First of all, there is no chance in hell that Airbus is going to give EK the benefit of ordering the A350 on loose terms and certainly not at the expense of the A380.
EK humiliated Airbus with the cancellation of 70 A350's back in 2014 and again by ordering the B777X and again with the B787-10.
That is not happening again.
Second, it's too late for EY to cancel the A350 now. The first units already entered production.
Airbus will expect EY to fulfill the commitment, and orders are not transferable to other airlines unless EY is taken over by EK for instance.
Airbus is sitting on a comfortable backlog of 750 firm A350 orders worth 6 years of production.
If EY cancels the A350 order, they can easily open up the slots for other carriers. Several carriers would be happy to take early A350's.
Sure, EY over-ordered but that's hardly Airbus' problem. If EY is serious about cancelling A350's, Airbus will expect EY to cancel equal numbers of Boeing orders between the B787 and B777X.
Back to EK, what use is there for the A350 when they already have the B778/B779 planned?
Also, what use is there for A330neo's?
Everyone around here talking about the per seat fuel efficiency of the A380 vs twins as if oil was at 200 USD per barrel.
Fuel is cheap, the A380 is cheap to buy. At these fuel prices it actually doesn't make sense to splash money on expensive A350's or B777X's.
Look at the thread title, talk about opposite wisdom.
In fact at these fuel prices, B737NG, A320Ceo, B767's, A330CEO, B77W, B748i, A388 are the most attractive propositions, this is why we see so many end of the lines being ordered right and left. Not the shiny B737 Max, A320neo, B787's, A330neo's, A350's or B777X's.
airbus can't make EY or EK cancel any boeing planes and vice versa. also, the a380 is more expensive than a a350 or a 77x or a 787. And there's been far more MAX, 787, a350s etc ordered over their older generation counterparts.
Waterbomber, there is a reason executives are rotated periodically. Airbus needs to be managed for profit, not a perceived humiliation because Airbus changed a design the opposite way EK asked for.
EK is a customer Airbus cannot afford to loose. If one thing is clear, they bid Airbus and Boeing against each other with no remorse. The contracts must be independent per various international trade agreements.
What are the cancelation penalties for EK and EY,? EY has certainly differed as much as possible. The first examples look to have to be accepted by EY, but they are doing white tails. They are delaying. You had better believe if EY cannot sell, ASB's carpet issues to delay acceptance will be put to shame. Plus a relationship will be soured.
There is a win-win here. Cut A380 losses, transfer the A350s to a customer who buys a lot, and come to terms.
The shiney new cannot be ordered as there are no near term slots. That is why WN is leasing MAX. Aviation week has a good article (I try to add a link in a few minutes) on how casting yeild on new parts is only 50% to 60% or so versus 80%+ for mature engines. The LEAP went from a single stage turbine to two stages and increased production.
The limit on new engine production is the turbine blades. Everyone is struggling as it takes 5 to 10 years to optimize a casting process. The same is true for engine casings. Casting is an art where some science on the cooling helps.
Late edit, link on investment casting being the weak link on new engine production:http://m.aviationweek.com/future-aerosp ... -years-old
Put this way, for a CFM-56-5/7 production, CFM needed to produce about 1900 sets for production and a greater quantity for the refurbishment market (their #1 profit spare part). About 2800 sets per year (a SWAG I admit) for spares. Maybe 3,500.
CFM production winding down frees up those 1900 sets. But new production needs 6,000 sets of turbine blades (bad yeild and twice as many blades). So a supply chain that could do 5,000 to 6,000 sets is being asked to do 8,800+ sets where yield will drop that quickly to 7,000.
Pratt has a casting shop not mentioned in the link. They even make CFM-56 replacement blades (Pratt certified, so competing, not counterfeit). But that shop is at its limit too.
New materials drop yeild 10% usually. There have been exceptions, of course.
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