Australian Aviation Thread - February 2019

qf789 · Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:17 pm

Welcome to Australian Aviation Thread February 2019. Please continue to add your comments below

Link to previous thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411749

Link to Qantas Fleet Thread

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1411865&p=21055901#p21055901

Summary of January's Thread

Predictions for 2019
Ongoing discussion regarding QF and PAPL feud
CA to end services from PVG at the end of NW18/19
Ongoing weather issues for SYD and MEL
MU to upgrade MEL-PVG to 789 from 1 Feb
CA to increase PEK-SYD for NS19
Qantas to take delivery of 3 789's in Q4 this year
AA/QF joint venture pending approval, AA looking at seasonal services
EK reducing PER to daily from 31 Mar, SYD will see SYD-BKK-DXB axed
Sichuan to upgrade CTU-MEL to A359 from 4 Feb 19
CX considering upgrading PER & MEL to A350-1000 later this year
VA and ongoing terminal issues at SYD
VA seasonal services
MH 126/127 to PER will be upgraded to A332, from 31 Mar 19
MU upgrades PVG-SYD to A359 from 31 Mar 19
Royal Brunei to resume BNE from 11 June 19
ATC issues at SYD due to being short
QF9/10 delays, aircraft issues, subbed aircraft
QF to start SYD-NAN flights
QF to add fourth weekly SYD-NOU
QF SYD-DPS to see A330 year round
QF to increase SYD-CGK
QF to go daily year round on SYD-MNL
SYD-HNL will remain 744 for the time being and PER-SIN will remain A330 year round
BITRE domestic figures for November
VA opposes CX/QF codeshare, ACCC asks for more information
QF PER-LHR performing really well, Project sunrise aircraft could be used on the route from 2022-2023 due to big demand for premium passengers
Project Sunrise aircraft should be announced later in the year
Update on BNE runway works
OJS to be retired mid February
Air Vanuatu to resume flights to MEL
QF to send 717's to SIN for heavy maintenance

qf789 · Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:22 pm

A couple of QF Fleet updates

NXD is the first 717 to be repainted which is now out of the paint shop
Seems OEB is due for retirement in April

Dasa · Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:22 pm

Juneyao Airlines applied for PVG-MEL
https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status ... 84800?s=21

a19901213 · Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:42 pm

Just one question regarding main cabin extra on AA’s fight to LAX, is there any way you can guarantee it’s available before you buy the ticket?

My understanding is you have to purchase the main cabin before you can pay additional fees for the main cabin extra.

eamondzhang · Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:57 pm

Thanks QF789 for the great list of summary!

Not sure if this was posted in Jan'19 thread (not on the summary so figure I'll add this):
MU's PVG-SYD going A359 from 31 Mar: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/ai ... arch-2019/

Cheers,
Michael

Obzerva · Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:45 am

QF has just bought a 19.99% stake in QQ for $60m.
Apparently they want to take a majority stake long term.

interesting to see if this impacts QQ's regional flying for VA.

smi0006 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:06 am

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Obzerva wrote:
QF has just bought a 19.99% stake in QQ for $60m.
Apparently they want to take a majority stake long term.

interesting to see if this impacts QQ's regional flying for VA.

Curious.... comments around charters are intriguing
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The Qantas Group has taken a 19.9 per cent shareholding of Australian-based charter operator, Alliance Airlines.
Alliance Airlines is a significant service provider to the resources sector, which continues to stimulate travel demand in Western Australia and Queensland in particular. Alliance is a profitable, well-managed business with high levels of operational maturity. It is also a long-term provider to the Qantas Group and flies regional services on behalf of the national carrier.
The 19.9 per cent stake was acquired for an average price of $2.40 per share and for a total cost of $60 million.
Qantas expects to ultimately seek regulatory approval from the ACCC to build on its current shareholding, with a longer-term view of taking a majority position in Alliance Airlines in order to better serve the charter market by unlocking synergies.
In the meantime, Qantas is supportive of the ‘business as usual’ approach of Alliance Airlines management and is not seeking Board representation.

Boof · Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:06 am

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Obzerva wrote:
QF has just bought a 19.99% stake in QQ for $60m.
Apparently they want to take a majority stake long term.

interesting to see if this impacts QQ's regional flying for VA.

Didn’t VA and QQ do some sort of non-financial tie up last year? I recall there being some announcement about common maintenance or something for the F100’s and a few other things they were planning.

Edit: I found it, was for FIFO and Charter and was in 2017.
http://australianaviation.com.au/2017/0 ... -approval/

RyanairGuru · Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:18 am

a19901213 wrote:
Just one question regarding main cabin extra on AA’s fight to LAX, is there any way you can guarantee it’s available before you buy the ticket?

My understanding is you have to purchase the main cabin before you can pay additional fees for the main cabin extra.

You can check the seatmap on the AA website during the booking process. It isn't 100% accurate but is a good guide.

qf2220 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:36 am

smi0006 wrote:
[photoid][/photoid]
Obzerva wrote:
QF has just bought a 19.99% stake in QQ for $60m.
Apparently they want to take a majority stake long term.

interesting to see if this impacts QQ's regional flying for VA.

Curious.... comments around charters are intriguing
.,
The Qantas Group has taken a 19.9 per cent shareholding of Australian-based charter operator, Alliance Airlines.
Alliance Airlines is a significant service provider to the resources sector, which continues to stimulate travel demand in Western Australia and Queensland in particular. Alliance is a profitable, well-managed business with high levels of operational maturity. It is also a long-term provider to the Qantas Group and flies regional services on behalf of the national carrier.
The 19.9 per cent stake was acquired for an average price of $2.40 per share and for a total cost of $60 million.
Qantas expects to ultimately seek regulatory approval from the ACCC to build on its current shareholding, with a longer-term view of taking a majority position in Alliance Airlines in order to better serve the charter market by unlocking synergies.
In the meantime, Qantas is supportive of the ‘business as usual’ approach of Alliance Airlines management and is not seeking Board representation.

I expect the ACCC is going to have a look at this transaction and any subsequent transaction to increase ownership.....

a19901213 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:20 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
a19901213 wrote:
Just one question regarding main cabin extra on AA’s fight to LAX, is there any way you can guarantee it’s available before you buy the ticket?

My understanding is you have to purchase the main cabin before you can pay additional fees for the main cabin extra.

You can check the seatmap on the AA website during the booking process. It isn't 100% accurate but is a good guide.

This is what I had in mind in the first place but apparently you’ll have to pay the ticket first before seeing the seat map in the booking process.

Reasoning asking is because if I knew there won’t be any main cabin extra available I would just book on QF flight.

qf789 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:35 am

For those interested NZ has sent the Eva Air 77W to PER today, its first visit

qf789 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:47 am

Thai Airways to continue with 772 on BKK-BNE in NS19

https://twitter.com/Airlineroute/status ... 48066?s=20

qf789 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:51 am

VA raises concerns over on Qantas move on Alliance

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... nc-455462/

qf789 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:00 am

VA938 BNE-SYD diverted to NTL due to a warning light for the cargo hold activating, aircraft is VH-VOT

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 4206c80943

RyanairGuru · Fri Feb 01, 2019 7:04 am

UPS 747 is still at CBR. Did it go tech? When I saw it this morning I assumed it remained over night for crew rest but it's been almost 24 hours now.

VapourTrails · Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:04 am

RyanairGuru wrote:
UPS 747 is still at CBR. Did it go tech? When I saw it this morning I assumed it remained over night for crew rest but it's been almost 24 hours now.

It just departed. Not sure of the reason for the near 24-hour stay. I am sure the plane-spotters and visitors to CBR enjoyed it seeing it during that time though. Would we be down to our last dozen 747 visits ever now? :cry2:

EK413 · Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:17 am

qf789 wrote:
VA938 BNE-SYD diverted to NTL due to a warning light for the cargo hold activating, aircraft is VH-VOT

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-u ... 4206c80943

On its way to MEL.

Flight VA9910 from Newcastle to Melbourne
https://fr24.com/VOZ9910/1f5cc5bf

VapourTrails wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
UPS 747 is still at CBR. Did it go tech? When I saw it this morning I assumed it remained over night for crew rest but it's been almost 24 hours now.

It just departed. Not sure of the reason for the near 24-hour stay. I am sure the plane-spotters and visitors to CBR enjoyed it seeing it during that time though. Would we be down to our last dozen 747 visits ever now?

Just departed CBR only to be placed into a holding pattern.

EK413

eamondzhang · Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:30 am

VapourTrails wrote:
RyanairGuru wrote:
UPS 747 is still at CBR. Did it go tech? When I saw it this morning I assumed it remained over night for crew rest but it's been almost 24 hours now.

It just departed. Not sure of the reason for the near 24-hour stay. I am sure the plane-spotters and visitors to CBR enjoyed it seeing it during that time though. Would we be down to our last dozen 747 visits ever now?

More likely it's crew timed out in CBR and hence the delay IMO. However I do believe this would be one of the first UPS 747 visits to CBR no?

Michael

travelhound · Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:13 pm

Obzerva wrote:
QF has just bought a 19.99% stake in QQ for $60m.
Apparently they want to take a majority stake long term.

interesting to see if this impacts QQ's regional flying for VA.

I suspect QF would ultimately use a Network/Alliance tie up to operate A220 aircraft to secondary / regional airports (QANTASlink) whilst at the same time the QF domestic network would be restructured around major cities / secondary cities using 737 / MOM aircraft.

I suspect Alliance Brisbane based established maintenance operations and the real estate they occupy would be of great benefit for introducing a new type of aircraft like the A220.

EK413 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:49 am

qf789 wrote:
VA raises concerns over on Qantas move on Alliance

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... nc-455462/

With good reason considering QQ operate a number of regional services on behalf of VA. Interesting how this pans out.

EK413

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 2:44 am

EK413 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
VA raises concerns over on Qantas move on Alliance

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... nc-455462/

With good reason considering QQ operate a number of regional services on behalf of VA. Interesting how this pans out.

EK413

Alliance has actually been a good fit for VA. QQ's smaller aircraft are a better fit for plenty of intrastate routes where the 737s are too big. As the article states when the E90s left, this was a good replacement.
I'd be very concerned as well. Strategic move by QF against VA perhaps.

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:12 am

qf789 wrote:
Welcome to Australian Aviation Thread February 2019. Please continue to add your comments below

Summary of January's Thread

QF to start SYD-NAN flights
QF to add fourth weekly SYD-NOU
QF SYD-DPS to see A330 year round
QF to increase SYD-CGK
QF to go daily year round on SYD-MNL
SYD-HNL will remain 744 for the time being

Just wanted to highlight that QF still seems content to focus on SYD.

I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all. With the remaining 744s set to leave the company in the next year or two how will they maintain the current 744 routes let alone expand.

And I see SYD-YVR is being made Canadian Winter seasonal only now. No flights in July or August this year.

smi0006 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:13 am

travelhound wrote:
Obzerva wrote:
QF has just bought a 19.99% stake in QQ for $60m.
Apparently they want to take a majority stake long term.

interesting to see if this impacts QQ's regional flying for VA.

I suspect QF would ultimately use a Network/Alliance tie up to operate A220 aircraft to secondary / regional airports (QANTASlink) whilst at the same time the QF domestic network would be restructured around major cities / secondary cities using 737 / MOM aircraft.

I suspect Alliance Brisbane based established maintenance operations and the real estate they occupy would be of great benefit for introducing a new type of aircraft like the A220.

That makes sense too me and a very flexible option for QF domestically, could also simplify the fleet if they replaced the 717s too.

I do feel this is a strategic move by QF, but they have the cash and VA dont’t otherwise VA could have purchased them. They do seem to have a tight hold on VA, I feel they let them make just enough to stay in business- better the devil you know.

moa999 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:34 am

SeaEagle8 wrote:

Just wanted to highlight that QF still seems content to focus on SYD.

I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all.

Geographic position.
You can funnel ADL, MEL, CBR, Tas and Regionals through Sydney. If you used MEL for example people would be flying in the wrong direction, and further north doesn't have the base demand.

Subject to CASA you'd think you will ultinately have a SYD 787 base for JNB and SCL flights and possibly DFW.

smi0006 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 3:38 am

SeaEagle8 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Welcome to Australian Aviation Thread February 2019. Please continue to add your comments below

Summary of January's Thread

QF to start SYD-NAN flights
QF to add fourth weekly SYD-NOU
QF SYD-DPS to see A330 year round
QF to increase SYD-CGK
QF to go daily year round on SYD-MNL
SYD-HNL will remain 744 for the time being

Just wanted to highlight that QF still seems content to focus on SYD.

I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all. With the remaining 744s set to leave the company in the next year or two how will they maintain the current 744 routes let alone expand.

And I see SYD-YVR is being made Canadian Winter seasonal only now. No flights in July or August this year.

It’s very intriguing!! I do feel we’ll see another 789 order soon, not to mention AA/QF JV if approved will change US flying. I do feel QF is slowly moving towards fragmentation and more P2P.

For JNB I think we’ll see a 789 to JNB daily, and CPT 4weekly with eventual introduction of PER-JNB.

SFO - Daily 789 ex-SYD and MEL.
YVR - no idea, year round 789? Still won’t make up for a 744 in high season.
SCL - daily 789 and eventual intro of another SA port, but no idea when or with what...

QF have added a bit out of SYD over the last couple years, SYD still has the most demand. I think the 789s will open MEL/BNE/PER up, and 797 hopefully an international out of ADL.

MEL-SFO
MEL-DPS
MEL-NRT
PER-LHR
PER-SIN guage change
BNE-LAX freq increase with 789
BNE-NRT (may have been a few years ago now)
MEL/BNE- Tasman changes

With no announcement of a Melbourne lounge upgrade, makes me wonder what the longer term plan is for MEL domestic, I suspect greater integration with international and QF want to see how this plays out. Be impressive if you could check on at domestic, did it recently for MEL-PER on QF9 and was fantastic!!

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:06 am

Yes. SYD has a geographic advantage.

I did realise that QF has added quite a bit out of other bases recently as well but so far their 2019 plans are focussed on SYD.
I just cannot see how the 787s will not be flying out of SYD by next year unless the 744s are kept longer.
BNE-LAX frequency increase was to cover the loss of the 744 on that route so not really growth there. And BNE-NRT was 2015?
MEL did gain SFO and NRT more recently and also DPS in addition to the Jetstar flights.
LHR was the big winner for PER.
Qantas just upgraded their MEL domestic lounges 3 months ago or did you mean international?

ZK-NBT · Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:14 am

SeaEagle8 wrote:
Yes. SYD has a geographic advantage.

I did realise that QF has added quite a bit out of other bases recently as well but so far their 2019 plans are focussed on SYD.
I just cannot see how the 787s will not be flying out of SYD by next year unless the 744s are kept longer.
BNE-LAX frequency increase was to cover the loss of the 744 on that route so not really growth there. And BNE-NRT was 2015?
MEL did gain SFO and NRT more recently and also DPS in addition to the Jetstar flights.
LHR was the big winner for PER.
Qantas just upgraded their MEL domestic lounges 3 months ago or did you mean international?

The 787s are replacing 744s which are all now based in SYD, so I would say the current remaining 6 787s will be based in SYD. What the make up of routes and changes is remains to be seen, I would say SFO increases ex MEL to cover SYD-SFO going 789. And JNB is similar, an A330 added ex PER to cover the loss of seats ex SYD.

qf002 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:30 am

SeaEagle8 wrote:
I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all. With the remaining 744s set to leave the company in the next year or two how will they maintain the current 744 routes let alone expand.

SYD is getting all future deliveries at this stage, not sure why you would have thought otherwise? There will be plenty of love for BNE/MEL as well this year if the AA JV is approved.

But yes, it’s always been clear that there isn’t enough capacity coming in to account for the retirement of the 744s within the timeframe that they have set out. It has always made more sense to me to (indirectly) replace the final 744s with the first 777/A350s coming into the fleet around 2022-23 and QF is yet to meet any of their deadlines for 744 retirement so who knows. The reality is that their public statements are designed to keep investors happy, not keep nerds like us up to date on what to expect.

qf789 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:14 am

BITRE out for November

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... y_1811.pdf

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:21 am

qf002 wrote:
SeaEagle8 wrote:
I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all. With the remaining 744s set to leave the company in the next year or two how will they maintain the current 744 routes let alone expand.

SYD is getting all future deliveries at this stage, not sure why you would have thought otherwise? There will be plenty of love for BNE/MEL as well this year if the AA JV is approved.

But yes, it’s always been clear that there isn’t enough capacity coming in to account for the retirement of the 744s within the timeframe that they have set out. It has always made more sense to me to (indirectly) replace the final 744s with the first 777/A350s coming into the fleet around 2022-23 and QF is yet to meet any of their deadlines for 744 retirement so who knows. The reality is that their public statements are designed to keep investors happy, not keep nerds like us up to date on what to expect.

Yup I agree on paper that only makes sense.

I realise what they've said in public (to targeted audiences) isn't necessarily what's actually going to unfold.

There seems to be quite a lot of what/ifs going on around the QF/AA JV. I would assume if it does go ahead a lot of what will happen will be replacing current capacity. It's not reasonable to assume capacity will double overnight with half a dozen new routes announced.

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:03 am

qf789 wrote:
BITRE out for November

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... y_1811.pdf

There's so much info in there.

Looking at seat utilisation:

QF doing very well
VA is not doing very well

What happened to Asiana? They're down to 50%?
Batik Air Indonesia? What a disaster
Donghai Airlines? How long until they're gone?
Royal Brunei is dismal and they're expanding in Australia?
And are most of the Polynesian routes heavily subsidised? Especially PNG, Solomon Islands, Samoa and Nauru. Wow. Plenty of empty planes.

QF SYD-SCL is averaging 95% on the other hand

zkncj · Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:02 am

Obzerva wrote:
QF has just bought a 19.99% stake in QQ for $60m.
Apparently they want to take a majority stake long term.

interesting to see if this impacts QQ's regional flying for VA.

So an combined fleet of 53 F70/F100 (If QF was to become an major shareholder) that would be an reasonable amount of capital to fork-out in the next 5-10 years to replace an ageing fleet.

NTLDaz · Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:02 am

NTLDaz wrote:
SeaEagle8 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
BITRE out for November

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... y_1811.pdf

There's so much info in there.

Looking at seat utilisation:

QF doing very well
VA is not doing very well

What happened to Asiana? They're down to 50%?
Batik Air Indonesia? What a disaster
Donghai Airlines? How long until they're gone?
Royal Brunei is dismal and they're expanding in Australia?
And are most of the Polynesian routes heavily subsidised? Especially PNG, Solomon Islands, Samoa and Nauru. Wow. Plenty of empty planes.

QF SYD-SCL is averaging 95% on the other hand

Not being a smart alec but just for future reference only Samoa in your list is Polynesian. Nauru is Micronesian, the others are in Melanesia ( at least iPNG's islands ).

smi0006 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:21 am

SeaEagle8 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
BITRE out for November

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... y_1811.pdf

There's so much info in there.

Looking at seat utilisation:

QF doing very well
VA is not doing very well

What happened to Asiana? They're down to 50%?
Batik Air Indonesia? What a disaster
Donghai Airlines? How long until they're gone?
Royal Brunei is dismal and they're expanding in Australia?
And are most of the Polynesian routes heavily subsidised? Especially PNG, Solomon Islands, Samoa and Nauru. Wow. Plenty of empty planes.

QF SYD-SCL is averaging 95% on the other hand

I wonder how much of the SCL traffic is termination gin SCL or connecting? Can a QF 789 make GRU/GIG, or would they compete with NZ/AR in EZE? With LA flying MEL-SCL, would QF dip their toes into BNE-SCL to compliment a SYD-SCL going to a 789?

qf789 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:51 am

smi0006 wrote:
SeaEagle8 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
BITRE out for November

https://bitre.gov.au/publications/ongoi ... y_1811.pdf

There's so much info in there.

Looking at seat utilisation:

QF doing very well
VA is not doing very well

What happened to Asiana? They're down to 50%?
Batik Air Indonesia? What a disaster
Donghai Airlines? How long until they're gone?
Royal Brunei is dismal and they're expanding in Australia?
And are most of the Polynesian routes heavily subsidised? Especially PNG, Solomon Islands, Samoa and Nauru. Wow. Plenty of empty planes.

QF SYD-SCL is averaging 95% on the other hand

I wonder how much of the SCL traffic is termination gin SCL or connecting? Can a QF 789 make GRU/GIG, or would they compete with NZ/AR in EZE? With LA flying MEL-SCL, would QF dip their toes into BNE-SCL to compliment a SYD-SCL going to a 789?

Both GIG and GRU are about 500nm shorter than PER-LHR, so it would come down to winds which would likely be stronger than PER-LHR

SYD-GIG 7312nm
SYD-GRU 7228nm

qf789 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:54 am

EK413 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
VA raises concerns over on Qantas move on Alliance

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... nc-455462/

With good reason considering QQ operate a number of regional services on behalf of VA. Interesting how this pans out.

EK413

And its going to get more interesting next week with Alliance expected to hand down their half year results, so technically QF could make money off the routes operated by QQ for VA

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:35 am

NTLDaz wrote:
Not being a smart alec but just for future reference only Samoa in your list is Polynesian. Nauru is Micronesian, the others are in Melanesia ( at least iPNG's islands ).

Not a smart alec at all. My oversight and I was definitely incorrect.
Those routes specifically mentioned must be heavily subsidised or the airlines just love flying loss making routes.
More routes for Alliance to take over for VA perhaps if their aircraft have the range.

RyanairGuru · Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:45 am

I thought it was already announced that QQ was taking over VA's BNE-POM?

Both QF and PX to POM plus IE and ON carry a lot of diplomatic/government traffic on the one hand and cargo on the other. I wouldn't be shocked at all if those routes were profitable regardless of loads, but I have my doubts about VA to POM and HIR.

mh124 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:47 am

Anyone know how the sri lankan airlines flight to MEL is going? Loads seem fine, but I wasn't sure re yields.
Just thinking - the UL route to CMB and the Air India routes to MEL/SYD combined = 33 000 passengers In Nov. Its enough to fill two A330's a day back and forth. I think they have probably taken passengers from a bunch of south east asian carriers. I won't ask about air india, but has anyone heard of UL adding sydney?

torin · Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:44 am

A man has been shot by police at BNE tonight, due to making bomb threats. Planes and trains stopped at the moment

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-airport-in-lockdown-as-emergency-situation-declared/news-story/163abf2c3545b0c1f70ba0204f1d1485?fbclid=IwAR2mjf6pQAu_Mzd3DLmsCgrY1nYHD1H5nvyfbyr-R-zySSelhfbdsntZSa8

waoz1 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:03 pm

torin wrote:
A man has been shot by police at BNE tonight, due to making bomb threats. Planes and trains stopped at the moment

https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/brisbane-airport-in-lockdown-as-emergency-situation-declared/news-story/163abf2c3545b0c1f70ba0204f1d1485?fbclid=IwAR2mjf6pQAu_Mzd3DLmsCgrY1nYHD1H5nvyfbyr-R-zySSelhfbdsntZSa8

Reports in that the man was shot and in custody of police.

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:04 pm

torin wrote:
A man has been shot by police at BNE tonight, due to making bomb threats. Planes and trains stopped at the moment

News still sounds a bit vague as to what has actually happened.

International terminal?

Must be serious though to shut down the airport.

SeaEagle8 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:48 pm

The November BITRE stats shows some of the SE Asian carriers probably not performing that well.
Batik being the worst by far.
Malindo struggling too a bit? They have reduced Brisbane to 4 weekly indefinitely now. That cannot be a good sign.
They were supposed to fly 739s to MEL as well but have been flying 738s I think.
Royal Brunei can't be making profits with loads like that.
Thai's reductions are being maintained as well.
Another case of too much capacity?

eamondzhang · Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:09 pm

SeaEagle8 wrote:
The November BITRE stats shows some of the SE Asian carriers probably not performing that well.
Batik being the worst by far.
Malindo struggling too a bit? They have reduced Brisbane to 4 weekly indefinitely now. That cannot be a good sign.
They were supposed to fly 739s to MEL as well but have been flying 738s I think.
Royal Brunei can't be making profits with loads like that.
Thai's reductions are being maintained as well.
Another case of too much capacity?

November's typically a slow month however some carrier's load can't be sustainable for sure (without subsidies anyway). We've seen so much capacity being added to the region over the last few years and well to be honest someone will have to blink first.

Donghai's worst however they got a truck load of subsidies which would help shedding a bit of losses.

Batik though is very interesting as is Asiana IMO. Don't think they have that much subsidies available so they can't be making much money at all even if the cargo bay is full. Never seen OZ's load to be this bad in previous BITRE releases..... Wondering what's going on with OZ?

Michael

jupiter2 · Sat Feb 02, 2019 11:53 pm

OZ, flying the 380 here when there is absolutely no need to. Keep flying the 777 and the numbers would look ok.

melpax · Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:25 am

SeaEagle8 wrote:
torin wrote:
A man has been shot by police at BNE tonight, due to making bomb threats. Planes and trains stopped at the moment

News still sounds a bit vague as to what has actually happened.

International terminal?

Must be serious though to shut down the airport.

Appears to have been domestic violence related...

https://www.news.com.au/national/queens ... 204f1d1485

Captdasbomb · Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:51 am

SeaEagle8 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Welcome to Australian Aviation Thread February 2019. Please continue to add your comments below

Summary of January's Thread

QF to start SYD-NAN flights
QF to add fourth weekly SYD-NOU
QF SYD-DPS to see A330 year round
QF to increase SYD-CGK
QF to go daily year round on SYD-MNL
SYD-HNL will remain 744 for the time being

Just wanted to highlight that QF still seems content to focus on SYD.

I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all. With the remaining 744s set to leave the company in the next year or two how will they maintain the current 744 routes let alone expand.

And I see SYD-YVR is being made Canadian Winter seasonal only now. No flights in July or August this year.

Dreamliner definitely coming to Sydney. Sydney to Hong Kong (QQ117/118) will be dreamliner 6 days a week from March 30 i think

Flyerqf · Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:20 am

Captdasbomb wrote:
SeaEagle8 wrote:
qf789 wrote:
Welcome to Australian Aviation Thread February 2019. Please continue to add your comments below

Summary of January's Thread

QF to start SYD-NAN flights
QF to add fourth weekly SYD-NOU
QF SYD-DPS to see A330 year round
QF to increase SYD-CGK
QF to go daily year round on SYD-MNL
SYD-HNL will remain 744 for the time being

Just wanted to highlight that QF still seems content to focus on SYD.

I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all. With the remaining 744s set to leave the company in the next year or two how will they maintain the current 744 routes let alone expand.

And I see SYD-YVR is being made Canadian Winter seasonal only now. No flights in July or August this year.

Dreamliner definitely coming to Sydney. Sydney to Hong Kong (QQ117/118) will be dreamliner 6 days a week from March 30 i think

QF127/128 but yes 6 days a week from end March (1 day is 333) and will be A380 in peak times.

This 787 is coming straight from QF29/30 that will revert back to 333. This is not an additional frame.

EK413 · Sun Feb 03, 2019 3:38 am

Flyerqf wrote:
Captdasbomb wrote:
SeaEagle8 wrote:

Just wanted to highlight that QF still seems content to focus on SYD.

I know this has been discussed but logistically I'm questioning the remaining 787 deliveries and where they are going to go. I just cannot see how they won't touch SYD at all. With the remaining 744s set to leave the company in the next year or two how will they maintain the current 744 routes let alone expand.

And I see SYD-YVR is being made Canadian Winter seasonal only now. No flights in July or August this year.

Dreamliner definitely coming to Sydney. Sydney to Hong Kong (QQ117/118) will be dreamliner 6 days a week from March 30 i think

QF127/128 but yes 6 days a week from end March (1 day is 333) and will be A380 in peak times.

This 787 is coming straight from QF29/30 that will revert back to 333. This is not an additional frame.

Speaking of which today’s QF29 has been cancelled result VH-OEG mechanical issues (B744 Ops in lieu B789). Appears as though VH-OEF is currently enroute positioning SYD-HKG to form the QF30. Qantas are still down 1 x B789 VH-ZNG which has been damaged by ground equipment & pending repairs.

EK413

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