Sonic
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Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Fri Mar 29, 2002 8:37 pm

...because of new sound regulations.
They will have to change their fleet almost totally. They used this fleet several years ago:
1 Boeing 737-500
1 Boeing 737-300
2 Boeing 737-200 Adv.
2 Yakovlev Yak-42
2 SAAB-2000
2 SAAB-340B
Air Lithuania (owned by Lithuanian Airlines) had:
1 ATR-42
4 Yak-40

Later they stopped lease of their 735 because it was the most expensive plane to lease and they didn't wanted 6 100-seat planes anymore. Then they used primary Yak-42 and 732 (all four planes of these types are not leased but owned by airline).
Now, when both types will be forbidden from EU airports, they are planning the following reforms:
1.Sell both Yak-42
2.Terminate lease of both SAAB-340B (one lease is already terminated)
3.Lease both (or only one) 737-200 adv. to other airlines and use them only in summer for charter flights (and maybe for flights to mid east)
4.Get (lease) a new 737-300 to fly to Europe instead of both 737-200 and Yak-42,
5.Lease a new SAAB-2000 to change both SAAB-340B planes, also, in some cases, to do flights previously operated with 732 or Yak-42
6.Move their owned company Air Lithuania from Kaunas to Palanga
7.Sell off all Air Lithuania's Yak-40s
8.Lease a new ATR-42 for Air Lithuania

So, their fleet should look so in near future:
2 Boeing 737-300
3 SAAB 2000
2 ATR-42 (Air Lithuania)
 
IL76
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Fri Mar 29, 2002 8:46 pm

Are Yak42's stage II?? I don't think so. They're not exactly quiet, but technically stage III. A rule for stage III is for an engine to have a fan/core airflow ratio > 2:1. BTW, the engines on a 154M and il76 (DU30/DK30 what are they called again?) have 2.1:1 or something, so they're not rated as stage II. But they're noisy as hell!! Anyways... So we'll still see the il76's and tu154M's coming in Europe for a while.

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Sonic
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Fri Mar 29, 2002 9:25 pm

I don't know for Yak-42... When I read that LAL wants to get rid of them in the same article about the 732 problems, I thought Yak-42 also has stage II.

Actually it might be so that LAL just wants to get rid of Russian planes. They said they got rid of them back in 1994, but they didn't. So, maybe now they will sell them off really.
 
IL76
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Fri Mar 29, 2002 10:22 pm

Which is a shame... I quite like the look of the Yak's.
 
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Sat Mar 30, 2002 8:07 am

Yes they are lovely, LAL's were particularly pretty in that scheme.
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slawko
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Sat Mar 30, 2002 8:32 am

Lithuanian is not the only non-russian airline that may have some fleet issues...both Ukraine International and Aerosvit have a number of 732's in their fleets which are now banned...As far as I know these two airlines have taken advantage of low lease rates and taken up a few 737-500's to facilitate the 732's departure from the fleet...Ithink UIA is up to 3 737-500's and Aerosvit has 2 or 3 as well...the remaining 732's will be used on non-EU flights...I would imagine that Lithuanian will be looking for a similar option for their fleet renewal...there are lots of those avaliable at very low prices right now..
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Sonic
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Sat Mar 30, 2002 9:33 am

Yak42 -- they weren't flying in that scheme for a pretty long time. However, they weren't repainted to tricolor also like Boeings or SAABs were. They used this scheme nowadays:

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And Slawko yes, they said now it costs just 50% of normal price to lease a 733...
 
trintocan
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Sat Mar 30, 2002 9:42 am

The Yak-42 is Stage III compliant as far as I know. Perhaps Lithuanian is using the present buyer's market to do a total overhaul of its fleet.

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slawko
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Sat Mar 30, 2002 11:39 am

Actually this noise ban comes at a great time for airlines because they can afford to overhaul a large part of their fleet at relatively low costs.....With all the extra planes sitting around Im sure the leasing companies of the world are circling around these airlines trying to get their business...I would not be surprised if Lithuanian announced the lease or purchase of a few 737-500's or 300's...It would save them tonnes of money in terms of a standard fleet, and only one type of crew training....
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RE: Lithuanian Airlines Will Have Some Plane Shortage

Fri Apr 12, 2002 4:40 pm

I remember that they wanted to standarize their regional fleet around a single type, prefered option was a type with a turboprop and a jet derivate which greatly limits the number of suitable planes. Anything about this option? Is it still current or has it been "replaced" by additional Saabs?

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