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Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:03 pm

Hopefully, people will check here before posting anything about this web site ever again.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm

Ignore the following keywords. They are for forum searches. (Yes, I am an optimistic.):
Pentagon, Flight 77, flt. 77, sept. 11, september 11th., wtc, World Trade Center, http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm, american, conspiracy theory, government, cover up.
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:05 pm

Sorry. Now it's just a click. (Couldn't be any easier.):

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:09 pm

he does make some good points but since I am not an expert I will not just say yes or no.
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:19 pm

I do have to agree. What happened to the plane and why is there so little damage to the building ??
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:37 pm

We never landed on the moon either guys.

Fox TV said so!


Cheers

p.s. it's URBANLEGANDS.com

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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:41 pm

This just proves one thing.....A fool can ask more questions in a minute than a wise man can answer in a lifetime.

Pete
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:42 pm

Hkgspotter1,

I'm very surprised at you with that statement. I didn't think you would be that gulable. Check out the urban legends site mentioned above. The facts make much more sense than the bullshit.

I'm not a real aeronautical engineer, I just play one on Airliners.net.
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 1:54 pm

I like the Carl Sagan quote:

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."

If you've never read his book The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark I highly suggest it. It is in this book he introduces his "Baloney-Detector."
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 4:54 pm

There has already been a post about this exact same website..I think it was a few weeks back. A huge load of bull if you ask me.
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 6:45 pm

Okay, some people aren't getting the jist of my starting this thread.

The url I posted above (http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blflight77.htm) debunks and disproves the ridiculous "Find the Boeing" web site in hopes of laying the (dead horse) issue to rest. Hence the "R.I.P." in the title. Yes indeed, many, many people posted comments about this consipracy web site. It was becoming a running joke to regulars here in the Civil Aviation forum. I frequent the Urban Legends section of About.com's website regularly. It's a great resource. When I saw the aforementioned url, I figured posting the link here would be helpful.

Is that clearer?

ER
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 6:47 pm

this has been posted before, infact I did it not long after the vid camera showing the explosin was released from the camera near the pentagon
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 7:10 pm

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Oy vey.  Sad

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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 10:45 pm

Keep pluggin' away ExitRow, someone will get it...

...eventually.
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 10:52 pm



What's that there in the foreground? Looks like the remains of an aircraft to me.

R.I.P. to all the victims of that flight. I'm willing to bet that if a relative of the conspiracy theorist was on that flight...THAT web page would probably be honouring the victims.
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 11:11 pm

are their any photo's or video's of a plane aproaching and hitting the building?

after the twin towers crash their where many amateur video's..
you should think a very touristic building like the pentagon would have 1 or 2 people with a camera near by..

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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sat Apr 06, 2002 11:15 pm

What's another word for thesaurus?
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 12:29 am

I'm not saying it never happened but even in that video you do not see the plane.
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 1:14 am

That Urban Legends is a fine site, doing a great job debunking crap.
Part of the problem today is that mass communication technology makes people expect, no demand, they see absolute proof of everything, never mind a majority would be unsure in many cases of what they are looking at.
Hey, there's no definite film of the Titanic going down, must be a hoax then if you extend the conspriracy nut's logic.
The Pentagon was designed to withstand heavy bombing, which when it was constructed was thought to be inevitable in any war, even in the US.
One of the passengers on the aircraft was Barbara Olsen, a journalist and TV colunmist for CNN, if it's all a big hoax where has she been since Sept. 11th?
As well as all the other passengers and crew?
Remember, you only saw the first aircraft actually hitting the WTC because it was caught by chance by a French team making a film about the NYFD, who were checking for a gas leak when the aircraft roared overhead.
By the time the second aircraft hit, the media were already out in force, as well as people with their camcorders, and camermen from emergency teams.
But the best filter for conspiracy theories is your own common-sense, and being objective.
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 1:33 am

Everyone has their own opinions, so you cannot lambast someone for believing in conspiracy theories.

As far as i'm concerned, i've didn't believe in the pentagon stuff from day one, never will unless someone gives me concrete proof.

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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 2:04 am

Remember, nearly every conspiracy theory is started by those with a particular axe to grind.
For instance, those in the Arab world who hate the US really do think that Israel carried the Sept.11th attacks, Jews who worked at WTC were apparently all told to take the day off.
Problem is, it aint true, hundreds of Jewish people died in the WTC, it doesn't even withstand the most basic scruntiny.
But many of these sort of theories come form the Neo-Nazi Tim McVeigh fanclub in the US.
Care to align yourself with them? Taking any of this stuff seriously means you are, even if only indirectly.
No footage of UA93 either, and isn't that a rather small hole for a 757 to make in the ground?
Of course it isn't.
I challenge anyone who believes the frankly offensive nonsense about the Sept.11th aircraft to answer the points in my previous post on this thread.
You can lambast adults for beliving this stuff, just as much as you can for them still believing in Father Christmas.
Pretty much the same level.


 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 3:52 am

We never landed on the moon either guys.

Fox TV said so!


BlatantEcho you bring up an interesting subject. That Fox special almost made me cry. I can't even imagine how someone would want to question this. This was a proud accompishment for all of mankind by getting to the moon. The astronauts brought back moon rocks. It Apollo 13 fake too? Yeah right. The people who think that we didn't go to the moon have some problems, just like the same people who don't think that flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon.

Let's take a look at some facts. American flight 77 took off and was hijacked. Then it crashed into the Pentagon, plain and simple. If it didn't crash into the Pentagon then where is the plane now? The plane is unaccounted for and it is gone. It's history.

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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 4:06 am

National keep in mind the golden rule of media:

"You don't make money on stuff no one talks about."
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 4:20 am

Dripstick, I almost really did bash my head in the computer last night...

My concern with conspiracy theories has less to do with the outlandishness of their claims and more with the gullibility and lack of incredulity of those that give them credence. With the advent of e-mail, I've been flabbergasted by how many of my friends fall for the chain letters and hoaxes that propagate. That ridiculous "Tourist Guy" photo was the kicker. If anyone thought that was real, they should not leave the house.

I really like About.com's site and have it bookmarked. I check it whenever I get an e-mail I am skeptical about. I wish everyone would.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion. My hope is not to silence anyone. But, instead, to raise the level of awareness and healthy suspicion that I see deteriorating in our sensational, ratings driven news culture.

That's all.

ER

BTW: Another website I like is James Randi's. He has somehow made a career of debunking claims of the paranormal. I especially like his "Million Dollar Challenge." (http://www.randi.org.)
 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 4:46 am

 
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RE: Hunt The Boeing: R.I.P.

Sun Apr 07, 2002 5:37 am

You mean this...



was a HOAX too!!!

No way!!!
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