zakuivcustom wrote:Well, I wouldn't comment on the situation further north since I don't know enough. But one of the main points for opposition to lHKG's 3rd runway has been the fact that it doesn't do as much as it does on paper due to the altitude restriction for arriving flights, i.e. flights has to be above 10000ft (I don't remember the exact number) before reaching Hong Kong FIR.
Ultimately, it's one thing that the central gov't talk about all these "Greater Bay Area" BS, it's another when they can't even collaborate with each other on airspace issue. The airspace is going to get more crowded anyway, regardless of whether SZX get the 3rd runway, whether they build another new airport near Guangzhou (The planned airport near Gaoming district between Foshan and Jiangmen), or perhaps the eventual lifting of "domestic only" restriction on ZUH.
B1168 wrote:I honestly agree. The central government has difficulties asserting controversial infrastructure projects, and any attempt to put the airspace of the greater Bay Area can cause unexpected spikes on issues like “high autonomy of HK and Macau” being “sabotaged”, considering their reactions during the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong HSR construction. That can effectively cause the government to just forfeit part of their plans...... they put it this way themselves.
zakuivcustom wrote:B1168 wrote:I honestly agree. The central government has difficulties asserting controversial infrastructure projects, and any attempt to put the airspace of the greater Bay Area can cause unexpected spikes on issues like “high autonomy of HK and Macau” being “sabotaged”, considering their reactions during the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong HSR construction. That can effectively cause the government to just forfeit part of their plans...... they put it this way themselves.
I would argue that it's the Chinese side that is somewhat the problem for HKG airspace, though. It's more complicated than "sabotaging autonomy" anyway as IIRC part of the airspace restriction, like elsewhere in mainland, has to do with PLA - i.e. good luck having the military lifting some of those restrictions.
The HSR construction along with the border control "issue" is pure politics anyway - I would argue that if US is going to put a preclearance in HKG airport, those same politicians will quickly accept that .
As for ZUH - for some reason I keep thinking that they don't have border control at the airport. But Google search did reveal that there are occasional international charters in and out of the airport, so you're correct. It's insane how fast that airport is growing anyway, from 2.5M pax in 2013 to >10M now.
On the other hand, ZUH is managed by a JV between HK Airport Authority and Zhuhai gov't, so I doubt HKAA themselves would want even more international "competition" in the PRD area .
B1168 wrote:ZUH indeed has seen impressive growth——in fact, a new terminal has been on the way. If ZUH continue its growth, maybe CA or CZ will be sufficiently interested to base a few aircrafts there and fly some international tourism routes i.e. Bangkok. I can’t say for CZ, but given CA’s consistent ability to override CAAC rulings, won’t be surprised at that either.
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