Aircanada
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Air 2000 --> Canada 3000

Wed Sep 08, 1999 11:36 am

Are Air 2000 and Canada 3000 related somehow?? I was looking at a picture of Air 2000's
old livery (I tried to post it below, if not, the photo id is 44552).
Please tell me if they are, and if they aren't, how did they get such close designs??

Thanks,
Andrew (aka Aircanada)

 
Marrty
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RE: Air 2000 --> Canada 3000

Wed Sep 08, 1999 12:16 pm

O.k., I think I have this right.

Canada 3000 was also originally named Air 2000 when they started in Canada in 1988, because they were funded in part, (and owned in part) by Air 2000 in the U.K. The foreign ownership violated Canadian regulations, and invoked a name change and supposed restructuring. Hence, the original Air 2000 livery, (which is long overdue for a change) which still looks the same as the old A/2 livery, but now says Canada 3000. There are a few rumors of existing A/2 ownership.....but it appears to be somewhat silent. What the Crown doesn't know can't hurt her!

If who ever it is that owns this airline would get rid of the current President and CEO - Mr. Angus Kinnear, the employees (particularly the pilots) would jump for joy!
Mr. Kinnear, among other things, enforces a no jumpseat policy, which serves as nothing more than an embarassment to the flight deck crews of Canada 3000!
IMHO
 
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Canada3000 And The Banana

Wed Sep 08, 1999 12:36 pm

Marrty you are absolutely correct. Also, Mr Kinnear enforces other "bizarre" policies: my favourite is that Canada3000 flight attendants are not allowed to eat bananas in public!!!! Seriously!!! They can only eat a banana if it is cut up into pieces - ie not allowed to peel it and eat it, i think it's something to do with the phallic nature of the accused fruit (????) Weird, eh??

Cheers!
 
tygue
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The Full Answer

Wed Sep 08, 1999 2:01 pm

Hola,

Marrty got most of it right, but I have the full deal  

In 1988 Air 2000 formed it's Canadian partner (division?) under the name Air 3000. The Canadian Transportation Board would not allow the name to be used since it was so close to the name Air 2000. So the name Canada 3000 was born. Trouble was they had already painted their first 757 (I have a black and white copy if anyone is interested... a very rare photo) in the A3K name. It hadn't even been ok'd   Anyways, C3 took their new home in Toronto, Canada (27 Fasken Drive to be exact   ) and has now expanded to almost all over the world with charter service to Europe, Carribean, Canada, the US and now, South Pacific. They currently have a fleet of B757-200, A320-200's and were the first customer in line to fly the new A330-200.

Air 2000 broke off their ties with Canada 3000 when they were taken under new management. The paintscheme was changed (THANK GOD) and the B767 was added to the original 757 and A320. C3 DEPSERATELY needs a colour change  

The CEO, Mr. Kinnear, has taken a lot of "strange" actions with the airline. The Jumpseat policy being one. Not sure about that banana thing though  

If you want to know anything else, feel free to e-mail me : tygue@home.com.

Take care,
Tygue
 
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RE: The Full Answer

Wed Sep 08, 1999 2:54 pm

thanks for the info tygue.....just to let you know Air2000 is now owned by First Choice Holidays of the UK.

Cheers!

p.s. believe it or not the banana thing is true, i have many friends who are C3 flight attendants based here in YVR.  
 
Buff
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RE: Air 2000 --> Canada 3000

Wed Sep 08, 1999 9:26 pm

Without defending any particular ideosyncracies of our President, Canada 3000 Airlines would not be in such an enviable world position without him.

I would respectfully suggest that if one doesn't work for C-3, then perhaps its not one's place to offer isolated policy extremes based upon hearsay as facts and generalities!

The banana story however is true.

Best Regards,

Buff

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