Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:22 am

Ok lets all imagine here.. you are starting an airline and are deciding on a Second hub for your International Airline. you are deciding on the how flexable the timeslots are and much more. Which one do think would be your First Priority Hub ** But first Indicate were your Airline Is based.
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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:27 am

What exactly do you mean by First Priority Hub? Can you give an example?
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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:34 am

I would say DFW or IAH. Located in the middle of the USA, non-slotted,capable of handling 747s, sizeable market already there. My first choice would be ORD, but it is slotted.

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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:37 am

An international airline? Heck, I would have trouble figuring out where I would start a domestic airline. Actually, I figured that if I were to run a domestic airline in the United States, I would have to have hubs at COS and ONT. They just seem underutilized if you ask me. I would also look at BNA and maybe TPA.
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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 7:51 am

I would choose can be a bugger, but it is built in the middle of nowwhere. you could build a huge hub, close to the mountains and 72 miles south is another big city. the only downside is denver has no character. it is not like chicago or new york.
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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 8:19 am

I'd pick a major connurbation or small country without a dominant carrier as my main Brussels in Belgium.

Then I'd look into the historical background of the area or country and develop a route structure around those links, probably strongest to the USA and Africa.

Being supportive of local industry, I would try to base my fleet accordingly; probably a mix of A330s/A340s for long haul, the A320 family for heavy load trunk routes, and I'd have a lo-cost subsidiary to fly the thinner local routes with something like the BAe RJ85/100.

To take advantage and exploit all these great new routes, I'd have to give my airline a suitable name...the Belgian Company for the Exploitation of Air Navigation, or Société Anonyme Belge d'Exploitation de la Navigation Aérienne would reflect the nature of the company.

Hmmmm, but that doesn't have a ring to it, and it's probably too long to fit down the side of those Avros or those A319s.

How about we take the first letter from each word ??

BCEAN.........nah  Sad

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Next, I'd try and carve a world-beating alliance with another blue-chip, prestigious airline.

What a winning formula !!!


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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 8:28 am

Well, I am assuming you want to keep the current airline industry in the US the same Hub wise, you know, AA=MIA,ORD,STL,DFW DL=CVG, MCO, ATL, SLC UA=ORD, IAD, DEN, SFO US=CLT, PIT, on and so forth

SO, in the Southeast, ATL would be my first choice, CLT would be my second, since both of those are spoken for, I would go with BNA. Also, I would have a focus city at MCO.

In the Northeast, I'm not sure if there are any hub oppurtunities left, but I might try to set something up at CMH, once HP decides what they are doing. Plus, depending on how Jetblue is doing, I might make JFK a focus city

In the Midwest, DFW would be my first choice hub. If I can't get in there (and at this point I would think it would depend more on DL and its partners than AA) I would try to work something out at MCI (with a new terminal to get around security hassles or do some major reconfiguring of the security situation there) or wait for AA to do to the STL hub what we all are expecting and come in there.

Out west, I think I could do something at SLC since DL is cutting back there. I would have my hub at LAS but we all know how low yield that city is. Still, I would have a focus city at LAS. Depending on what the PHX area sees in growth of business traffic I might go there instead of SLC

Basically, All of the good hub oppurtunites are already spoken for. My focus hub would be which ever one of those made up the largest percentage of my yield plus I would take a lesson from AA and WN and do a fair amount of point to point if possible.

Oh, and the name, what do you think of resurrecting Eastern???????
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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 10:05 am

With a entrant carrier (jetBlue excepted), you have to start small, IMHO.

PDX would be a good fit: underserved airport that could definitely support flights to some East Coast cities.

AUS would also be a good fit. Lots of business travelers, and SAT flyers would drive up there. (Doing it at SAT could also work, but the facilites suck (T2) and there's not nearly the business traveler mix here as there is in AUS.)

COS could also work with the right structure, but not also with AUS. If you could offer frequent, easy ground transportation (like F9's Freeway Flyer service) and give pax FF miles for using the ground service (like UA's GroundLink), it could be very nice for Tech Center companies...

For the east coast, ballsy entrants could take on PIT: US doesn't have a lot of staying power against low-cost entrants, and if someone made a real go at PIT service, it could be very lucrative.

If you could start today, BWI would also be good: there's sort of a void there and AirTran is coming, but they're not there quite yet with a hub operation. WN competition could kill you, though.

BDL could also be a good choice: again, lots of biz pax within an easy drive, but another WN city.

Again, for the ballsy, RDU: Midway is on life support, and AA's RJ operations ain't gonna cut it. AA has a history of squashing competitors like mosquitos, though.
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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 10:29 am

I'd pick IAH first, as the international airlines terminal is expading and the customs is one of the fastest I've ever used. plus IAH is already the 8th largest foreign hub in the US so why not add to where I know.

In the Northeast I'd probably go with BWI and try to get it bumped up.

Out west is a tougher call, I don't know.....
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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 12:49 pm

I'ld probably go with my main hub in IND, good population base, terminal expansion is in the planning stage. Nice E/W traffic flow possibilities.

My secondary hub would be in BDL with transatlantic to LGW, CDG & FRA. Flights to LAX, IND, OAK and other markets to the west.

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RE: Your 1st Priority Hub

Sun Mar 17, 2002 12:58 pm

I like DFW. It's within 4 hours of anywhere in North America, which is good for people who have to make connections. Also, it is within range of most European, Far East, and South American destinations.
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