ewt340 wrote:morrisond wrote:Then in equivalent Densities you have MAX-10 at about 160-170 seats, NMA-6 about 200, NMA-7 about 230-240 and 788 about 288 - putting the NMA right in the middle of the market of Boeing's offerings.
Yes, but the main problem as I mentioned before is the lack of range for the larger model. Since B787-8 orders are drying up these days, it's only logical to amp up the range of the larger model to make it close to B767-300ER capability. Otherwise it's not gonna sell as well like B757-300 or B767-400ER. The smaller version capacity and range is great, they just gotta make some modifications for the larger model.
From what I keep reading (and quoted earlier in this thread) the larger 797 is optimized for domestic US, domestic China, Domestic India, Middle East to India and other markets under 2500nm. Chinese airports are running out of slots and Us airlines have consolidated to the point of having excessive frequency. This is the premise of widebody with narrowbody economics is that the plane is viable to displace 757s, A321ceos and 737-800s where airlines want to upgauge, but A330s and 787s are too expensive to be worthwhile for shorthaul. The widebodies don’t have particularly great CASM for short missions since they are way overbuilt for those types of routes and they cost too much to purchase.
Darren Hulst, a senior managing director of sales at Boeing's commercial aeroplane division, said the NMA was particularly compelling for Australian airlines who are struggling with capacity constraints between Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
If it becomes a reality, the new wide-body (twin aisle) plane would fly between 220 to 270 passengers up to 5000 nautical miles, and could enter service as soon as 2025.
... “Whether you’re running out of slots or whether you’re just looking to optimise capacity for the peak levels of demand... an airplane that has the flexibility to carry 20 to 30 per cent more people at the right time is going to be compelling," Mr Hulst said on the sidelines of the International Air Transport Association's AMG in Sydney last week.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/compani ... 4zkto.html