wirraway
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Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 8:21 pm

VIRGIN Blue is looking at leasing some of
Ansett's A320 jets as part of a $4 billion
overhaul of its fleet to meet aggressive
expansion plans, including international flights.

full story here

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49146
 
wirraway
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 8:35 pm

Sorry I can not post full story as the owner of this
site has emailed me not to repost news articles
from news sources.

Wirraway
 
wirraway
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:02 pm

Again I apologise for not posting the link to the
story properly. This should work now.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49146

Wirraway
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:15 pm

This is very interesting news, I love the A320 series it is my favourtie narrowbody.

Could this possibly mean SQ is pulling some strings within VB with the eventual move to a full service carrier?

Does this then open the way for Branson to start another low cost airline in Australia?
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:32 pm

MEA

What we are watching now is the lull before the Virgin
Blue storm, we only have to wait a 10 days for the
decision on whether it's the 737 or the A320, also
expect a result on the former Ansett terminals, as
to a full service airline on the main trunks, watch this
space, IMHO SQ is about to make it's move.

Wirraway
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:45 pm

It's a shame they couldn't agree to merge with Ansett as a full service airline & maintain VB as a separate low cost carrier to compete domestically and now perhaps with Australian on "leisure" routes.

Hopefully, these changes will also bring about a new classier livery.
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 9:54 pm

Wirraway,

I thought the decision had been made on the 737's?

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/783704/

Rmm

 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Thu Apr 04, 2002 10:13 pm

Rmm

I think ABC might have misquoted Huttner as it was not reported anywhere else, my gut feeling however is that
DJ will order up to 20-25 Boeing's.

Wirraway
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Fri Apr 05, 2002 12:17 am

They just ordered 15 new NG's from Boeing for 1.2B.
So, I'm confused.
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Fri Apr 05, 2002 1:33 am

Wirraway,

Had a look at your pprune posting when I got home, still can't access it from the AN network.
I don't see how DJ can immediately lease 10 A320's.
Most of the SALE A320's are up for checks except HYC. The rest are currently missing engines, apu's and components. When time permits we are trying to match original components to the aircraft as they were delivered.
Coupled to this is the fact that 2 major checks are currently being carried out on HYL (AWAS) and HYX (GATX) This ties most if not all manpower up.
The next 2 checks at this stage are HYS and CZN 733, both owned by a mob called Region air.
It really doesn't leave much to pick from when you take into account the aircraft that have left the country - HYA, HYB, HYR, HYT, & HYY. HYL is set for a desert vacation and HYX is off to Air Malta.
But then again maybe the journo is right. In 10 days the hanger may have to revert to full 24 hour operations again.

Rmm
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Fri Apr 05, 2002 3:01 am

Rmm
I still find it hard to believe that they will ditch the
737 for the A320, but if they need this many aircraft
that quick, maybe they have no alternative.

"Boeing is fighting to retain Virgin Blue's
business but has problems with availability of
aircraft after winning large orders from Qantas
and Ireland's Ryanair for up to 225 Boeing
737s."

"The Seattle manufacturer decreased production of the 737 from 28 a month to 14 after last year's terrorist attacks, which has put pressure on delivery positions."


The Question is, why can't Boeing ramp up the production if they have got this many orders, crazy!

Wirraway
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Fri Apr 05, 2002 10:20 am

Guys,

Perhaps Lang is twisting Huttners arm on the A320's as they are better than the 73's with regards to freight operations. Don't forget that AN has a huge amount of freight handling equipment and containers for the A320.

Well it could be great news for the A320 drivers!!

Let's hope we get to keep the A320 in Australian skies.

And Wirraway, I agree, SQ should be showing it's hand very soon.

Cheers,

mb
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Fri Apr 05, 2002 11:11 am

Wirraway,

I agree with you on the fleet change. It would have to be an incredible deal offered by Airbus. One thing that would fall into place though is maintenance. AN has a fully tooled up A320 facility. There is not much locally for the 737NG. I have heard that Jetcare will not renew there maintenance contract with DJ as well. It's up for grabs in September with a 6 month change over period.

Mx5,

Although the A320's will fit more in cargo wise they are still not containerised.

As for SQ showing it's hand, I'm still hearing July.

Rmm
 
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RE: Virgn May Lease 10 Ansett A320s

Fri Apr 05, 2002 11:34 am

Rmm

Like Mx5 I thought the A320 handled containers as
well, thanks for the input, never too old to learn.

I put a poll up at PPrune, "Your Gut Feeling What Aircraft
DJ will go for", so far looks like about 75% think it will
be Boeing, Richard Branson is due in Australia next
week, so I guess he will make the announcement who
has won.

Wirraway

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