left the market. That said, I still think that BOS-MEX - daily - is overkill.



https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... o%20boston, according to this, last flight was supposed to be 1/7
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 20, 2019 5:53 pm

VS4ever wrote:
T-100's are out for November (for International),

WS did report, but still have not filled in for October so Canada numbers are still not correct for Quarter or YTD.

Report Set Up
1. Analysis is Month, quarter, YTD and Month by Month
2. 2, Summary Page by Region
3 BOS pages – showing routes from Boston only
4 Airline Pages – showing all routes by carrier for foreign flag carriers serving Boston, I have ignored AC for the time being as they are super complicated to fix up.
5 File link: https://drive.google.com/open?id=158fLj ... eN10_RI6m1
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Comparatives will not match Massport numbers, for a number of reasons, including charter airlines being removed, diverts being removed, categorization differences to say but a few

I have also added a 17 vs 18 comparison by destination so you can see the growth or reduction by route a little more clearly over 2017.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1p_PuN ... bqjKZTjLHB

Caribbean

Month: Season starting to build for the region 67k pax on 543 flights with 83K seats for an average load of 81.2%, best routes were SJU and PUJ which managed 90+%, the remaining routes all posted 70% with the exception of BDA which managed 65% on B6 and 69% on DL Avg. Pax were 124, 7th highest of the year so far. Please note, these numbers are significantly lower than Massport, as I believe B6 reports all their numbers under Caribbean rather than Central America for certain routes.

YTD: 894k pax on 1.06m seats and 7,078 flights for a 84.25% load Unsurprisingly B6 takes the lion’s share of the market pulling 788K of that, DL ran 92K, then AA with around 14K. From a volume standpoint SJU still rules the roost at 203K, followed by AUA with 155K and BDA with 136K,

From a load standpoint,

Top 5 are 1) BGI (90.91%) on 18K pax, 2) PUJ (90.34%) on 70K pax 3) POP (89.31%) on 6K pax, 4) SDQ (88.31%) on 103K pax and 5) UVF (87.89%) on 6K pax.

Bottom 5 are 1) BDA (72.73%) on 136K pax, 2) PLS (82.45%) on 20K pax, 3) STI (82.64%) on 86K pax, 4) PAP (82.65%) on 25K pax and 5) NAS (86.08%) on 29K pax

Canada -

Month only due to WS not reporting their October numbers

YYZ - Sky regional takes the market share with 17,664 pax, and a 82.51% load. 2nd was AC with 12,250 and 78.64% (but using an average of 96 seats) and WS with 8k pax and a 61% load (average of 47 per flight)

YHZ - Sky gained 5,675 pax at 62.72%, WS managed 2,538 at 55.15%

Jazz:
YUL 13,175 pax at a 74.82% load
YOW 2,664 pax at 60.55%

YTZ - PD, pulled in 16,000 pax at 72.37% load


Airlines – YTD rankings only for PD

PD –Month BOS was #2 station with 72.37%, behind EWR with 74.36%, but BOS has 1/2 the flights.
YTD - BOS was #1 station with 73.98% followed by EWR with 70.43%, but double the flights

Europe -

Month: Winter season hits for the Europe Region 259K pax on 320k seats and 1,213 flights for an average of 81.07%., three routes didn't break 70% for the month DL - LHR (64.74%, 54 flights). DY - CDG (67.4%), SK (46.11%)
Level to BCN again posted over 90%, closely followed by AF with 89.29%, LH - FRA with 88.61% and DL AMS with 87.59%

YTD: 3.6m pax on 4.28M seats and 16,290 flights for a 83,97% load, two routes have averaged above 90% for YTD across their carriers, that would be IB (Level) and DY/DI (LGW), SK continues to be in the basement and has averaged barely over 60% for the year and 6 more routes averaged under 80% for the year.

Top 5 are 1) BCN (93.25%) on 52K pax, 2) LGW (90.97%) on 192K pax 3) AMS (87.82%) on 255K pax, 4) CDG (87.46%) on 375K pax (AF #1 with 89.91%) and 5) FCO (87.40%) on 111K pax.

Bottom 5 are 1) CPH (61.75%) on 51K pax, 2) RAI (74.26%) on 12K pax, 3) TER (75.84%) on 22K pax, 4) STN (76.65%) on 10K pax and 5) MAN (78.14%) on 43K pax (MT won with 80.96%)

Airlines – YTD rankings only

In terms of comparatives, BOS ranked the following: numbers in ( ) are how many in each listing

AF – 2nd (13) – 89.91% JFK 1st (just 0,05% ahead, but with triple the flights and SFO currently 3rd
AZ - 3rd (6) – 87.57% however less than 1% separates 1st to 5th
BA – 12th (22) - 81.97%, ahead of SAN now and behind DFW, #1 was SEA which continues to be 6% ahead with LAS moving up to #2
DL - AMS – 6th (13) 87.82%, ahead of LAX and behind SEA which overtook BOS this month, #1 ATL, #2 JFK
DL - CDG – 9th (14) – 84.67% slipped behind MSP now and ahead of LAS and RDU, #1 LAX 5% ahead, #2 EWR, less than 3% difference between EWR and BOS.
DL – LHR – 7th (9) – 76.10%, ahead of JFK, behind SEA (only had a couple of flights) and DTW, #1 SLC by 10% from BOS, #2 MSP
DL - DUB - 3rd (3) – 74.48% was significantly lower than the other two pretty good and also using smaller aircraft than JFK/ATL, ATL #1
DY - LGW - 1st (11) – 90.97% ahead of JFK as #2 (90.32%) and LAS as #3 (88.59%)
DY - CDG – 4th (7) – 85.28%, dropped behind MCO by 0.4%, but still ahead of FLL, #1 was JFK roughly 5% ahead
EI - DUB & SNN – 2nd and 12th (14) – 86.81% and 80.2%, winner was JFK with SEA continuing as #3
FI - 2nd (18) .82.09%, only SEA ahead by about 2.4%, EWR continues as #3, bottom 3 are CLE, MCI and DFW
IB - MAD - 4th (7) – 83,93%, dropped behind LAX, JFK and MIA continue to lead, with SJU bringing up the rear, interesting ORD & SFO were also less than 80%
IB (Level) - BCN - 1st (3) 93.25%, have to surely give consideration to at least 1 more frequency?
LH - FRA – 3rd (19) 87.14% behind, LAX and EWR, ahead of SEA and SFO, SAN/PHL and ATL at the bottom
LH - MUC -3rd (10) with 83.71%, behind LAX and EWR, ahead of ORD, CLT didn't make 80%, unlike the other MUC routes, MIA-DUS & JFK-TXL, less than 70%
LX – 3rd (7) – 85.71%, 1% behind MIA in first and SFO in 2nd. Running ahead of LAX by about 0.2%
MT - 7th (7) – 80.96% - way lower than all the other routes, sadly unsurprising why it was cut.
SK - 6th (6) -61.75%, last by over 10%, this one can’t survive surely unless like DL with LHR they are getting a lot of upfront traffic? MIA-OSL at 66/21% gives hope
TP - 4th (4) – 86.37%, but only 2% behind EWR and on par with JFK.
VS - LHR 6th (9) – 76.37%, ahead of SEA, behind MIA (by 0.5%), winner was LAX with 80.88%
VS – MAN 6th (6) – 74.12%, 0.8% behind SFO and 6% behind JFK in #1.
WW - 4th (14) – 81.83%, 0.6% behind SFO in 3rd, 5% behind BWI in 1st and ahead of ORD by 1.5%

Middle East-

Month: Mid East Region managed 42K pax on 57k seats and 186 flights for an average of 75.24%.EK managed 265 pax per flight during the month, LY and TK managed over 83%

TK - #1 with 86.02% on 10k pax and 249 per flight
LY - #2 with 83.46% on 5.5k pax and 232 per flight
EK - #3 with 75.00% on 16k pax and 265 per flight
QR - #4 with 64.61% on 11K pax and 198 per flight


YTD: Mid East Region managed 554K pax on 656k seats and 2,191 flights for an average of 84.54%. EK managed 312 pax per flight during the year, all but QR posted above 80% for the year
EK - #1 with 88.133% on 208k pax and 312 per flight
TK - #2 with 86.81% on 150.5k pax and 251 per flight
LY - #3 with 82.07% on 47.5k pax and 184 per flight
QR - #4 with 78.72% on 148K pax and 222 per flight

Airlines – YTD rankings only

In terms of comparatives, BOS ranked the following: numbers in ( ) are how many in each listing

EK - 2nd (12) – 88.13%, 2% behind SEA in first and ahead of SFO and JFK. MCO continues to be last along with IAH
LY – 5th (5) – 82.07%, 1.6% behind LAX, #1 was JFK
QR – 3rd (10) – 78.72% 1.5% behind ATL, basement dweller was MIA with only 69%.
TK – 6th (9) – 86.81%, 2.5% behind LAX, ATL finished last at 75.67%

Asia-

Month: Asia Region managed 38K pax on 47k seats and 194 flights for an average of 81.23%. JL, CX and HU (PEK) managed over 82%, HU (PVG only managed 63%

CX - #1 with 88.59% on 14k pax and 243 per flight
JL - #2 with 85.00% on 10k pax and 165 per flight
HU – PEK - #3 with 82.92% on 7.5k pax and 180 per flight
HU - PVG - #4 with 63.16% on 6.1K pax and 182 per flight


YTD: Asia Region managed 482K pax on 583k seats and 2,311 flights for an average of 82.73%.

CX - #1 with 88.70% on 157k pax and 244 per flight
JL - #2 with 86.03% on 112k pax and 168 per flight
HU – PEK - #3 with 79.82% on 142k pax and 220 per flight
HU - PVG - #4 with 72.94% on 72K pax and 202 per flight
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Airlines – YTD rankings only

In terms of comparatives, BOS ranked the following: numbers in ( ) are how many in each listing

CX – 2nd (6) - best out of single daily flight destinations, 2,1% behind LAX who run triple daily and ahead of EWR by about 1%
JL - 4th (9) - 0.4% behind DFW (also a single daily destination) in 3rd, and 1.1% ahead of LAX in 5th
HU - PEK – 3rd (5) - 0.07% behind SJC, ORD was 77%, LAS 65%
HU - PVG only 1 comparative, which is SEA and a whopping 11% behind,

The Americas

Central America -

Month: Cent Am Region managed 34K pax on 46k seats and 313 flights for an average of 74.07%. Note in Massport numbers, I believe B6's counts go to Caribbean, not Central America.

Route Rankings (top 5)

B6 - CUN #1 with 86.91% on 7K pax and 130 per flight
DL - CUN - #2 with 83.45% on 1k pax and 159 per flight
AA - CUN - #3 with 83.44% on 1k pax and 134 per flight
AM - MEX - #4 with 78.90% on 7k pax and 126 per flight
TA - SAL #5 with 76.81% on 4k pax and 115 per flight

*B6 MEX is still not doing well, first full month pulled in a 54.96% 67.63% outbound and 42% inbound.


YTD: Cent Am Region managed 319K pax on 388k seats and 2,559 flights for an average of 82.1 %. All routes managed 80%+ except for AM, TA and B6 MEX

CUN – 3 airlines on the route, 2 seasonal
DL – 93.35% on 32K pax and 146 per flight
AA – 91.22% on 11K pax and 146 per flight
B6 – 87.35% on 58K pax and 132 per flight

LIR – B6 – Seasonal, 90.46% during the season, 138 per flight

PTY – 81,9% but considering this is now above daily, a great result 120K pax and 120 per flight
MEX
AM – 77.7% on 74K pax and 124 pax per flight
B6– 54.94% on 6K pax and 83 pax per flight

SAL – 74% on 13K pax and 109 per flight

Airlines – YTD rankings only

In terms of comparatives, BOS ranked the following: numbers in ( ) are how many in each listing

CM – 9th (14) – 1.3% behind SFO, and 1.3% ahead of ORD in 10th, top was JFK with 91%
AM – 8th (17) – 1.7% behind DEN in 7th and 0.3% ahead of LAS in 9th, top was LAX with 85%
TA – 10th (11) – 2% ahead of ORD and 2.9% behind MIA, winner was IAD with 87.18%, 13% higher.


South America –

Month: South Am Region managed 10K pax on 13.5k seats and 86 flights for an average of 76.66%.

JJ - #1 with 79.43% on 6k pax and 171 per flight
AV - #2 with 73.43% on 4.6k pax and 88 per flight


YTD: South Am Region managed 74K pax on 91k seats and 621 flights for an average of 81.17%.

JJ - #1 with 83.91% on 32K pax and 181 per flight
AV - #2 with 79.25% on 42.5K pax and 95 per flight

Airlines – YTD rankings only

In terms of comparatives, BOS ranked the following: numbers in ( ) are how many in each listing

AV – 7th (9) – 1.3% ahead of ORD and 3% behind IAD, top place went to FLL with 88.27%
JJ – 2nd (5) – 1.8% behind JFK as the leader and 4.5% ahead of LAS who was the basement route,

More details in the file.. enjoy..


Thank you! I love the analysis and the data!

With KE now starting, it will be interesting to watch the Asia numbers.
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 20, 2019 6:11 pm

jetbluefan1 wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
*B6 MEX is still not doing well, first full month pulled in a 54.96% 67.63% outbound and 42% inbound.


adamh8297 wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
T-100's are out for November (for International),

More details in the file.. enjoy..


Thanks as always! Also B6 BOS-HAV was 57%. It is the first month and usually the first return flight back on these seasonals (HAV-BOS) is light. December should be better but the BOS-HAV leg was only 67% for the month.


Dieuwer wrote:
Instead of or in addition to MEX, B6 should seriously consider PVR. Especially seasonally. Seats to this market are selling like hot cakes.


Thanks VS4 ever!

Do you know if AM was still running BOS-MEX in November? If so, then I would expect these numbers to improve once we see data for periods after AM left the market. That said, I still think that BOS-MEX - daily - is overkill.

Interestingly enough, over 50% of B6's point-of-sale on MEX-FLL/MCO is MEX-originating. So perhaps as more locals get to learn about this new service (along with the new daily JFK flights), then loads will improve. However, with AM/DL and a bunch of LCC's dominating MEX in general, it will continue to be a challenge.

Frankly I'm surprised BOS-HAV was even above 50% LF. Do the E190's (and, later, the A220's) have the legs to make this journey? B6 currently uses the E190 on JFK-HAV, which I suspect helps them get somewhat higher yields (and LF).

I think the issue with PVR is that it's just so far from the East Coast with no meaningful traffic other than sun-seekers trying to escape the cold. But, for that, Bostonians and New Yorkers have a slew of other options in the (much-closer....and, IMO, nicer) Caribbean islands. I just don't see how B6 could turn a profit in a low-yielding beach market that is just as long as a transcon.


An E-190 should be able to do BOS-HAV.

PVR resort area is massive (I was shocked at how large it was) and has both luxury resorts and super cheap resorts. Its never been cheap to fly there from BOS! I paid $670 in 2010 and had to go through LAX to save money. Its only 130 miles more than BOS-LIR though a bit more east/west and food and drink in Guanacaste is cheaper that Puerto Vallarta. On the other hand SJD was the most expensive place I ever visited in Mexico and January is cold there!
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Mon May 20, 2019 6:19 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
jetbluefan1 wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
*B6 MEX is still not doing well, first full month pulled in a 54.96% 67.63% outbound and 42% inbound.


adamh8297 wrote:

Thanks as always! Also B6 BOS-HAV was 57%. It is the first month and usually the first return flight back on these seasonals (HAV-BOS) is light. December should be better but the BOS-HAV leg was only 67% for the month.


Dieuwer wrote:
Instead of or in addition to MEX, B6 should seriously consider PVR. Especially seasonally. Seats to this market are selling like hot cakes.


Thanks VS4 ever!

Do you know if AM was still running BOS-MEX in November? If so, then I would expect these numbers to improve once we see data for periods after AM left the market. That said, I still think that BOS-MEX - daily - is overkill.

Interestingly enough, over 50% of B6's point-of-sale on MEX-FLL/MCO is MEX-originating. So perhaps as more locals get to learn about this new service (along with the new daily JFK flights), then loads will improve. However, with AM/DL and a bunch of LCC's dominating MEX in general, it will continue to be a challenge.

Frankly I'm surprised BOS-HAV was even above 50% LF. Do the E190's (and, later, the A220's) have the legs to make this journey? B6 currently uses the E190 on JFK-HAV, which I suspect helps them get somewhat higher yields (and LF).

I think the issue with PVR is that it's just so far from the East Coast with no meaningful traffic other than sun-seekers trying to escape the cold. But, for that, Bostonians and New Yorkers have a slew of other options in the (much-closer....and, IMO, nicer) Caribbean islands. I just don't see how B6 could turn a profit in a low-yielding beach market that is just as long as a transcon.


An E-190 should be able to do BOS-HAV.

PVR resort area is massive (I was shocked at how large it was) and has both luxury resorts and super cheap resorts. Its never been cheap to fly there from BOS! I paid $670 in 2010 and had to go through LAX to save money. Its only 130 miles more than BOS-LIR though a bit more east/west and food and drink in Guanacaste is cheaper that Puerto Vallarta.


Puerto Vallarta is not "low yielding" whatsoever. In fact, considering the increase in violence in the Cancun/PdC and Acapulco area, people will increasingly flock to the Pacific Coast of Mexico.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 12:18 am

tlecam wrote:
Thank you! I love the analysis and the data!

With KE now starting, it will be interesting to watch the Asia numbers.


Thank you :) T-100's will take a while, However the massport numbers for April should be out soon and will give us a rough idea of either stolen market share or uplift. if the pax numbers don't increase significantly, then it's going to be the former, if they do, the latter.

Separately, this got posted this morning. The 321LR is due to show up from SNN from 11/3
https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... t-changes/
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 3:12 am

March's board meeting notes. The whole TNC case is laid out again and I still remain to be convinced, I feel they are totally misreading the market to fit an agenda of raising fees and making them more inconvenient to push HOV;s which are less convenient and LEX, the closest one to me of which is a PITA to get to and deal with, just to save a few bucks, but waste a lot of time. I've said enough on the subject, You can read the rest of the logic for yourselves. Some interesting titbits about Worcester and AA dropping down on their PHL service too.
http://www.massport.com/media/3175/marc ... ermark.pdf

Page 129 shows some rate reductions because of better pax totals in certain cases


Also May's agenda.
Interesting is the signing of the RJ air agreement and also Atlas air
http://www.massport.com/media/3176/agenda_5-23-19.pdf
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 12:31 pm

VS4ever wrote:
March's board meeting notes. The whole TNC case is laid out again and I still remain to be convinced, I feel they are totally misreading the market to fit an agenda of raising fees ...

That's what it seems to be. Or just pure incompetence. The whole goal of reducing TNC vehicle trips by 30% just doesn't align with today's reality. TNC is how people get around these days and it will not change regardless of the price. At one point in the past, long before the Internet had become mainstream, Massport did a similar thing to taxis by raising their fees in order to try and push travelers to use public transportation or drive and pay for parking.
 
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Re: Boston Aviation Thread - 2019

Tue May 21, 2019 12:58 pm

airbazar wrote:
VS4ever wrote:
March's board meeting notes. The whole TNC case is laid out again and I still remain to be convinced, I feel they are totally misreading the market to fit an agenda of raising fees ...

That's what it seems to be. Or just pure incompetence. The whole goal of reducing TNC vehicle trips by 30% just doesn't align with today's reality. TNC is how people get around these days and it will not change regardless of the price. At one point in the past, long before the Internet had become mainstream, Massport did a similar thing to taxis by raising their fees in order to try and push travelers to use public transportation or drive and pay for parking.


They're out of options, though. Eastie residents have Massport in a sling over this - I have friends who have attested to the immediate impact the new TNC program had on the neighborhood - and Massport know that if they don't do something now the entire airport is going to be snarled up.

Short of funding a revolutionary expansion of the MBTA themselves I'm not sure what else Massport can do here. It's hardly the best outcome but I don't see any other solution in a state that seems hell-bent on kicking the can until the can gets stuck in Ted Williams traffic.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 1:17 pm

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in a state that seems hell-bent on kicking the can until the can gets stuck in Ted Williams traffic.


That's the most accurate description I've read about the state and city plans for public transport. We are moving to Southie at the end of June (on the east side). I have a little used Vespa to get to and from work in Back Bay because my options are to take the #9 bus that is already full when it reaches N Street (5th stop!) and will sit in traffic or to walk / hubway to Broadway. And forget the Seaport.
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Tue May 21, 2019 1:29 pm

After looking through the March slides, it shows 50% of TNC trips come from the urban core... I really wish Massport would take come initiative to improve the MBTA connections. I understand its probably a political "hot potato" and messy with each being state agencies but better non-vehicle transit to the airport will be the best thing to support growth at BOS.

I'd bet at good 20% of those TNC trips are result of the MBTA hours not being able to serve early departures or night arrivals.
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Tue May 21, 2019 1:30 pm

Atlas Air is interesting, inasmuch as they are mainly a cargo carrier with 747s (with troop charters as well through PSM). I say that because that whole North Cargo area is going to be pigeonholed as E gets expanded, leaving less-than-desireable maneuvering room for them.
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:12 pm

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They're out of options, though. Eastie residents have Massport in a sling over this - I have friends who have attested to the immediate impact the new TNC program had on the neighborhood - and Massport know that if they don't do something now the entire airport is going to be snarled up.

Short of funding a revolutionary expansion of the MBTA themselves I'm not sure what else Massport can do here. It's hardly the best outcome but I don't see any other solution in a state that seems hell-bent on kicking the can until the can gets stuck in Ted Williams traffic.


Right but the problem is that this plan does nothing to alleviate the traffic in the tunnel and appease Eastie residents which leaves us with only 1 of 2 conclusions: 1) This is a money grab by Massport or 2) They are utterly incompetent.. Short of an outright ban on TNC there is nothing in the plan that I believe will reduce the number of rides. Organic growth alone will outpace whatever reductions they can accomplish simply because that is the way people get around these days. Moving the drop-off/pick-up from the curb to the central garage won't alleviate traffic in Eastie. the same cars will still come and go. Increasing the cost won't reduce trips because there's no viable alternative from within Rt.128.
That revolutionary expansion of the MBTA was called the 2024 Summer Olympics which we voted against :)
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:19 pm

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That revolutionary expansion of the MBTA was called the 2024 Summer Olympics which we voted against :)


Revolutionary money grab, you mean.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:24 pm

I'd like to see Massport add LEX locations in some farther out locations. Mansfield for example. Massport is being smart in making the service more attractive.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 2:59 pm

The most common sense solution is for Massport to fund MBTA improvements that ehance connectivity to the airport and expand hours of operation. I feel like in Boston area politics that's the equivalent of a Democrat running with a Sarah Palin at their VP, but it can be done. Heck RIDOT bought 5 rail cars for the MBTA to support expanded service into Rhode Island and Metro North is shared with ConnDOT and the MTA.
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Tue May 21, 2019 3:39 pm

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I'd like to see Massport add LEX locations in some farther out locations. Mansfield for example. Massport is being smart in making the service more attractive.


They really need something on the South Shore along Rt 3. A lot of commuters who live on the South Shore (myself included) tend to take the stance that if you can make it to the Braintree lot, which is north of the split, you might as well just continue onto Logan itself. P&B lines offers service to Logan from Hyannis, Plymouth and Rockland but it's roughly 2-3 times as expensive as the LEX.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 4:02 pm

A bus straight from Watertown to the terminals would be nice :)
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 4:15 pm

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Do you know if AM was still running BOS-MEX in November? If so, then I would expect these numbers to improve once we see data for periods after AM left the market. That said, I still think that BOS-MEX - daily - is overkill.

Interestingly enough, over 50% of B6's point-of-sale on MEX-FLL/MCO is MEX-originating. So perhaps as more locals get to learn about this new service (along with the new daily JFK flights), then loads will improve. However, with AM/DL and a bunch of LCC's dominating MEX in general, it will continue to be a challenge.


I doubt there's anything close to the amount of MEX-originating traffic heading for BOS as there is to FLL/MCO or even JFK. That said, I would think there would be a decent opportunity to feed connecting traffic. The great circle route from MEX to LHR basically overflies BOS anyway.

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I think the issue with PVR is that it's just so far from the East Coast with no meaningful traffic other than sun-seekers trying to escape the cold. But, for that, Bostonians and New Yorkers have a slew of other options in the (much-closer....and, IMO, nicer) Caribbean islands. I just don't see how B6 could turn a profit in a low-yielding beach market that is just as long as a transcon.


Anecdotally, pricing on BOS-PVR is higher than a lot of other vacation-oriented flights that B6 already flies -- and I know a number of people in BOS who vacation in PVR often. If they can make PSP work, they could make PVR work. That said, I don't expect to actually see them fly it before the A220s come online.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 5:25 pm

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airbazar wrote:
That revolutionary expansion of the MBTA was called the 2024 Summer Olympics which we voted against :)

Revolutionary money grab, you mean.


Lost in all the political posturing at the time was the real fact that every Olympics ever organized in the U.S. has been a financial success and they left a legacy of improved infrastructure. So much so that two of the cities that have had them recently, Salt Lake and LA are going back for more. As a direct or indirect result of the Olympics, LA now has a sizable Metro network and Salt Lake has a light rail system. Boston by comparison has added nothing but a few buses over the same exact time period.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 5:57 pm

airbazar wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
airbazar wrote:
That revolutionary expansion of the MBTA was called the 2024 Summer Olympics which we voted against :)

Revolutionary money grab, you mean.


Lost in all the political posturing at the time was the real fact that every Olympics ever organized in the U.S. has been a financial success and they left a legacy of improved infrastructure. So much so that two of the cities that have had them recently, Salt Lake and LA are going back for more. As a direct or indirect result of the Olympics, LA now has a sizable Metro network and Salt Lake has a light rail system. Boston by comparison has added nothing but a few buses over the same exact time period.


Fake News.
Only LA turned a profit.

That, combined with a sharp jump in television broadcast revenue made L.A. the only city to turn a profit hosting the Olympics, finishing with a $215 million operating surplus.


https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/econom ... mpic-games
 
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Lost in all the political posturing at the time was the real fact that every Olympics ever organized in the U.S. has been a financial success and they left a legacy of improved infrastructure.

Whoa, dude. That could hardly be more wrong.

Dieuwer wrote:
Fake News.
Only LA turned a profit.

I'm pretty sure Mitt turned the SLC Winter Games around to make a profit as well.
 
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Tue May 21, 2019 7:09 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
Fake News.
Only LA turned a profit.

That, combined with a sharp jump in television broadcast revenue made L.A. the only city to turn a profit hosting the Olympics, finishing with a $215 million operating surplus.


There's a big difference between a city and the games.
As pointed out in that article, the city often invests in infrastructure like public transportation which is exactly what we are talking about here on this forum. Anyone who can do 3rd grade math knows that you can't build an entire rail network or widen roads and expect it to turn a profit in 3 weeks.

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airbazar wrote:
Lost in all the political posturing at the time was the real fact that every Olympics ever organized in the U.S. has been a financial success and they left a legacy of improved infrastructure.

Whoa, dude. That could hardly be more wrong.

1980 Lake Placid
1984 LA
1996 Atlanta
2002 Salt Lake city
Which of these was not a financial success?
 
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Wed May 22, 2019 12:31 am

airbazar wrote:
hinckley wrote:
airbazar wrote:
Lost in all the political posturing at the time was the real fact that every Olympics ever organized in the U.S. has been a financial success and they left a legacy of improved infrastructure.

Whoa, dude. That could hardly be more wrong.

1980 Lake Placid
1984 LA
1996 Atlanta
2002 Salt Lake city
Which of these was not a financial success?


Answering my own post because I was curious and looked it up. Lake Placid was a financial disaster. I had no idea.
And yes I know there were other Olympics but I'm not counting 1932 and 1906 because those had nothing comparable to modern day Olympic games.
 
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Fri May 24, 2019 4:16 pm

A spotter alert: N220HA Just landed moments ago at BOS. It is a Hawaiian A321neo on delivery from Hamburg XFW. No departure time has been scheduled yet according to flightradar, but I would expect it to go to E so the crew can clear customs.

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Sat May 25, 2019 4:05 pm

It appears the Terminal E expansion project is about to become visibly underway, rather than the behind the scenes prep work that's been going on for awhile now

Gas station is closing at the end of the month, changes to the building layout by the blast wall, etc etc. North cargo has been shuffled around a lot.

Here we go again, basically.


Also minor thing I found interesting- the hardstand the EK 380 will use is flipped. The plane will push from E11 and park nose facing E and the tail by the AA hangar. I suppose the purpose is to minimise unnecessary turns, straight back and straight in.
 
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Mon May 27, 2019 2:38 am

AT BOS-CMN DEC 0.4>0.7[0]

Nice to see even before the service actually starts
 
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Mon May 27, 2019 4:22 am

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AT BOS-CMN DEC 0.4>0.7[0]

Nice to see even before the service actually starts


It is 6 weekly between mid-December and mid-January. Not 100% sure if its to use BOS as a transfer point with B6 or if its due to BOS O+D to Morocco and beyond (Africa/Southern Europe).
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 1:43 pm

Just a quick reminder that double daily A380 service starts this Saturday! This will be interesting...
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Wed May 29, 2019 1:47 pm

Any reason why EK only has A380 service for a narrow window during the summer and winter season? Why not have it 100% of the time? For instance I see it in December and January, but not in November or February.
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 2:06 pm

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Any reason why EK only has A380 service for a narrow window during the summer and winter season? Why not have it 100% of the time? For instance I see it in December and January, but not in November or February.


They started the A380 for summer Jun-September, to cover the remainder of the season where they need the extra seats as a result of not bringing back the 2nd daily, a very wise move when loads are in the 90+ range on 354 seats. October and November are pretty quiet for them, less than 80% loads on a 773, so it doesn't make sense to dump more capacity into those months, maybe they will extend into February, but they didn't on the last schedule extension, so maybe they don't feel it's necessary
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Wed May 29, 2019 2:07 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
Any reason why EK only has A380 service for a narrow window during the summer and winter season? Why not have it 100% of the time? For instance I see it in December and January, but not in November or February.


Its a smart move by EK. Look at load factor history. October November February are the worst months by far.
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Wed May 29, 2019 2:42 pm

adamh8297 wrote:
Dieuwer wrote:
Any reason why EK only has A380 service for a narrow window during the summer and winter season? Why not have it 100% of the time? For instance I see it in December and January, but not in November or February.


Its a smart move by EK. Look at load factor history. October November February are the worst months by far.


February was high last year, not sure why. but here are the combined direction factors by month (Jan-Nov)

1 - 88.91%
2 - 84.26%
3 - 89.03%
4 - 86.36%
5 - 95.00%
6 - 98.16%
7 - 94.39%
8 - 94.53%
9 - 85.92%
10 - 77.35%
11 - 75.00%
Dec 17 - 73.88%
(December 18 is not out until middle of June)
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Wed May 29, 2019 2:52 pm

It bears watching, inasmuch as snowbank heights along the runways and taxiways will need monitoring because of the low-slung engines.
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Wed May 29, 2019 5:14 pm

Am I correct in concluding that when the EK A380 drops off passengers at the gate the BA A380 will be holding at Gate 12? That will not be a bad sight.
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Wed May 29, 2019 5:26 pm

ramzi wrote:
Am I correct in concluding that when the EK A380 drops off passengers at the gate the BA A380 will be holding at Gate 12? That will not be a bad sight.

I don't think they will be at the gate at the same time.
Yup. They both arrive at roughly the same time. EK at gate 11 and BA at gate 12. The immigration lines should be interesting to say the least. I'll be there on Monday picking up my wife who arrives on EK. Hope the weather is good :)
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 8:03 pm

Spotters standby. Terminal E expansion about to get put to work for the first time
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 8:09 pm

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Spotters standby. Terminal E expansion about to get put to work for the first time


Why am I excited and nervous at the same time?... Do you happen to know if they have exercised the option to concurrently build phase 2 to save a couple of years off the timescale? I seem to recall, if they did that, the whole extension would be done by 2023. rather than 2025.
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Wed May 29, 2019 8:32 pm

Looks like CLEAR has been added at Terminal A. Delta are not messing around, this must be very attractive to business travelers.
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Wed May 29, 2019 10:14 pm

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Looks like CLEAR has been added at Terminal A. Delta are not messing around, this must be very attractive to business travelers.


Take two for CLEAR at Logan Airport. See if they take-off this time.
https://www.wcvb.com/article/new-servic ... n/27622594

My TSA PreCheck experience at Terminal C is always faster than at Terminal A. Why would I want to pay this again?
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 10:31 pm

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ramzi wrote:
Looks like CLEAR has been added at Terminal A. Delta are not messing around, this must be very attractive to business travelers.


Take two for CLEAR at Logan Airport. See if they take-off this time.
https://www.wcvb.com/article/new-servic ... n/27622594

My TSA PreCheck experience at Terminal C is always faster than at Terminal A. Why would I want to pay this again?


I don't even have PreCheck and never had any long TSA lines at any airport. However i'm not a business traveler so my sample size is quite small but suffice to say it that from my personal experience I don't even see value in PreCheck.
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 10:32 pm

B6BOSfan wrote:
ramzi wrote:
Looks like CLEAR has been added at Terminal A. Delta are not messing around, this must be very attractive to business travelers.


Take two for CLEAR at Logan Airport. See if they take-off this time.
https://www.wcvb.com/article/new-servic ... n/27622594

My TSA PreCheck experience at Terminal C is always faster than at Terminal A. Why would I want to pay this again?


Pre-check for me is more about MCO than BOS, Clear isn't really going to make things a whole faster anyway. My renewal is up at the end of the year, but I am more likely to get Global Entry if I move options.
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Wed May 29, 2019 10:59 pm

VS4ever wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:
ramzi wrote:
Looks like CLEAR has been added at Terminal A. Delta are not messing around, this must be very attractive to business travelers.


Take two for CLEAR at Logan Airport. See if they take-off this time.
https://www.wcvb.com/article/new-servic ... n/27622594

My TSA PreCheck experience at Terminal C is always faster than at Terminal A. Why would I want to pay this again?


Pre-check for me is more about MCO than BOS, Clear isn't really going to make things a whole faster anyway. My renewal is up at the end of the year, but I am more likely to get Global Entry if I move options.


It can get bad at Logan at times, nowhere near the insane times MCO hits though. Example: The regular security line at Terminal C at Logan Airport last Friday before Memorial Day weekend went all the way through the normal area, past the JetBlue check-in kiosks, all the way to the Burger King at the other end of the terminal. Longest line I've ever seen. TSA PreCheck took all of 3 minutes.

On the other hand, I've had DEN completely shut-down PreCheck lanes, but keep CLEAR access open. Don't like that place!
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 11:05 pm

VS4ever wrote:
B6BOSfan wrote:
ramzi wrote:
Looks like CLEAR has been added at Terminal A. Delta are not messing around, this must be very attractive to business travelers.


Take two for CLEAR at Logan Airport. See if they take-off this time.
https://www.wcvb.com/article/new-servic ... n/27622594

My TSA PreCheck experience at Terminal C is always faster than at Terminal A. Why would I want to pay this again?


Pre-check for me is more about MCO than BOS, Clear isn't really going to make things a whole faster anyway. My renewal is up at the end of the year, but I am more likely to get Global Entry if I move options.

Although it is a bit of a hassle, I would highly recommend considering getting NEXUS at the US-Canada border, instead. It comes with TSA Pre-Check, Global Entry, and expedited entry on the US-Canada border. It costs $50 for 5 years. I will definitely be extending mine once my 5 years end. From personal experience, Pre-Check is not very useful in BOS but, is a literal life-saver at some other airports, ORD, IAH from personal experiences. However, Global Entry is amazing at BOS. If you arrive during the European rush during the evening in the summer, it can save you up to an hour or two of standing in lines (worst days). I frequently deboard near the end and leave Immigrations and customs before my bags have arrived at the carousel.
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If you arrive during the European rush during the evening in the summer, it can save you up to an hour or two of standing in lines (worst days). I frequently deboard near the end and leave Immigrations and customs before my bags have arrived at the carousel.


...thereby negating your advantage ;)
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 11:43 pm

Dieuwer wrote:
NickolayAv wrote:
If you arrive during the European rush during the evening in the summer, it can save you up to an hour or two of standing in lines (worst days). I frequently deboard near the end and leave Immigrations and customs before my bags have arrived at the carousel.


...thereby negating your advantage ;)

Just giving it up a little bit! More motivation to pack light!

Totally agree though that it's a huge lifesaver when arriving in E.
 
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Thu May 30, 2019 12:25 am

Angela Merkel is in Boston currently. Any ideas as to what kind of plane she flies? Anyone snag any shots of it?
 
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Thu May 30, 2019 12:29 am

Dieuwer wrote:
NickolayAv wrote:
If you arrive during the European rush during the evening in the summer, it can save you up to an hour or two of standing in lines (worst days). I frequently deboard near the end and leave Immigrations and customs before my bags have arrived at the carousel.


...thereby negating your advantage ;)

Still, I would rather stand and wait in the room with carousels with plenty of open room, as opposed to standing in the hectic line at CBP. Additionally, I still received my bag before others from my flight started to come to the carousel. Global Entry is the most useful part of NEXUS IMO.
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Thu May 30, 2019 1:01 am

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Angela Merkel is in Boston currently. Any ideas as to what kind of plane she flies? Anyone snag any shots of it?



It's the German government A340. Didn't get a picture but I think it's still at north cargo.

Other distinguished guests of the afternoon include:

AF a380
TAP a330neo
UA 787-10, and a 772

And seemingly half the Virgin Atlantic flights headed to the US stopped by Boston

May not have been intentional, but a pair of a380s side by side at terminal E was a sight to see

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Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos