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Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:17 am

Please continue from last year's thread.

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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 01, 2019 1:57 pm

What is Airbus's delivery target for this year?
 
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Tue Jan 01, 2019 4:10 pm

BOEING777EK wrote:
What is Airbus's delivery target for this year?


They are at 10/month which equates to 110 a year.

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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Tue Jan 01, 2019 8:45 pm

Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:36 am

Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


All very exciting. Do we know delivery dates for these carries, or is there a source for such information I could reference?
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:26 am

gabep wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


All very exciting. Do we know delivery dates for these carries, or is there a source for such information I could reference?


Turkish first is MSN403, so I'll be very surprised if this is delivered in 2019

First for SAS is MSN358, with expected delivery November 2019
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:40 am

Japan Airlines has their A350s with '-942' rather than the '-941' we've seen on all other A350s. I can't search on the forum at the moment as it keeps coming up with an error but is there any information on this? Uprated or derated engine?
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:45 am

LoganTheBogan wrote:
Japan Airlines has their A350s with '-942' rather than the '-941' we've seen on all other A350s. I can't search on the forum at the moment as it keeps coming up with an error but is there any information on this? Uprated or derated engine?

derated. will be domestic frames.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:46 am

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
Japan Airlines has their A350s with '-942' rather than the '-941' we've seen on all other A350s. I can't search on the forum at the moment as it keeps coming up with an error but is there any information on this? Uprated or derated engine?

derated. will be domestic frames.


Without sounding petty, do you have a source? Even if its just about them being domestic frames? Many thanks for the information though!
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:37 am

LoganTheBogan wrote:
Without sounding petty, do you have a source? Even if its just about them being domestic frames? Many thanks for the information though!

Here's the latest article confirming it. dated today so up to date.
A359s = domestic. A35Js = international (77W replacement)
https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/163988
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 12:42 pm

hkcanadaexpat wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
Without sounding petty, do you have a source? Even if its just about them being domestic frames? Many thanks for the information though!

Here's the latest article confirming it. dated today so up to date.
A359s = domestic. A35Js = international (77W replacement)
https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/163988


Says they may take up to 56 A350s, comprising 31 -900s and 13 -1000s (totals 54?). Not all are yet ordered.

900s for domestic roles (assume de-rated engines, the 942 designation, revised MTOW and cycles limits not yet known). 1000s for international will no doubt not be de-rated. Maybe some -900s later will be international versions, not de-rated.
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:02 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:

900s for domestic roles.
Helluva plane for 90-minute domestic ops. :o
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:58 pm

Still smaller than the 77Ws flying domestic routes, or the 747-400Ds in the past, which by the way, the "D" stands for "Domestic".
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:09 pm

I hardly think JAL will need 31 A359's all for domestic use, I'd say more like 12 -15 max.
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:20 pm

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Still smaller than the 77Ws flying domestic routes, or the 747-400Ds in the past, which by the way, the "D" stands for "Domestic".
I not only know that, I've flown on a number of "D"s. But I think that's the point. They were customised for short ops.

I did not know that 777-300ERs were being used for domestic ops. Are they dedicated to domestic flights or just killing time between long-haul flights?
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:35 pm

JAL doesn’t have any domestic dedicated 77Ws. They do have 4 773As for domestic use, I’m guessing that is what he was referring to.
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:36 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:
900s for domestic roles.

PM wrote:
Helluva plane for 90-minute domestic ops. :o


Yeah kind of surprised they did not go with A330-900s, but they may want the flexibility the A35-900 offers to move them between domestic and international operations long-term.


TC957 wrote:
I hardly think JAL will need 31 A359's all for domestic use, I'd say more like 12 -15 max.


Well at the moment they have 18 firm orders. The domestic-configuration 777-200 fleet numbers 12 frames, so...


PM wrote:
I did not know that 777-300ERs were being used for domestic ops. Are they dedicated to domestic flights or just killing time between long-haul flights?


I have to believe it is the latter since they are all configured for four-class international operations.
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:36 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
Without sounding petty, do you have a source? Even if its just about them being domestic frames? Many thanks for the information though!

Here's the latest article confirming it. dated today so up to date.
A359s = domestic. A35Js = international (77W replacement)
https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/163988


Says they may take up to 56 A350s, comprising 31 -900s and 13 -1000s (totals 54?). Not all are yet ordered.

900s for domestic roles (assume de-rated engines, the 942 designation, revised MTOW and cycles limits not yet known). 1000s for international will no doubt not be de-rated. Maybe some -900s later will be international versions, not de-rated.


Airbus orderbook shows they have 31 on order, 18 -900s and 13 -1000s.

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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:45 pm

Geoff1947 wrote:
JerseyFlyer wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
Here's the latest article confirming it. dated today so up to date.
A359s = domestic. A35Js = international (77W replacement)
https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/163988


Says they may take up to 56 A350s, comprising 31 -900s and 13 -1000s (totals 54?). Not all are yet ordered.

900s for domestic roles (assume de-rated engines, the 942 designation, revised MTOW and cycles limits not yet known). 1000s for international will no doubt not be de-rated. Maybe some -900s later will be international versions, not de-rated.


Airbus orderbook shows they have 31 on order, 18 -900s and 13 -1000s.

Geoff

Yes with 25 options. That is how that link is getting to JAL may eventually take up to 56.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:49 pm

Stitch wrote:
JerseyFlyer wrote:
900s for domestic roles.

PM wrote:
Helluva plane for 90-minute domestic ops. :o


Yeah kind of surprised they did not go with A330-900s, but they may want the flexibility the A35-900 offers to move them between domestic and international operations long-term.

A350 allows for international and domestic ops larger than the 787. A330neo would just be a new type that offers nothing new over their 787 fleet international or domestic (if they choose to fit 787s in a domestic configuration).
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:17 pm

Polot wrote:
A350 allows for international and domestic ops larger than the 787. A330neo would just be a new type that offers nothing new over their 787 fleet international or domestic (if they choose to fit 787s in a domestic configuration).


That is true, between the slightly longer length and being 9-abreast in Economy compared to 8-abreast on the 787.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:24 pm

Polot wrote:
Geoff1947 wrote:
JerseyFlyer wrote:

Says they may take up to 56 A350s, comprising 31 -900s and 13 -1000s (totals 54?). Not all are yet ordered.

900s for domestic roles (assume de-rated engines, the 942 designation, revised MTOW and cycles limits not yet known). 1000s for international will no doubt not be de-rated. Maybe some -900s later will be international versions, not de-rated.


Airbus orderbook shows they have 31 on order, 18 -900s and 13 -1000s.

Geoff

Yes with 25 options. That is how that link is getting to JAL may eventually take up to 56.


I wonder if the 31+13 quote results from double counting the 13 -1000s.

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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:35 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:
hkcanadaexpat wrote:
LoganTheBogan wrote:
Without sounding petty, do you have a source? Even if its just about them being domestic frames? Many thanks for the information though!

Here's the latest article confirming it. dated today so up to date.
A359s = domestic. A35Js = international (77W replacement)
https://www.aviationwire.jp/archives/163988


Says they may take up to 56 A350s, comprising 31 -900s and 13 -1000s (totals 54?). Not all are yet ordered.

That's what Google Translate make of it, but it´s not a correct translation. The article says that they can order up to a maximum of 56 A350s (31 orders + 25 options), then it gives a breakdown of the current order = 18 -900s and 13 -1000s. It doesn't mention anything about which versions will be ordered when they decide to take the options.

So the 18 -900s will be used on domestic flights, they will most likely replace the 12 772s and 4 773s. The 13 1000s will replace the current 13 77Ws. Any more orders will be for expansion or for the replacement of the remaining 77Es. There's still a gap in their order book. They haven't ordered enough 787-9s to replace all international 77Es and not enough 787-8s to replace all domestic 767s. They got the option to order more 787s. But they could also order some more A350s for international routes to move some 787s to domestic operations as 767 replacements.


The article also mentions that the 1st A350 will be delivered in June and that it will be used on the Haneda - Fukuoka route from July.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:55 pm

People, we are drifting way off topic...
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:34 pm

gabep wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


All very exciting. Do we know delivery dates for these carries, or is there a source for such information I could reference?


And to bring this thread back on topic. BAs first A350-1000 is due July 2019.
A306 A313 A319 A320 A20N A321 A332 A333 A343 A345 A346 A388
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:38 pm

george77300 wrote:
gabep wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


All very exciting. Do we know delivery dates for these carries, or is there a source for such information I could reference?


And to bring this thread back on topic. BAs first A350-1000 is due July 2019.


Which will be the first airline on this list to receive their A350 and in which month?
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:15 pm

Polot wrote:
JAL doesn’t have any domestic dedicated 77Ws. They do have 4 773As for domestic use, I’m guessing that is what he was referring to.


Yep. Thanks guys for the correction. So used to call all Three Zero Zeros as the 77W.
 
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Re: Airbus A350 Production/Delivery Thread - 2019

Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:42 pm

george77300 wrote:
gabep wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


All very exciting. Do we know delivery dates for these carries, or is there a source for such information I could reference?


And to bring this thread back on topic. BAs first A350-1000 is due July 2019.


Will these A350‘s be configured with BA‘s new business class?
 
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 10:56 pm

LxBsl wrote:
george77300 wrote:
gabep wrote:

All very exciting. Do we know delivery dates for these carries, or is there a source for such information I could reference?


And to bring this thread back on topic. BAs first A350-1000 is due July 2019.


Will these A350‘s be configured with BA‘s new business class?


They will. Not too many details known. Probably a similar configuration but with direct aisle access. Hopefully meaning still good for sleeping, (meaning no tiny hole for feet), like current configuration.

The first batch of A350 will be three class. New Business, Premium Economy and Economy. The second batch will be 4 class and feature First class too.
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Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:40 pm

Any actual production or delivery news??
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itisi wrote:
Any actual production or delivery news??

Airbus is back to work this morning so updates should start trickling in again.
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:46 am

Hopefully QR will start speeding up their deliveries again.
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:10 am

¿Delivery dates of next IB A350's?
 
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pabloeing wrote:
¿Delivery dates of next IB A350's?

next one should be end Jan/early Feb.
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:49 am

On the tracking spreadsheet many of us follow it seems like the first BA frame has been delayed. Is this correct?
 
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StTim wrote:
On the tracking spreadsheet many of us follow it seems like the first BA frame has been delayed. Is this correct?


It seems as if the person compiling the list has recently become doubtful over quite a few airframes in the running order, last time I looked there were very few blanks, now there are lots, particularly for frames due to arrive in TLS during March
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:39 am

Slash787 wrote:
george77300 wrote:
gabep wrote:

All very exciting. Do we know delivery dates for these carries, or is there a source for such information I could reference?


And to bring this thread back on topic. BAs first A350-1000 is due July 2019.


Which will be the first airline on this list to receive their A350 and in which month?

The evelop! one has already been rolled out of the FAL a few weeks ago now so my guess is that one from the list.
 
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:31 pm

TC957 wrote:
Slash787 wrote:
george77300 wrote:

And to bring this thread back on topic. BAs first A350-1000 is due July 2019.


Which will be the first airline on this list to receive their A350 and in which month?

The evelop! one has already been rolled out of the FAL a few weeks ago now so my guess is that one from the list.


Possibly. Or also VS is possible. They are getting the test frame of the A350-1000, so already built and flown. Not sure on the timings however.
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:53 pm

Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


EK's first (a 35K by the way) is being built right now as far as I know, so I assume they'll take theirs in 2019. Definitely will be an interesting year for the A350!
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:14 am

OA940 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


EK's first (a 35K by the way) is being built right now as far as I know, so I assume they'll take theirs in 2019. Definitely will be an interesting year for the A350!



EK????
 
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pugman211 wrote:
OA940 wrote:
Breathe wrote:
Quite a number of airlines will be receiving their first A350's this year:

British Airways
Air France
Japan Airlines
China Southern
SAS
Virgin Atlantic
evelop!
Turkish Airlines (?)
Aeroflot (?)
Eithad (?)


EK's first (a 35K by the way) is being built right now as far as I know, so I assume they'll take theirs in 2019. Definitely will be an interesting year for the A350!



EK????


I think he meant EY.
 
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MSN 262 (CX#31) initial engine run this morning
 
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OA940 wrote:
EK's first (a 35K by the way) is being built right now as far as I know


Now that would be newsworthy! :wink2:
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:58 am

Slug71 wrote:
pugman211 wrote:
OA940 wrote:

EK's first (a 35K by the way) is being built right now as far as I know, so I assume they'll take theirs in 2019. Definitely will be an interesting year for the A350!



EK????


I think he meant EY.


scbriml wrote:
OA940 wrote:
EK's first (a 35K by the way) is being built right now as far as I know


Now that would be newsworthy! :wink2:


Yea I meant EY lmao :lol:
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This afternoon : Image
 
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MSN 271 (IB#3) first flight #AIB01ND
 
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So I’m guessing that Etihad will actually be taking atleast one A350?
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This afternoon : Image


What a tease. I’m looking forward to seeing her in all her glory. Plus, I’m curious to see their new interior. We think mid year as far as delivery goes?
 
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IB #3 flies, one of 4 A350s IB would plan to receive this year.

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