AC330
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Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 12:54 pm

Hey,

I was looking at going to London over the summer and want to hear what people have to say about Virgin Atlantic. I have always wanted to fly on them...not sure why...they have just always seemed to be a cool airline to me. Anyway any comments on what its like to fly with them would be great!
Thanks!
 
deltaflyertoo
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 1:26 pm

I just flew them to London and IMO they are the best airline I have ever flown. The flight crew was amazing. By the 8th hour into the flight they had the same smiles and attitude going as when when I boarded and we still had 3 hours to go!!

The PTVs are great. Although on the return flight, mine broke. I was the only one on the plane and the flight was full so I could not move to another seat.  Sad However, Virgin gave me a complimentary bottle of Virgin Vodka and a Clinic Men's kit.

The food is great and with the pop music playing on boarding and on final approach and landing at a noticble volume level (just shy of loud) it makes for a totally interesting and fun flight. I could not imagine going back to London on any other airline!
 
Cyprus-Turkish
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 2:04 pm

Has anyone flown on both BA and Virgin and can give an unbiased comparison from the food to cabin crew, seats, PTV's, etc.
I flew on BA this Jan. and couldn't think an airline get any better. Should try Virgin over BA?
 
zrs70
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 3:35 pm

VS, while a fun airline, has about the worst seat pitch in the industry.
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BA777
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:06 pm

Funny,

AMM play music while taxying and on approach, and it's definetely a new thing for me.

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flyvs007
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:18 pm

I've flown both Virgin and BA and I have to say that Virgin was far far better. I haven't flown BA in a few years though, so maybe they have improved, but I left BA hoping I never have to fly them again, whereas I can wait for my next flight with Virgin.

Yes I love the music they play on board, although it does get a little annoying. But weeks later when you hear one of the songs it will bring it all back!
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 5:47 pm

I've flown BA from HKG-LHR-HKG and have flown VS LAX-LHR-LAX. As has been said above, VS's inflight service was far superior.
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 10:26 pm

I have flown:

VS LHR-SFO
VS LAX-LHR
VS LHR-JFK-LHR

and BA on routes to SFO/LHR

Virgin Atlantic are without a doubt better, they are a more modern, more futuristic airline, better cabin crew (by far) and the service is in a world of its own. Very well done VS, i'd fly with them anyday.

Markus
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 10:57 pm

Virgin Atlantic is unparalleled in any respect. Words fail to describe the feeling of flying Virgin. Not flying Virgin Atlantic when you have a chance to do it, is a crime against humanity  Smile. Really. You give BA great honour if you compare them with Virgin - BA is just unspeakably mediocre.

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RE: Virgin To London

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:17 pm

Virgin is a wonderful airline, with friendly cabin crew, good food, good inflight entertainment, a good on-time record, and a very pleasing fleet. However, the only complaint I have is the Virgin Economy seat. It is hard as a rock.

I have flown VS from JFK/EWR to LHR and back many times and never, NEVER had a bad flight. I have been on the B747-400, B747-100, A340-300.

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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:05 am

Virgin it is!! Thanks a lot for the replies. I flew BA last summer and I thought they were great! I can't wait to see what Virgin is like now that I see everyone likes them better! Thanks again,

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Ikarus
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:26 am

OK. Unbiased my reply is not - I like VS better. In economy. No idea about higher classes, though....

Comparing 2 return flights on VS (LHR-IAD and LHR-SFO) with 1 return flight on BA (LHR-YVR) taken last year, Virgin comes out on top.

Why?
- much friendlier cabin crew
- more frequent drink services (on BA, on the YVR-LHR leg, there were only about 2 during the entire flight)
- more movies to choose from, and more video games
- not all BA 744s have PTVs - the one I was on during the return flight did not.
- nicer plane interior
- often cheaper fares

About the seat pitch: I could not notice much of a difference between the two at all. I think they're the same

Regards

Ikarus
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:32 am

All flights to Canada now have PTVs in all four classes.

Anyways since VS doesn't fly to Canada I would go for British Airways. I've flown BA to YVR and YUL (a million times) and they're great!
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:13 am

I think BA have caught up a lot they have very comparable service now. However, I think that BA has always had better buisness/first classes, for example the completely flat beds in buisness etc.
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:14 am

Virgin wins hands down... I had the chance to fly VS026 (JFK-LHR) in 2000 and return on BA177 (LHR-JFK), both in economy, and Virgin wins by a looooong shot. Since that first VS flight I have flown 4 more legs on them and they have impressed me every time and made me feel good for flying them. They are innovators and they treat ALL passengers as valued customers whereas it seems that BA only truly values their super status frequent fliers and First/Club pax. Go with Virgin, you will not be dissappointed in the slightest, and the same could be said for BA, they too are a good airline, but Virgin just excels and beats BA hands down.

Go Sir Richard!!

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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:22 am

Praise indeed!

Thank you so much for all your positive comments. It is flattering to be held in such high regard.

I was hooked the first time I flew Virgin Atlantic as a passenger and that is why I inevitably ended up working for the company.
 
Cyprus-Turkish
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:29 am

It might be a British thing.
Virgin is a true flag carrier, and so is BA.
They are probably the best things that ever happened to the UK after Liz Hurley Smile
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 10:39 am

Didn't Branson want to name Economy riff - raff class ? I thought that quite amusing, even if others did not.

I've flown them LHR - LAX and EWR - LHR. The Lax trip on the airbus 340 - 300, and the EWR leg on the 747 - 400 ( S'posed to be an airbus; but due to high demand our plane was replaced by the mighty 7474  Smile )

They're all very friendly, the FA'S are polite and helpful, and I liked playing Super Mario at 35,000 feet. They're innovative, and do seem to cater to the younger, trendier flyers with their boarding music and psychedelic decor.

Their safety display is amusing as well - it's a cartoon thing that plays on the PTV instead of the FA's doing their thing in the aisles.

No complaints from me, and I'll probably be flying them to Vegas in August.
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 11:08 am

A couple of years I was able to fly VS from IAD-LHR-IAD. I found it to be the worst flight I have been on. The seats on the A340 suck. No padding on the seats. Slow a/c. And being staff for an airline, Most companies upgrade staff, VS does not. I was more comfortable flying UA 14 hours from SFO-SYD in Y class. Outside of that the food was not as advertised. Could not sleep and was stuck in a middle seat for 7 1/2 hours. Could not use the loo.
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:13 pm

I flew them on several 747-200s both in the old J class and Coach. Business Class is cool if you can afford it or have someone else pay for it.
Coach has good food, service, PTVs, friendly attractive FAs (a rarity on US based airlines), cool knick knacks - and the WORST pitch and recline in modern aviation history that I have encountered. If you can numb yourself on an overnight 7 hour flight to the UK, you'll be ok. I for one, will avoid flying coach in Virgin.
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RE: Virgin To London

Mon Apr 15, 2002 7:35 pm

I've travelled LHR-HKG-LHR in A343 riff raff class at the back on the window side at an angle near the galley.

The seat pitch was awful and hence the journey un pleasant. I think the pitch was less than 31".

VS should improve the pitch to 32" or better throughout this aircraft and consider it for A346.



 
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RE: Virgin To London

Tue Apr 16, 2002 12:19 am

Okay, I'm 6'2 so would economy really be that bad?? I've flown Canada 3000, Royal Airlines and Air Transat and they were cramped! Virgin isn't that bad is it??
 
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RE: Virgin To London

Tue Apr 16, 2002 7:15 am

I don't know why people keep harping on about the seat pitch on Virgin Atlantic.

I am over six foot and have travelled in Economy on many many occasions. I have not found it to be cramped.

On the other hand I have flown on another well known British carrier to Florida and it was the worst ten hours I have ever spent. Not only was there no legroom, the seat was very narrow as well.

If it really was so bad I would be inundated with complaints from passengers on every flight, which I can assure you I'm not.

 
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RE: Virgin To London

Tue Apr 16, 2002 9:09 am

Hehehe hey Marc,
Being a huge VS fan I could never put them down, but being unbiased yes there could be a bit more room. No, it doesn't make someone cramped, but there isn't much room to manouver to pick up things from under the seat ahead. Not a big deal in my books because the rest of the VS service totally makes up for it... I'll take VS and their wonderful service/small seat pitch over anyone else with their terrible service/large pitch anyday! Hey Marc Email me when you get a chance, I'd like to know your recent travels!

Your buddy

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