desert_dweller
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Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:46 am

Hello Guys,
I was just wondering, which major airline has the best safety records?

- Sincerely,
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ryanb741
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:48 am

QF in terms of fatalities and also years in service, however as they operate relatively few flights compared to the major carriers this needs to be taken in consideration.

Before they screwed up at Taipei, SQ had an excellent record.
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 2:02 am

Oh, and welcome to airliners.net Desert_Dweller.  Smile
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 2:04 am

Thanks Ryanb741, im glad u noticed my 1st post  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
Arsenal@LHR
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 2:30 am

All the major airlines around the airline all have excellent safety record if u judge them by the statistics. To name a few (AA,LH,AF,BA,UA,VS,SQ,CX,CO,DL,QF etc.)

Sometimes accidents occur due to pilot error, weather, terrorism etc, that are out of the airlines control, so take that into consideration. But you should have no worries about flying any of the airlines i've mentioned or any other major airline.

Personnally, i feel safer flying on British Airways than any other airline, dunno why.

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 4:47 am

I think we are tempting fate here. I will therefore refrain from mentioning any airlines.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 6:02 am

It's not really tempting fate. Even if anyone of the airlines i've mentioned has an accident, it doesn't make them an unsafe airline. Every plane is unsafe unless it's maintained properly, so you have to look at the airlines and their maintenance records and procedures.

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 8:51 am

For some reason, I feel deeply safe when I'm flying Southwest.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 8:56 am

Aer Lingus has an incredible safety record. I don't think they even have a major accident in their record. Like I said, I'm not positive about that, but I think so. Besides, it is the National Airline of Ireland, what more can you ask for? Gotta love it!
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:06 am

I think that overall Air Canada is considered the safest, given their large network and few accidents - they have not had a fatal accident since 1983. Qantas and BWIA have been accident-free for longer but, especially in the case of BW, there is the smaller network factor to contend with. BWIA has in fact never had a passenger fatality.

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desert_dweller
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:12 am

Thanks for the help guys.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:20 am

Luxair has also never had a passenger fatality in it's history but the topic is rather discussing about MAJOR airlines .

Condor and LTU come into my mind,unless they are not considered a major airline ,I 've never heard of an accident involving one of the 2 holiday carriers,correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:29 am

Nor has Emirates, Virgin, Easyjet and the like.

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 9:42 am

As for airliner safety in the US, expect that all carriers are going to be just about the same, regardless of size. Maintenance facilities are strictly controlled, and after ValuJet, even the low-cost/low-fares are heavily scrutinized and safe (judging by the FAA presence at the low-cost/low-fare I work at, I'd say more so than the majors).

As for airlines outside the United States, it would be better to look at national records, since each nation is responsible for its own safety standards and keeping airlines in line with those standards. Personally, I'd never have flown Swissair, and I will never fly Aeroflop. I just wouldn't feel safe.

Still, flying has been and will continue to be the safest way to travel. Well, okay. Monorails have a slightly better record, but they're just different!  Big grin
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 10:26 am

Lithuanian Airlines is around for 11 years, yet they had no fatality or written off airliner.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Sat Apr 06, 2002 11:16 am

Go Malaysia Airlines!!!
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 3:34 am

A long long timae ago an Aer Lingus Viscount crashed in the Irish Sea.

 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 3:38 am

Hawaiian Air and Tunis Air had no accidents since they are around.

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 5:28 am

Air canada has an outstanding safety record too.

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 5:39 am

These are always interesting threads, with the obligatory (and specious) "Rain Man" reference to Qantas, and extensive "politicking" on behalf of each user's favorite carrier.

"Safe" can be measured in so many ways. But, if you accept the premise (generally accepted among those whose business is the safety of aircraft) that each flight cycle represents an approximately equal chance of an incident, then it is difficult to place any carrier above Southwest, whose record for safety stands paramount and whose numbers of ops is huge.

They have written off one aircraft- the Burbank long-landing plane- although if they had applied QF's standards (no write-off, regardless of cost to repair) it could still be flying.

As some above have mentioned, any certificated air carrier in a first-world country is likely pretty darned safe.

But you cannot ever establish which is the "safest," without attaching all manner of caveats to the term.
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 6:27 am

what about the airline EL AL??
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:20 am

EL AL had a 747 going down/into (if i remember it right, it lost (as in separeted from the wing) 2 engines before it went down?) a appartment building in Amsterdam a couple of years back. I could be wrong though.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:26 am

EL AL lost a 747 freighter when it sliced through an apartment building in Amsterdam. Can't think of any other EL AL incidents though.

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:28 am

Elwood64151: ...and I will never fly Aeroflop. I just wouldn't feel safe.

Did you mean Aeroflot?

You want to back up that statement with facts? With the size of fleet and number of flights, the USSR Aeroflot wasn't any more dangerous than any Western airline. In fact, it has a better record than some major US airlines.

The new, Russian, Aeroflot is a different story altogether - one of the safest by record in the world.

So, it;s about time people like you dropped the childish and silly "I hate anything Russian" Cold War style attitude.
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:36 am

Statistically, All Nippon Airways has among the lowest, if not the lowest, accident rate out of major Asian airlines.
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:37 am

We could go on and on about which airlines have good and bad safety records.

But to put it simply, every major airline (and the small ones) all have excellent safety records and high standards of maintenance procedures. Every airline is monitored and closely scrutined if their maintenance procedures become lax or poor by the FAA/CAA. Any airline that continues to violate rules regarding safety and engineering will subsequently be fined, and if it continues then severe action will be taken and ultimately the FAA has the power to ground an airline completely if it's violating safety standards.

Hope this clears a few things up

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:38 am

United hasn't lost an airplane since 1991 (flight 585 in COS), and the last accident that could have been prevented by United was the DC-8 that went down in PDX in 1978, 24 years ago.

Notice I am not counting September 11. We all know United lost two airplanes that horrible day.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 8:43 am

On sep 11, UA/AA were the victims, they did nothing wrong.

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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 9:43 am

As for as some survey results came out last year these were the 3 "safest" airlines to fly.

1. Air Canada
2. Ansett Australia
3. Qantas

This has obviously changed over the last year though.
 
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RE: Airline With The Best Safety Records...

Mon Apr 08, 2002 10:50 am

Northwest has a great safety record!

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