If anyone here -really thinks- there is NO market for the A3XX and the world will just create airport slots forever and ever like lottery tickets, hedging on the efforts of US officials to get Open Skies agreements everywhere..then it's obvious the "Flat Earth Society" must be alive and well (LOL!).
If anyone has read thru or followed the recent US-Chinese and US-Japanese Bilateral aviation agreements, they are -far- from bending over and dropping their shorts being told to open up their airspace which in many cases is bursting at the seams as well or straining under the limits of antiquated ATC equipment, But then again, some will continue to assume same position like ostrich and bury deep into so much sand. (G)
Not many people have figured out that one of the objectives of these Open Skies agreements is to guarantee work for Boeing of course, US industry and government have a stake in looking out for each other.
If Boeing says it wants to go "this way" then government will do what it can to force the issue. Read that as, "Open Skies".
But to date, these have had limited success in Europe, with paltry success in Asia. If people honestly expect governments of Asia to open up landing slots to more US carriers scheduling flights as they see fit competing against their carriers which have3 yet to realize the economic operating environment the US is using with it's Deregulated environment
..then I have some -choice beachfront property- in the Gobi Desert to sell! (LOL!) Along with a bridge or two. (LOL!)
(The 75 CRJ ER flights from LAX-to HKG made me laugh out loud!...Fell off my chair reading that one!..Great one F-WWKH!!! HAHAHAHA!)
I'll repeat this ONE More Time campers...
Asia is Not the US..
Asia is NOT the US....
ASIA IS NOT THE US!!!!
Sheesh...When does it get through!? (LOL!)
Southwest Airlines and MetroJet dont fly here, We dont have billboards that say "Albuquickly on Southwest" or Regional Jet traffic the way it's being done -back there-..No we dont have Walmart yet either....Carrefour, Continent Hypermarket and Makro (a Dutch retailer) along with ShinKong Mitsukoshi (a Taiwanese/Japanese joint venture from the famous Mistukoshi Department store chain in Japan suffice for that (BTW..CarreFour soon to be the worlds second largest retailer I might add)
If one cares to look at a map and take some ideas of political boundaries and economic systems...We have several countries within 4 hours of flying time from where I'm located and guess what..they arent states under one flag. They are individual countries with their own ways of doing things...And yes...the people travel for the most part on WIDEBODY airplanes out here, sometimes sold completely out, and it will become that as the Asian Economy recovers from the meltdown in 1997. It's already on it's way back in a massive way. This is going to -completely- debunk the Boeing market forecast.
Read ---Absolutely, TOTALLY, In SPADES Debunk--- their market forecast..and nothing they or the US government tries to do negotiating Open Sky treaties to cover their market plans and forecasts are going to change this.
OK?..Understand..I hope so..(LOL!) It's hysterical ---trying--- to get this point across. But..someday..I hope it will. I only live here and follow the news, I'm very much in touch with the government and business community here and the region -I have to-.
Anyhow..I think I make my point here, In closing here's a snippet from Reuters,
It appears we'll be able to book those A3XX flights in 2005. I'll be thinking of this "There's No Market for the A3XX" pablum while sipping a glass of champagne on a -probable- Cathay Pacific A3XX as it wings it's way from Hong Kong to New York...nonstop.
Why...if we fly over Seattle or near it..I'll toast the mighty Boeing Company facilites below..in "salute" for their "absolute confidence and oh-so-accurate -market-projection from a scant few years before"...(try speaking that with an impersonation of Walter Cronkite..kinda gets the comedic manner I intend it..(LOL!).....Laugh with glee and have another glass... (LOL!)
Take off for giant Airbus plane seen in 2005-paper
Reuters Story - August 29, 1999 22:18
LONDON, Aug 30 (Reuters) - European aircraft consortium Airbus Industrie [ARBU.CN] is pressing ahead with plans to build the world's biggest aircraft in 2005, the Guardian newspaper reported on Monday.
But it said British Trade and Industry Secretary Stephen Byers had told consortium member British Aerospace that Airbus had to take more positive steps to turn itself into a public company before his government would pay 500 million pounds ($793.1 million) in grants for the project.
The Guardian quoted British Aerospace (BAe), which owns 20 percent of Airbus, as saying it would build the A3XX's wings and had drawn up plans to extend its Broughton plant near Chester in northern England.
Toulouse-based Airbus would build 48 of the double-decker aircraft, designed to carry around 600 people, in its first year of production and the project would create an extra 22,000 jobs in Britain, the paper said.
The A3XX's development costs have been estimated at up to $12 billion.
BAe has applied for up to 500 million pounds in repayable aid from the British government, and the Guardian reported BAe executives as saying they could not develop the project any further if Byers persisted with his demand for more progress on transforming the Airbus corporate identity by November.
A meeting of the Airbus board in that month will decide whether to launch the A3XX, intended to compete with rival Boeing's 747 jumbo jets.
The Airbus consortium comprises Aerospatiale Matra , Daimler-Benz Aerospace , British Aerospace and Spain's Construcciones Aeronauticas SA (CASA).($1=.6304 Pound)