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SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 4:07 pm

(not an article)

The Singapore Government has announced that Mas Selamat Kastari, the Jemaah Islamiyah leader on the run from Singapore was planning to hijack a British or a Singapore Airlines aircraft and crash it into Singapore's award winning Changi airport.

Mas Selamat said his aim was to stop the US attack on Afghanistan but the leader has fled to Thailand as previously reported in other threads.

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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 4:46 pm

Hmm, now that won't happen, with heightened security. Why on earth would they want to hijack a BA 747-400?

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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 4:46 pm

Hmm... how could an attack on WSSS stop anything happening in AFGHANISTAN...

Sigh, looks like the reinforced cockpit doors on SQ will go-ahead.
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 4:52 pm

Terrorists will want to create terror. They don't think about why they should do it, or whether it would solve any problems. Even with all the heightened security, I am afraid to say it is still very very easy for a professional to hijack a plane.
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:21 pm

What a dumb***!

What's crashing a jet into SIN going to achieve? Seriously these people need to be warped back to the stone age where they belong!
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:24 pm

Marco
As Cx_flyboy said, the idea is to create terror. That's wot terroists do, it would have scared even more people and those that are starting to fly again. It would have a massive impact on SQ and SIN. He could crash the plane where other planes with pax on them and caused thousands of deaths.
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 5:50 pm

Some people just don't have brains isn't it.

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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 6:30 pm

I don't believe their they don't have a brain. They have, for sure, but its an ill one I think.

Due to what ever reason they think it's right what they do. It's just ill if you look at it from our point of view.
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Fri Apr 12, 2002 8:06 pm

Most terrorists are mentally sound.Just they have a massive axe to grind!
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sat Apr 13, 2002 12:14 am

I think it was immature and it's good that plan foiled. What are they doing to do for their cause? Not much. People distance themselves from their Muslim religion as "normal" Muslims try and distance themselves away but to a non-muslim it just makes them lose respect for Muslims.... if you know what I mean.

Anyway, thank God that didn't happen. It would've been a completed disaster  Sad
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sat Apr 13, 2002 12:45 am

The thing is, HOW would they have executed the plan? It's very easy to say "I want to hijack a SQ plane and crash it into Changi". It's a completely different thing to actually DO it.

 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sat Apr 13, 2002 1:35 am

So does anyone know where this guy is in Thailand? And are Thai or US officials trying to capture him?
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sat Apr 13, 2002 4:18 am

Actually, if I was hijacking an aircraft it would almost definitely be a 747-400. Think of it:

1) You've got two choke points - the stairway and the cockpit door. That makes for defense in depth against counter-terror forces.

2) Global range if you need to escape to someplace like Libya. Also, it has enough fuel to stay airborne for a long time and confuse counter-terror forces who are following you.

3) Large size. This makes it easy to defend and gives a lot more hostages than a 767/757.

4) Big wake vortex. Good flying on a 744 could intimidate intercept pilots trying to force you down.
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sat Apr 13, 2002 10:07 am

Well as far as I'm concerned, the attack was foiled. As long as the civilized world can foil these attacks time and time again, we can eliminate terrorism. Now that airline security is taking a HUGE step forward, terrorists like Mas Selamat will be crapping their pants and fleeing in vain from our brothers in law enforcement. Remember, the allied forces against terrorism around the globe will ultimately prevail in the war against terrorism  Big thumbs up!
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sat Apr 13, 2002 11:41 am

FlyBoeing-nice to hear why a 744 is such a great plane for hijacking, when I'm flying on SQ 744s in and out of SIN like 6 times this summer,including flights to and from BKK  Big grin Oh well...I kick terrorists' asses when they get up to upper deck raffles class  Big thumbs up But seriously...how are they thinking that this would stop the war on Afghanistan? This shows that some terrorists really are just out to kill and cause terror...any info on if this guy has been/is being apprehended by anyone?
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sat Apr 13, 2002 6:19 pm

Just imagine what an incident like this would do to the aviation industry?
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:43 am

Like Cx Flyboy has pointed out... they do it just to cause terror around the world, location and what kind of planes don't matter...
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:50 am

Does anyone know anything about this? Really? I'm sure loads of people (including a contributor to Airliners.net, TropicalSkies, who flew a light plane into a bank building in Florida) have had the thought in the wake of what happened last year, but I doubt this guy was particularly serious. I'm not saying it's impossible, in fact a major act of violence against the west is almost inevitable with what's happening in the middle east, but this particular incident sounds like it was never going to amount to much. One disaffected nutter doesn't have the wherewithall or resources to do anything on this scale. More likely the Singapore gov't are trying to look sexy.
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:20 pm

Years ago a plot was unveiled in the Philippines where two UA 744s were going to be blown up simultaneously; one over Kowloon City on finals to Kai Tak, and I forget where the other was. Fortunately, it never happened as that would have killed thousands.
 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Sun Apr 14, 2002 6:01 pm

Cedarjet: I agree with you. Even I can say " I AM GOING TO HIJACK A BA PLANE FROM SYDNEY AND CRASH IT INTO CHANGI ON 22nd July 2002" And then start drawing a rough map of the plane, take some photos of Sydney airport, mark "Kill zones" on a map of Changi Airport which I can obtain easily from one of their information counters... Hmm. All this will be used as evidence against me won't it?

And crashing a plane into Singapore's airport, which 99.99% of Americans haven't heard of and the other 0.01% only think of it as a place where you get flogged for chewing gum.... they'd probably think we're an islamic state too and wonder why islamic states are starting to fight with one another. Bush will probably go 'Where? What? What Singapore??'. It will not have stopped the US airstrikes in Afghanistan.

A major act of terror requires an enormous amount of resources. Singapore is a small densely population city of 4 million people. As such, it'll be impossible to plan such an attack without anyone squealing on you or finding out. Even in the best of times, the massive internal security apparatus of this country is very effective.

 
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RE: SG Gov: Plan Was To Crash A BA Or SIA Jet Into SIN

Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:34 am

I think it would be remarkably easy to just decide one day to hijack a plane, walk on with your chosen weapon, and do the job, flying into a building or whatever.