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AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 6:45 am

Kind of a follow up question to whether 777's will be visiting STL on a regular basis. Anyone out there know of any plans to get STL up to AA standards for international operations? If so, which city pairings?

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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:25 am

IMHO its too close to ORD, where AA has a huge hub.
 
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:27 am

LGW-STL is mainly transfer traffic?
 
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 7:50 am

My sources say STL will be lucky to have any AA international service after the summer. Even if St. Louis as a city is showinig decent business for routes to London, AA would rather route these pax through ORD or DFW.

AA sees STL as a purely domestic hub, which BTW includes possibly moving domestic connection banks from both ORD and DFW to STL.

Another possibility I've heard, and I don't want to alarm you, is this...Reducing STL signficantly and using the extra TWA capacity to increase the presence at completely new or current focus cities, e.g. RDU.

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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 8:24 am

The whole idea of AA buying TWA was to gain another major east/west hub to ease crowding at ORD and DFW and to allow for additional expansion. AA was thinking domestic and not international with regard to St. Louis.

Will AA add more international services out of STL? I dont think its very likely since, as stated above, AA is committed to ORD as a transatlantic gateway and DFW is nearby for any future transpacific flights......a good question is whether the STL-LGW flight has a long-term future?
 
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 8:30 am

although it is likely that aa will not use stl as a international gateway, that doesnt mean stl will never see the 777. stl still could possibly see the 777 domestically to dfw or lax.
 
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 9:55 am

Whether AA intends for STL to have a sizeable intl hub in the future, there is still a sizeable enough market for STL-LGW/CDG nonstops, particularly in the summer. It's reasonable that these could be retained even if STL is considered a 'domestic' hub by AA.

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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sat Mar 30, 2002 10:47 am

Does anyone know if TW's STL-NRT traffic rights have expired?
On another note: LGW has a future, CDG is probably dead. Would like to see them expand to Mexico, TW
had a few flights and with AA's marketing strength,
Mexico could be a profitable market. STL has one of
the fastest growing Latino populations in the country.
Wouldn't mind seeing a couple of oneworld carriers here either...IB? BA (not holding my breath)?
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sun Mar 31, 2002 3:37 am

According to the AAdvantage newsletter, STL-YVR is being planned to start in the next few months.

All in all though, I agree with most of the above. LGW will probably stay, but I think the biggest aircraft in masses will be the 757.

I think STL's international flights will be into Mexico and Canada with probably the daily LGW flight. I do however think that some of DFW and ORD's domestic flights will be transferred to STL.

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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sun Mar 31, 2002 4:16 am

Thanks for the info guys.
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sun Mar 31, 2002 5:55 am

Well said dutchjet...

With the construction of the int'l terminal at DFW and AA's super terminal at JFK, I doubt they'll allow for significant int'l traffic at STL.
 
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sun Mar 31, 2002 6:20 am

AATripleseven:

Also, don't forget about the HUGE ORD expansion program that's in the works.
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RE: AA's International Intentions @ STL

Sun Mar 31, 2002 7:03 am

I wonder about AA's intentions at STL.There are scores of intl flights from MIA,DFW,and ORD but I personally do not see STL as a intl hub.It all comes down to O&D.

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