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US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 9:46 am

Remember when cities like Worcester and New Haven had daily 737's?

Remember when the majors "connected the dots" between smaller cities (EA flights from BOS-PVD-BDL-EWR) on 727's and DC-9's?

I suppose those days are long gone!
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 9:55 am

MRY had 2 daily UAL jet flights: 727/757
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 10:06 am

ERI used to have daily US Airways F-100's. Now they only receive US Airways Express Dash 8's.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 10:16 am

UA used to fly into ILG(Wilmington, DE) with 737s to ORD. That's been discontinued, and now Deleware is the only state in the US without scheduled commercial air service.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 10:43 am

Charleston, WV (CRW) at one time had US Airways flights to both PIT and CLT; now all is Express

 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 10:45 am

LNK Lincoln Nebraska used to get UAL A320 757 727 737 B146 service from DEN and ORD....Overnight it was dropped to D328!!!

BFF Scottsbluff Nebraska also used to see Frontier 737's (back before I was even alive) to DEN (about 200 miles).
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 12:07 pm

In my neck of the woods, It would be Yuma and Grand Canyon, both served with Hughes AirWest DC-9s.

I also remember RW DC-9s serving Klamath Falls, OR.
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Ser

Wed Apr 10, 2002 12:08 pm

If they are not already on the list...Elmira and Ithaca, NY will be shortly.

others...
Laredo, TX (although MX will be starting soon)
Hobbs, NM
Roswell, NM
Beaumont, TX
Ft. Smith, AR
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 12:24 pm

Here's three more cities that have lost mainline in the past few years:

Monroe, LA (DL pulled mainline service a few days ago)
Montgomery, AL
Augusta,GA (DL only brings in mainline for the Masters)
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 1:14 pm

Just comair left at Melbourne, FL
Spirit is gone,
Last year we even had 757s flying in MLB.
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 1:23 pm

TOL will only have CRJ 700s as the biggest airplane that will fly regularly scheduled airplanes when AirTran pulls out in 2 weeks. The funny thing is...we haven't seen any jump in the amount of flights to TOL to replace these mainliners....airport just sux I guess.

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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 1:26 pm

As JonPaulGeoRngo said...ELM and ITH had US Airways F-100 serve to PIT. BGM is the same way. Now ELM and BGM have ERJs serving the route (with some Dash-8s in there also) and ITH just gets Dash-8s and D328s.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 1:40 pm

Eastern flew to Key West with DC-9s and 727-100s, aswell as US Air who flew F-28s to Key West.

What about Trenton, US Air used to fly DC-9s to PIT and EastWind flew to Florida and Greensboro.
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 1:55 pm

OAJ

USAir served with F-28s
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 2:44 pm

Stockton, California (SCK) used to get Continental 737's from Denver, now has NO Commerical service at all, including props!

 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 3:03 pm

I remember when HVN had United 737's about 3 times a day into Tweeds small runway... It was great to have 2 mainline cities in a small state like Connecticut. I could see US or UA bring RJ's into HVN once the runway is extended, but I doubt minline will ever come back. Airports like BDL and HPN are just too close.... I think ORH could get some mainline Delta or AA however, that isnt out of the question.
 
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Wed Apr 10, 2002 3:18 pm

DFord...

For ITH, not sure about 328, but definately B1900 from Air Midwest.

tnnh
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 3:32 pm

Melbourne, FL still has 4 mainline Delta Md-88's a day to ATL, the Comair flight to CVG is only operated on Sat. There are also 4 ASA flights a day to ATL. Mainline is not going anywhere in MLB. Since it survived 9/11 cuts, it will most likely stay. Loads are usually very heavy. Continental pulled its flights from both MLB and DAB, but they are coming back soon, if they are not already back (there was a press release a few months back announcing the return). A few years ago there were rumors of mainline leaving either DAB or MLB, but they were then reduced and ASA was added to suppliment the existing service. It is too bad that their is not more service from these airports because they are small, no long lines, and very convenient.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 8:30 pm

Delta flew to Beaumont/Port Arthur;Presque Isle/Caribou/Brunswick/Paducha/Meridian/and Alexandria up to 1979.

Eastern had jets at Key West in 1984, Piedmont had 727s flying from Kinston to Washington National in 79, Braniff flew jets out of Fort Smith, Ar until 79, and Jamestown, North Dakota had Northwest 727s until 79.
1979 was not a good year for small communities.

Columbia, SC has been reduced to Delta MD80s to ATL. In 1977 Delta flew 2 L-1011 flights from ATL to CAE. US Airways pulled its jets, American stopped Jets and Eagle in 94' Air South collapsed in 97' United ended jets in the 90's so the remaining service is regional jets.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Wed Apr 10, 2002 9:35 pm

Roanoke, VA. Before Sept. 11, there were multiple DC-9, 737, MD-80 and F100 flights to PIT and CLT. Now all ERJs
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 12:00 am

I am surprised at the fact that ORH has jets yet HVN doe not. ORH is actually a bit closer to BDL then HVN and also has BOS within a close driving distance. Oh well, I bet we will see RJs into HVN once the runway is extended, IF the runway is extended.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 12:07 am

Salem, OR
Redmond-Bend
Pendleton, OR
K. Falls OR
Visalia, CA
Bellingham, WA
Lewiston, ID
Twin Falls, ID
Pocatello, ID
Elko, NV
Ely, NV
Redding, CA
Eureka, CA
Stockton (Though AM WEST EXPRESS IS THERE NOW)
Modesto
Merced, CA
Pueblo, CO
Cheyenne
Casper
Concord, CA
Yakima
 
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Thu Apr 11, 2002 12:09 am

Roanoke, VA

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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 12:56 am

tnnh...

You are correct, I thought ITH had 328s fly in there. They are now just served with ERJ, Dash-8 and B1900

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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 2:08 am

FWA - Fort Wayne Int'l is hanging on by a thread with a couple NWA DC-9s. Otherwise its ARJs, ERJs, and CRJs including the CRJ-700 for and ATL flight.
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 2:27 am

Actually, CO mainline has not come back to MLB or DAB. The only thing brought back was some B1900's flown by Gulfstream with the CO codeshare...they go to TPA where you can connect with CO mainline.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 3:36 am

Evansville, IN
Chattanooga, TN
Macon, GA
Durango, CO
Santa Barbara, CA
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 4:53 am

"ORH is actually a bit closer to BDL then HVN "


BDL is not closer to ORH than HVN.....

New Haven is a quick 35-45 minute ride down I-91 depending on how you drive and the traffic.

Worchester can be anywhere from 45-90 minutes, once again with traffic and how you drive

BOS is indeed the closest airport to ORH, but Massport, who overlooks BOS and ORH has been for years trying to market ORH into a alternate to BOS.

However, they have not succeeded well, ORH needs a new access road, the terminal is new and nice.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Ser

Thu Apr 11, 2002 6:00 am

And at ORH, we still have daily 727s from Pan Am to Allentown, PA and Portsmouth, ME. The rest of the flights are Delta CRJ to ATL, American ERJ-140/145 to ORD, and US Airways Dash 8-100 to PHL.

At Melbourne, FL, don't forget that Delta still serves there a few times daily with MD-88s to ATL.

I can't wait until the HVN is extended. I wonder if we'll see UA, AA, and DL service to ORD and ATL respectively.

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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 6:15 am

South Bend/Michiana Regional Airport (SBN), has seen dramatic drop in mainline service over the last few years. I wonder if it'll see the very little mainline jet service drop over the next few years. Usually the planes on final to SBN fly over the Notre Dame campus (right over my dorm in fact). My freshman year I can remember seeing regular visits of Delta MD-88s and 737s and USAirways F100s...if I remember correctly, with a bunch of Northwest DC-9s. Now, there are just Comair CRJ's, USAirway Express ERJs, United Express props w/ some Avro 146's, and occasional Northwest DC-9s, with more and more 146's or saabs replacing them. American Eagle used to serve SBN, but pulled out completely about a year ago. I wonder what'll happen at SBN once NW finally replaces its DC-9s.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 8:00 am

PIA at various times had OZ to STL ORD CMI MLI MSP DTW ATL DEN IAD LGA and other Midwestern cities. RC flew to MSP DTW and TWA flew to STL ORD. CO flew to ORD MCI LAX OMA DEN IND IAH at various times before pulling out altogether after their first bankruptcy. Also had UA to MLI DEN but that has been replaced by Avro's.
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 8:12 am

MSL: Muscle Shoals used to have Southern Airlines DC-9 ervice to HSV and ATL (the Southern crash outside of ATL in the late 70s originated in MSL.) MSL is now served by NW Airlink's Saabs to MEM.

CNM: Carlsbad, NM used to have TI, Texas Intrenational, service to...HOB, Hobbs, and continuing to ?DFW?. Now it has Mesa to ABQ on Beach 1900's, I think.

BRO: Brownsville, Texas used to have Braniff 727 service to IAH, now it has CO Express ATRs to IAH.

Can't believe Delta used to fly mainline to BPT, Beaumont/Pt. Arthur.

It used to be airlines would advertise in the late 1960s and early 1970s when they had all jet service everywhere in their route systems. Then, they woke up and found that jets aren't right for these cities named above...the good thing is we're moving back around to small RJ's.

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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 10:54 am

I remember when DL pulled out of MGM a couple of years ago. They were reeling, then being known as the largest city in the US without mainline service. (With all of the shakeups lately, I'm not sure if that is the case.)

HSV is close to being on that list, although I don't think we ever will be. We had 17 mainline between DL, AA, and US in 1999, now down to 7 between AA and DL. But that is the national trend.

DCU (Decatur, Alabama) used to be served by Southern Airways until 1967 when HSV opened at its present site. IT's last flight was to MSL, in fact. I'm not completely sure, though, that these were run with jets, so it may not completely fit into this thread. (I don't know if Southern even had jets way back yonder...)

Rogue TRader is correct in saying that the Southern Airways flight number 242 originated at MSL, but that leg of the flight departed HSV. It remains the only fatal commercial crash from HSV at its present location.

http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi_bin/view_details.cgi?date=04041977&airline=Southern+Airways

Anyone have anymore info on the DCU flights?

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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 9:36 pm

Since when has Fort Wayne had Northwest mainline? The last time I looked on their website it was all Mesaba.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Thu Apr 11, 2002 11:22 pm

EVV used to have US 733s from IND and PIT, and maybe at one time even DCA. I don't even know if EVV is served by Chautauqua from IND. The two Indiana cities are inconveniently connected by a two-lane highway, and the trip takes nearly three hours. At one time there was also a DL flight from IND to FWA, but I don't know the equipment.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Fri Apr 12, 2002 12:04 am

In Canada there are a ton of cities like this.

Here's a few of them that I can think of off the top of my head:

Goose Bay
Sydney
Stephenville
Val D'or
Rouyn
Bagotville
La Grande
North Bay
Timmins
Brandon (except for brief periods with WJ)
Flin Flon
The Pas
Cranbrook
Kamploops
Smithers - I think has AC regional F28s.
Sandspit (I think)
Prince Rupert & Terrace - have jet svc by AC Jazz though.


This list used to be a lot longer but some cities have recently or will shortly get mainline service back after a +10 year absence because of the expansion of WestJet and Tango.
These include:
Windsor
London
Sudbury
Sault Ste. Marie
Gander
Deer Lake
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Fri Apr 12, 2002 2:12 am

Jetskipper, FWA has had NWA mainline on & off for a very long time. NWA seems to change the equipment more than any other and for brief periods they will swap two DC9s for AVROs, but it seems to return to DC9's months later. Check any given month on the schedule, then check two months later. Usually, one will have mainline, and one won't.

Pll-lot, Delta flew MD80s out of FWA to CVG and ATL. Some of the ATL flights were routed to or from TOL (can't remember which). Also, I can't recall the IND-FWA DL flights, but I'm curious about that. I know USX had a couple flights WAAY back in the old days, but unlike EVV, its FWA-IND is an easy drive down the interstate.
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Fri Apr 12, 2002 2:33 am

Lynchburg - Charlotte

737 on Piedmont

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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Fri Apr 12, 2002 1:20 pm

Texas International used to have many DC-9 flights from Santa Fe. The shotest being ABQ-SAF. That is the only airline with non RJ jet service to SAF. At the time there was no distinction between mainline and express/commuter as were many others listed above. It was either jet service or drive yourself road service. Also getting honorable mention are Wichita Falls, Abilene, San Angelo, Lawton and many more I could list that are today without non RJ/mainline service. If you live in the US and you want jet flights from your city I can only suggest you move to a city that now has jets as where you are now is not very likely to get them in the near future.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Fri Apr 12, 2002 2:14 pm

SWF - Newburgh, NY.

Stewart used to have mainline DL, AA, and US, at the least. Now there are only props.
The city folk couldn't be drawn away from their city airports, I guess.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:02 pm

Winston Salem, NC (INT) had three Piedmont B727 R.O.N. at one time. When CCAIR (US Airways Express) pulled out Jetstream 32 service a couple of years ago, they lost all scheduled commerical service.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Fri Apr 12, 2002 6:52 pm

Hey 1000moh... don't you guys still get the American F-100s from ORD?

The MLU downgrades, which FlyPNS1 mentioned, are particularly disheartening because Monroe, in Ouachita Parish, Lousiana, is the birthplace of Delta Air Lines. Monroe was never really capable of supporting mainline service in a deregulated industry, but Delta kept flying there for sentimental reasons. When Hank Biedenharn retired from the Board of Directors in 1996, leaving Delta without a Biedenharn family member on the Board for the first time in the company's existence, it was only a matter of time.

Hopefully nobody at Delta will forget where it all started. Our headquarters may be in Atlanta, but our roots are in Monroe.
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Sat Apr 13, 2002 12:02 am

SWF actually still has 3 AA mainline flights to ORD.
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Sat Apr 13, 2002 4:37 am

YNG used to have UAL B727s...
 
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RE: US Cities That No Longer Have Mainline Jet Service

Sun Apr 14, 2002 4:34 am

I believe Bakersfield, CA at one point had American 757s flying in as a continuation of DFW-SNA, back in the early-90's.

I remember going to Evansville, IN in 1981 and I flew in on a Delta DC9-30 from Atlanta. When I arrived, I also remember seeing a USAir DC9-30 and an Eastern DC9-50 on the ground. On my departure trip, I remember seeing a Delta 727-200 that was going to Chicago.

Grand Junction, CO is also another airport that once had America West 737s, Continental DC9s and Frontier 737s on the ground at the same time in the mid-80's.

Chattanooga, TN used to see American M80s, Delta M88s, 732s; USAir DC9s, F-100s, 733s, 734s. And now they are just RJs,
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