ken4556
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United 777 To The Pacific-Where Are 747 Going?

Tue Aug 31, 1999 6:47 am

As posted before, it has been stated that United is placing the 777 on the SEA-NRT route and maybe other routes. If this info is true, where is United going to place the 747 that were on these routes?

 
flyf15
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RE: United 777 To The Pacific-Where Are 747 Going?

Tue Aug 31, 1999 7:32 am

They are being put on some US domestic routes (here in Denver, we have gone from no UA 747 flights a year ago to many), flights to Europe, and I think (but am not sure) to South America.
 
FLY777UAL
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RE: United 777 To The Pacific-Where Are 747 Going?

Tue Aug 31, 1999 7:55 am

There are only going to be a few 777 flights across the Pacific, and those flights will be additional flights, and will not replace any of the 747-400's (with the obvious SEA-NRT exception). The 747-400's will return to the Pacific very soon, with UA re-opening the SFO-SEL flight, the 2nd daily SFO-HKG flight, LAX-KIX, ORD-KIX, the 2nd SFO-KIX (or is that the 3rd?), HNL-NRT, HNL-KIX, and many, many other flights that were taken out of UA's system. So to be brief, the 747-400's are going back to their origional routes in the Pacific.

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ord
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FLY777UAL

Tue Aug 31, 1999 10:43 pm

Just curious where you are getting your info. I have heard nothing about United resuming service on the SFO-SEL and ORD-KIX routes (LAX-KIX was never dropped).

Thanks.
 
Seattle Ops
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RE: United 777 To The Pacific-Where Are 747 Going?

Tue Aug 31, 1999 10:56 pm

UA will need 2 747's for the new LAX-MEL flight starting up this winter. (last time I looked LAX-KIX wasnt operating)
 
367-80
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It's Because Of The Asian Economic Crisis

Wed Sep 01, 1999 2:15 am

UA decided to deploy temporarily much of its B747-400 fleet due to the recent economic slump in Asia. UA believed it would get better yields from the B747-400 fleet on transatlantic and hub-to-hub flights, at least during the high-demand summer months. UA has flown most of its transatlantic flights out of IAD this summer with B747-400s, while only last summer it used B777-200s exclusively.

I guess the smaller passenger yields on many Asian routes makes the Triple Seven a better choice for the transpacific market, at least until the region's economies perk up. Of course, once they do, you can bet the big birds will be back on the west coast.
 
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RE: It's Because Of The Asian Economic Crisis

Wed Sep 01, 1999 6:53 am

367 pretty much nailed it on the head. The 747-400s were redeployed to hub-hub operations and trans-atlantic ops. While it has been good to see them on the east coast going across the atlantic they will surely go back to the west when the economy returns 
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FLY777UAL
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ORD

Wed Sep 01, 1999 7:35 am

I get my info from UA. Actually, they are very close to re-opening the SFO-SEL flight, as well as a re-start of the ORD-KIX. About the LAX-KIX thing...sorry my fault...I was thinking the wrong hub!

There ya go...

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dgs
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FLY777UAL

Wed Sep 01, 1999 12:56 pm

You are correct..Flt 817 LAX-KIX was pulled a few months ago..The only service to KIX is flt 809 SFO-KIX..Oh I forgot the Freighter goes LAX-ANC-KIX 5 days a week with MNL in there on 4 days a week...

 
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RE: United 777 To Australia

Wed Sep 01, 1999 6:40 pm

I heard that United may be using 777-200 on routes to either Melbourne or Sydney (or Both) in the future. Can anybody confirm this or will they continue their 747-400 service to Sydney and Melbourne as usual.

Steven
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RE: United 777 To The Pacific-Where Are 747 Going?

Wed Sep 01, 1999 8:37 pm

UA will definitely be keeping the 747-400s on the LA and SF to Australia routes - these are consistent moneymakers and although Qantas fly to LA, UA have a monopoly in as much as QF can only get you to that one city, then you have to change onto American Airlines, whereas UA fly on to however many hundred US domestic destinations they serve. Those 747s are full year round, plus, these are amongst the longest and most remote flights anywhere in the world, in fact I think LAX - SYD is the longest scheduled flight in the world to be operated year-round non-stop. A 777 doesn't have the range (sometimes nearly 16 hours) and the lack of engines is a worry on a journey that is entirely over water and regularly outside even the 207-minute ETOPS requirement.
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ord
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FLY777UAL

Wed Sep 01, 1999 11:02 pm

You were right: United has indeed dropped the LAX-KIX nonstop. I didn't think this flight was gone, but according to the schedule it is.

Sorry for the incorrect info.