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Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:21 pm

In an interview in today's Le Journal du Dimanche, Anne Rigail revealed that Air France will place an order at Le Bourget. No additional details given.

Also in the interview:
- 7 A380s will be refurbished while 3 will be returned to lessor.
- First A350 is due in September, AF is already committed for at least 10 of them.
- 3 787-9 to be delivered this year
- 125 M € to refurb COI 77W.

Screenshot of the article can be found on twitter: https://twitter.com/lgl_morgane/status/1094537858264768512
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:24 pm

must be the narrowbody order.
Is this AF or AF-KLM?
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:28 pm

Maybe for JOON? (just kidding)
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:30 pm

FlyRow wrote:
must be the narrowbody order.
Is this AF or AF-KLM?


The interview is of AF's CEO. But considering Ben Smith wants a group approach to orders then it might be for AF-KLM.
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:42 pm

FlyRow wrote:
must be the narrowbody order.
Is this AF or AF-KLM?

I doubt it, because this is the AF CEO. The big narrowbody is supposed to be made on group level, just as the A350, and B787 orders were. But smaller orders are still made by the individual airlines.
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:48 pm

I guess 7 A380s are staying now instead of 5.
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:03 pm

An order for A220 aircraft seems quite possible. Replace most of the Hop fleet and 318/319s with A220s, then order 737Max/320neo to gradually replace the existing 320 fleet.
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:08 pm

What are AF's aircraft needs at the moment? Is its NBs up for replacement, and if so how many? If for expansion how many? And what about its WB fleet? Does AF have enough, are some aircraft up for replacement, or is expansion planned?
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:20 pm

Looking at narrowbodies, AF's oldest are A318/319/321. So these might be what they are looking to replace.

There are also some very old B777-200ER. Maybe those A359s meant for Joon will be repurposed? Perhaps, they may also want to make another top up order?
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:25 pm

So which routes might lose the A380?
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 4:49 pm

Interesting, when are going to leave those 3 A380 ?
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:03 pm

Forgive my igornace, Ben Smith is no longer the CEO if Air France; correct?
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:07 pm

RichardWelling wrote:
Forgive my igornace, Ben Smith is no longer the CEO if Air France; correct?



as i understand it he's ceo of the KLM-AF group as a whole. same way willie walsh is ceo of IAG but not BA.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:16 pm

RichardWelling wrote:
Forgive my igornace, Ben Smith is no longer the CEO if Air France; correct?


Chief Executive Officer Air France-KLM: Ben Smith
Chief Executive Officer Air France: Anne Rigail
President and CEO, KLM: Pieter Elbers

https://www.airfranceklm.com/en/group-executive-committee
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:12 pm

I feel this will be either a NB order to replace A318/319 or a WB order for the 772.

All the other aircraft are still young-ish or, like the A332, have just been upgraded.

Maybe A220 or more A320 family for NB.

Maybe a top up order of either 789 or A359 (or both) for 772 replacement. Orders placed now will probably arrive 2-5 years from now when the oldest 772s are 20-25 years old. Right on time for replacement.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:28 pm

A321neoLRs to jump in that game?
A220?
797 launch customer?
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:43 pm

A220 order will make sense, Air France have a large A318 and A319 fleet that is ageing:
Youngest A318 is 12, oldest 15
Youngest A319 is 13, oldest 22
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:51 pm

A220s seem likely. Wouldn't be shocked if it's an A320neo order, either (probably 321neo).

If it's a 737MAX order, I will fall out of my chair in shock.
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:55 pm

My bet is on the A220 to replace the aging narrowbody fleet.

Maybe some A321LR. Everything is just speculation but it will be interesting in all cases.

20 A220-100
30 A220-300
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:27 pm

AF doesn't need an additional WB order for now. 21 A359 + 11 789 is enough to cover 25 772 and 2(+4 Joon) A343.

My bet is on narrow-body, something like:

15 A220-100
30 A220-300

50 A320NEO
25 A321NEO
15 A321LR (will free up A332 from some African routes, increasing overhaul long-haul capacity).

Of course it might be less since some A320 are quite recent. but that would be close to what they need.
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:40 pm

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My bet is on the A220 to replace the aging narrowbody fleet.

Maybe some A321LR. Everything is just speculation but it will be interesting in all cases.

20 A220-100
30 A220-300
15 A321LR


I think they will take some A320s as well. Looking at AF 320s layout I doubt the A223 could fully fulfill that role. I think we'll see a mix of A220s, A320s & A321s.
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:51 pm

Also depends if Transavia is involved.
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:58 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
A321neoLRs to jump in that game?
A220?
797 launch customer?

I'd bet:
no. 1: A220 or E2 order
no. 2: 797 launch customer
no. 3: anything else
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:22 pm

AsiaTravel wrote:
AF doesn't need an additional WB order for now. 21 A359 + 11 789 is enough to cover 25 772 and 2(+4 Joon) A343.

My bet is on narrow-body, something like:

15 A220-100
30 A220-300

50 A320NEO
25 A321NEO
15 A321LR (will free up A332 from some African routes, increasing overhaul long-haul capacity).

Of course it might be less since some A320 are quite recent. but that would be close to what they need.


I had completely forgotten how many A359 and 789 orders they still have outstanding. That covers for the 772 very nicely.

Is the A359 seat count on AF's Wikipedia page correct?

So, their order will most like be a NB one. Likely A220s and A320 family.
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:25 pm

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A321neoLRs to jump in that game?
A220?
797 launch customer?


I believe it was reported last week that Boeing will not launch the NMA until 2020 at the earliest. So AF will not be ordering (or announcing an order for) it this year.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:58 pm

More 787-9 and hopefully some 777-9, 20 would be nice start to expand and replace the current 777 fleet.
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:04 pm

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More 787-9 and hopefully some 777-9, 20 would be nice start to expand and replace the current 777 fleet.


why replace the 777 if you are in the middle of a refurb including the 777.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:16 pm

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More 787-9 and hopefully some 777-9, 20 would be nice start to expand and replace the current 777 fleet.


This order is almost certainly for single-aisle replacements, so you're likely to be disappointed.
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:16 pm

Even if it is just AF, it has to include Hop! fleet renewal. I would say something like 70 to 100 A220 (100 and 300) and 50 A320NEO (mostly A321NEO/LR).
If it also involved Transavia and KLM, this should be fun to watch.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:22 pm

Stupid question, but any chance of a new A380 order if the price is lowered drastically?
It's not the A220. It's the Bombardier CSeries. Period.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:25 pm

What's the smart money on in terms of eventual KLM narrow body renewal ? Is a consolidated pan group type likely whatever that type may be ?
 
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What's the smart money on in terms of eventual KLM narrow body renewal ? Is a consolidated pan group type likely whatever that type may be ?
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:27 pm

FlightLevel360 wrote:
Stupid question, but any chance of a new A380 order if the price is lowered drastically?


Not a chance. AF already converted the 2 last A380 they had on order to A350 and they are going to let go soon 2 to 5 of their 10 frames.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:36 pm

JannEejit wrote:
What's the smart money on in terms of eventual KLM narrow body renewal ? Is a consolidated pan group type likely whatever that type may be ?


Maybe, Dutch ground workers have stated that they prefer containerised a320's instead of the manuel loaded 737.
But that doesn't say much, it's the pilot/crew training that is the big issue for KLM which has to be factored in to the price picture.

I do believe KLM techniek/technic can maintain the a320 already although i'm not 100% sure about it.

It will be a total price picture, but I would be very surprised if the narrowbody order would be not-grouped. A hop order maybe, KLM did that with cityhopper. But I would expect the narrowbody order to be shared.

However, they could still operate two types. KLM+Transavia is large enough to warrent a order of type 1, with Air France for type 2. The size of the order is probably enough to not feel the cost of operating two types.
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:40 pm

FlightLevel360 wrote:
Stupid question, but any chance of a new A380 order if the price is lowered drastically?


No
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:41 pm

mig17 wrote:
FlightLevel360 wrote:
Stupid question, but any chance of a new A380 order if the price is lowered drastically?


Not a chance. AF already converted the 2 last A380 they had on order to A350 and they are going to let go soon 2 to 5 of their 10 frames.


Non, -100%, geen, nada, zilch.

Would be very weird "hey we are dropping the A380 we already have because we can't fill them, oooh airbus offered them cheap, lets buy them but still don't fill them".
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:02 pm

mxaxai wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
A321neoLRs to jump in that game?
A220?
797 launch customer?

I'd bet:
no. 1: A220 or E2 order
no. 2: 797 launch customer
no. 3: anything else


Question: Can Boeing announce a "Launch Customer" for a product they haven't committed to build yet (since that decision now isn't coming until 2020)? To me it seems like it would be putting the cart before the horse.
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:02 pm

I hope they order 20 747-8’s

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Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:06 pm

FlyRow wrote:
JannEejit wrote:
What's the smart money on in terms of eventual KLM narrow body renewal ? Is a consolidated pan group type likely whatever that type may be ?


Maybe, Dutch ground workers have stated that they prefer containerised a320's instead of the manuel loaded 737.
But that doesn't say much, it's the pilot/crew training that is the big issue for KLM which has to be factored in to the price picture.


When KL got the 787, AF I believed trained their pilots on it. I’d imagine if AF/KL ordered the A320NEO, they’d probably train their pilots on the 320 as well. I also believe KLM has a rather large MRO, and are probably capable of maintaining the 320NEO. The bigger question is what NEO models would they order?
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:15 pm

It seems pretty likely that they'll be ordering A220s to replace their A318s and A319s (which are very old). A321neo or A321LR's may be under consideration as well although AF are still getting A321ceos from Airbus.

AF is also getting A320ceos from Airbus so I don't think we'll see an A320neo order just yet. AF may be waiting to see if Airbus decides to stretch the A220 out to make an A220-500 (which would be better than the A320neo on short routes that don't have demanding field performance requirements).

Of course I like the idea of AF getting A321neoLRs to run TATL trips from Orly but that's my own fantasizing taking over.

I have no doubt AF will eventually order A350-1000s to replace the 777-300ERs, but that won't happen for a while. In addition, they MIGHT be persuaded to take 787-8s (the new ones with commonality improvements, weight reductions etc) to replace their A330-200s, but that will not happen for at least 5 years time given the A330-200s have just been refurbished.
 
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Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:38 pm

StudiodeKadent wrote:
It seems pretty likely that they'll be ordering A220s to replace their A318s and A319s (which are very old). A321neo or A321LR's may be under consideration as well although AF are still getting A321ceos from Airbus.

AF is also getting A320ceos from Airbus so I don't think we'll see an A320neo order just yet. AF may be waiting to see if Airbus decides to stretch the A220 out to make an A220-500 (which would be better than the A320neo on short routes that don't have demanding field performance requirements).

Of course I like the idea of AF getting A321neoLRs to run TATL trips from Orly but that's my own fantasizing taking over.

I have no doubt AF will eventually order A350-1000s to replace the 777-300ERs, but that won't happen for a while. In addition, they MIGHT be persuaded to take 787-8s (the new ones with commonality improvements, weight reductions etc) to replace their A330-200s, but that will not happen for at least 5 years time given the A330-200s have just been refurbished.


The A350-1000 has no chance, if it comes a wide-body order will be for the Boeing 777x
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:53 pm

RainerBoeing777 wrote:
StudiodeKadent wrote:
It seems pretty likely that they'll be ordering A220s to replace their A318s and A319s (which are very old). A321neo or A321LR's may be under consideration as well although AF are still getting A321ceos from Airbus.

AF is also getting A320ceos from Airbus so I don't think we'll see an A320neo order just yet. AF may be waiting to see if Airbus decides to stretch the A220 out to make an A220-500 (which would be better than the A320neo on short routes that don't have demanding field performance requirements).

Of course I like the idea of AF getting A321neoLRs to run TATL trips from Orly but that's my own fantasizing taking over.

I have no doubt AF will eventually order A350-1000s to replace the 777-300ERs, but that won't happen for a while. In addition, they MIGHT be persuaded to take 787-8s (the new ones with commonality improvements, weight reductions etc) to replace their A330-200s, but that will not happen for at least 5 years time given the A330-200s have just been refurbished.


The A350-1000 has no chance, if it comes a wide-body order will be for the Boeing 777x


I think quite the opposite.


But I also think it will be an order for the A220 and A321neo
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:30 am

Outside of the parent company, there is no part of the A220 that’s native to Europe or France. Not the PW (USA) engines. Not the assembly. There is no secondary economic value or jobs. Given this, it doesn’t have a home field advantage that many are assuming. Embraer sits nearly equal with the only major difference being the E2-195 is smaller than the A223.

On the otherhand, a neo order powered by CFM gets a lot of home-country advantage, especially related to jobs and secondary economic return which is the rage for politicians these days.

The narrow body market is remarkably equal on overall performance and less subject to pure fundamental frame size matching. (WB market is more influenced on performance factors).

As such, I’ll be surprised if this is anything but a typical sized neo order.
 
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RainerBoeing777 wrote:
StudiodeKadent wrote:
It seems pretty likely that they'll be ordering A220s to replace their A318s and A319s (which are very old). A321neo or A321LR's may be under consideration as well although AF are still getting A321ceos from Airbus.

AF is also getting A320ceos from Airbus so I don't think we'll see an A320neo order just yet. AF may be waiting to see if Airbus decides to stretch the A220 out to make an A220-500 (which would be better than the A320neo on short routes that don't have demanding field performance requirements).

Of course I like the idea of AF getting A321neoLRs to run TATL trips from Orly but that's my own fantasizing taking over.

I have no doubt AF will eventually order A350-1000s to replace the 777-300ERs, but that won't happen for a while. In addition, they MIGHT be persuaded to take 787-8s (the new ones with commonality improvements, weight reductions etc) to replace their A330-200s, but that will not happen for at least 5 years time given the A330-200s have just been refurbished.


The A350-1000 has no chance, if it comes a wide-body order will be for the Boeing 777x


Why would AF choose the 777X over the A350-1000 when the A350-1000 will offer more than enough performance as well as commonality with AF's A350-900s?

The 777-9 is undoubtedly a very sexy jet but do AF need its additional size over the A350-1000?

The reality is that most airlines are following a trend of fleet simplification and route fragmentation. Its industry-wide. Smaller jets with longer ranges are allowing hubs to be bypassed, and airlines are increasingly reducing the number of aircraft families their fleets are composed of. The A350-1000, relative to the 777-9 in the specific context of Air France, is consistent with these trends.

I certainly understand that Air France wouldn't want to become Airbus-only or destroy its relationship with Boeing. But AF could ease Boeing's pain by eventually getting 787-8s to replace the A330-200 fleet, just as the 787-9 was the replacement for the A340-300 fleet. Thus, the mid-size widebodies which used to be Airbus are now Boeing, and the larger-sized widebodies which used to be Boeing (i.e. the 777 family) become Airbus (the A350 family).
 
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Okcflyer wrote:
Outside of the parent company, there is no part of the A220 that’s native to Europe or France. Not the PW (USA) engines. Not the assembly. There is no secondary economic value or jobs. Given this, it doesn’t have a home field advantage that many are assuming. Embraer sits nearly equal with the only major difference being the E2-195 is smaller than the A223.

On the otherhand, a neo order powered by CFM gets a lot of home-country advantage, especially related to jobs and secondary economic return which is the rage for politicians these days.

The narrow body market is remarkably equal on overall performance and less subject to pure fundamental frame size matching. (WB market is more influenced on performance factors).

As such, I’ll be surprised if this is anything but a typical sized neo order.

Of course... Because the wings are not built in Ireland, the Air Management System is not built in Germany and France; and none of the Tier-2 and below suppliers are European... :roll:

What utter non-sense
 
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Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:59 am

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The reality is that most airlines are following a trend of fleet simplification and route fragmentation. Its industry-wide. Smaller jets with longer ranges are allowing hubs to be bypassed, and airlines are increasingly reducing the number of aircraft families their fleets are composed of. The A350-1000, relative to the 777-9 in the specific context of Air France, is consistent with these trends.

Ok, so help me out here, AF already had the 777 in their fleet, but they simplified their fleet by purchasing the A350?
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:23 am

FlightLevel360 wrote:
Stupid question, but any chance of a new A380 order if the price is lowered drastically?

The chance of Airbus lowering the price of the A380 at all is zero; they are already losing money on every one they build. All indications are that they are working to shut the line down as soon as they can.
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:29 am

par13del wrote:
StudiodeKadent wrote:
The reality is that most airlines are following a trend of fleet simplification and route fragmentation. Its industry-wide. Smaller jets with longer ranges are allowing hubs to be bypassed, and airlines are increasingly reducing the number of aircraft families their fleets are composed of. The A350-1000, relative to the 777-9 in the specific context of Air France, is consistent with these trends.

Ok, so help me out here, AF already had the 777 in their fleet, but they simplified their fleet by purchasing the A350?


No, I'm saying that using the A350 as the ultimate replacement for the 777 makes more sense, at least on an "apparently to me" basis, than getting the 777-9 to replace the 777-300ER.

A350-900 ultimately replaces the 777-200ERs. A350-1000 ultimately replaces the 777-300ERs. That would result in more consistency, commonality and fleet simplicity than by keeping the A350-900 to replace the 777-200ERs, but electing for the 777-9 to replace the 777-300ER
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:33 am

WayexTDI wrote:
Okcflyer wrote:
Outside of the parent company, there is no part of the A220 that’s native to Europe or France. Not the PW (USA) engines. Not the assembly. There is no secondary economic value or jobs. Given this, it doesn’t have a home field advantage that many are assuming. Embraer sits nearly equal with the only major difference being the E2-195 is smaller than the A223.

On the otherhand, a neo order powered by CFM gets a lot of home-country advantage, especially related to jobs and secondary economic return which is the rage for politicians these days.

The narrow body market is remarkably equal on overall performance and less subject to pure fundamental frame size matching. (WB market is more influenced on performance factors).

As such, I’ll be surprised if this is anything but a typical sized neo order.

Of course... Because the wings are not built in Ireland, the Air Management System is not built in Germany and France; and none of the Tier-2 and below suppliers are European... :roll:

What utter non-sense


Not to mention the parent company (a partly French one, at that) will bring home 50.01% of any profits from CSAPL. None of whatever profit the E2 program makes will go to Europe, other than on specific components.

I agree with the person who said this order will probably include:
* A220-100;
* A220-300;
* A320neo (maybe, maybe not);
* A321neo; and
* A321neoLR.

As someone else mentioned, some of the 777s are getting on in age, so I wonder if we might see an order for their replacement soon. But, I expect AF will want to get the A350 bedded down in its fleet and build up some in-service data of their own for those (to compare with 787 in-service data and performance specs for 777X) before deciding on a 777 replacement.
 
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Re: Air France will place an order at Le Bourget - Anne Rigail, CEO

Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:50 am

AsiaTravel wrote:
In an interview in today's Le Journal du Dimanche, Anne Rigail revealed that Air France will place an order at Le Bourget. No additional details given.

Also in the interview:

- 125 M € to refurb COI 77W.

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$125 mm to refurm a 777-300ER? Is this possible? It seems very expensive...

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