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Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Thu Mar 28, 2002 1:49 am

Here is the schedule of the new Hydro Air Cargo flights to/from Brussels.

HYC is operating two flights a week between JNB and BRU, with a stop at LOS.

http://www.brusselsairport.be/cargo/cargotime_frame.cfm

Cargo flights from Brussels (BRU) to JOHANNESBURG (JNB)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
HYC701 ------7 21:00 10:30 74F 3103-2610
HYC301 --3---- 21:00 10:30 74F 3103-2610

Cargo flights from JOHANNESBURG (JNB) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
HYC603 -----6- 20:55 10:25 74F 3103-2610
HYC203 -2----- 20:55 10:25 74F 3103-2610


Cargo flights from Brussels (BRU) to LAGOS (LOS)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
HYC701 ------7 21:00 02:20 74F 3103-2610
HYC301 --3---- 21:00 02:20 74F 3103-2610

Cargo flights from LAGOS (LOS) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
HYC603 ------7 03:05 10:25 74F 3103-2610
HYC203 --3---- 03:05 10:25 74F 3103-2610



Does somebody have more info on this new operation, as well as on the (alleged) cooperation between HYC and DHL? Thanks in advance.

 
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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Thu Mar 28, 2002 1:58 am


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This is the first picture on A.net of HYC at BRU.

Apparently the cargo handling for HYC is done by Sabena Cargo.
 
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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Thu Mar 28, 2002 2:42 am

I hope to see it next time I am in Brussels.
Thank you for the schedules Established02!!

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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Thu Mar 28, 2002 5:26 am

Established 02, are you sure it is handled by SABENA ? It looks like the plane is standing at the Belgavia Cargo-apron where other freighters as Asiana, Saudia and Eva Air stand.
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PS : If you want to picture the 747 Hydro Air, better to be there on a Sundaymorning because normally all landings (including freighters) are on 25L. During the week, they might be guided to 25R depending traffic.
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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:23 am

Hydro Air Cargo is handled by Sabena Cargo. Asiana is loaded by Sabena Cargo and the cargo is handled by SFS Belgium. EVA Air and Saoudi are handled by Aviapartner.
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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Thu Mar 28, 2002 6:43 am

> Established 02, are you sure it is handled by SABENA?

ILS.25L,

The HYC 747 on the picture above is at least standing in front of the green-blue Sabena warehouse.

By the way, has the company name "Hydro" Air Cargo anything to do with "water"? The mother company of HYC is perhaps a shipping company in South-Africa. Perhaps just like Canadian Pacific, they're involved with various kinds of transportation. This is just my speculation. Somebody knows more?

> at the Belgavia Cargo-apron

I guess Mr Veroughstraeten (the founder of Belgavia) may prefer you to address his company with "Aviapartner".  Wink/being sarcastic

> other freighters as Asiana, Saudia and Eva Air stand.

As Manni just mentioned, the OZ's 744 are always standing on the Sabena apron, while SV, BR and LD are on the Aviapartner side.


Regarding Air Hong Kong:

I believe that when Air Hong Kong started their operations at BRU (late eighties?), they initially made a contract with Sabena Cargo. I think SN was quite proud about obtaining this contract.
- So when did Air Hong Kong then entrust their cargo handling to Aviapartner instead of Sabena?
- Why did Sabena Cargo loose the LD contract?

On www.brusselsairport.be I noticed that during the upcoming summer season LD will reduce its flights BRU-HKG to 5 weekly instead of the current 7 + 2.

Is that a normal seasonal decrease of traffic? Can you say that cargo traffic is always higher in the winter season than in the summer season?

Or is this perhaps a first result of CX's cargo policy, since they gained greater control over LD? I'm afraid that CX may re-route LD's cargo to other airports, thus taking away business from BRU.

http://www.brusselsairport.be/cargo/cargotime_frame.cfm

Cargo flights from Brussels (BRU) to HONG KONG (HKG)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
LD004 ---4--- 08:40 05:55 74F 2810-2212
LD004 ---4--- 08:55 05:55 74F 1808-2610
LD004 ---4--- 08:55 05:55 74F 3103-2004
LD004 ------7 10:05 07:25 74F 2810-3003
LD004 ------7 11:15 08:15 74F 0707-2610
LD004 ------7 11:15 08:15 74F 3103-2704
LD002 1234567 16:15 13:40 74F 2810-3003
LD002 ------7 16:20 13:25 74F 2804-0607
LD002 ---4--- 16:20 13:25 74F 2104-1708
LD002 1-3-56- 16:20 13:25 74F 3103-2610

Cargo flights from HONG KONG (HKG) to Brussels (BRU)
Flightnumber Days Dep. Arr. Type Validity
LD003 --3---- 21:05 06:55 74F 1808-2610
LD003 --3---- 21:05 06:55 74F 3103-2004
LD003 -----6- 21:10 08:10 74F 2810-3003
LD003 --3---- 21:10 06:40 74F 2810-2212
LD003 -----6- 21:15 09:15 74F 0707-2610
LD003 -----6- 21:15 09:15 74F 3103-2704



 
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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Thu Mar 28, 2002 9:11 pm

Air HongKong initially had Aviapartner as their handler, then they switched to Sabena and about a year ago they switched back to Aviapartner.

Let's not forget to mention Korean Air Cargo, they are aswell handled by Sabena.
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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Mon Apr 01, 2002 6:52 pm

On sunday I observed a little bit the loading of the HYC 747 to JNB. There were the regular looking cargo palets, but I could also see how at least 7 big metal DHL containers were loaded through the nose cargo door. It's interesting to see how DHL's presence at BRU seems to attract and support other air operations. I am still wondering how HYC's flights to JNB fit in with the DHL express delivery concept. With just two flights a week, you can not exactly provide an "overnight delivery" service. HYC's 747 (reg. ZS-OOS) looks very clean. Is this the only plane in the HYC fleet or can we expect to see soon some of its brothers or sisters at BRU? By the way, is the crew of HYC black, white or mixed?

On Easter sunday day the whole DHL fleet had a day off. There were no operations because of the holiday on monday. This meant that about 30 DHL planes were sitting idle on the tarmac. I noticed 4 B727's, standing shoulder to shoulder, with a spanish registration. I guess DHL must have an impressive hotel bill each weekend, when dozens of foreign crew have to stay overnight at BRU. I guess they're not staying at the youth hostel.

Later in the evening a KE 744F arrived and parked next to the HYC 742 at the Sabena Cargo area. Unlike the HYC 742, the KE 744 has both a nose cargo door and a side cargo door. As far as I can observe, KE and OZ always seem to be using the side cargo doors at BRU. Is it more convenient for the handling to use the side cargo door, rather than the nose cargo door? For the first time at BRU, I noticed that before unloading the KE 744 the ground support had set up this special support pole under the right little wing of the tail, to prevent accidents similar to what happened to the KE MD11 at SYD or the CI 744F at TPE a few months ago.
 
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RE: Hydro Air Cargo At BRU

Mon Apr 01, 2002 7:15 pm

Very interesting observations Established02!
Very interesting to read!!  Smile

If you want to know more about Hydro Air Cargo, you can always ask it to Sven (his nick is EBOS here). He knows the crew of this aircraft, and he can give you more information about them.

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