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Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:12 pm

Hi guys,

I returned this morning to Brussels on the 7h20 Swiss/SN Brussels Zurich-Brussels flight. The route was operated not with the Avro Jet but with an Airbus 321 !!!! This biggest Airbus single aisle was almost full in C and Y. Many children, families and transfert pax boarded in Zurich for the 55 minute trip.

From this summer season on Swiss wil regulary appear in Brussels with Airbus again. And their handling partner is no longer Sabena but Aviapartner



 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:17 pm

Off course, groundhandling of Sabena doesn't exist anymore  Smile

I don't know who has bought it.
 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:20 pm

Kenny,

Groundhandling SN still operates !!!!! The receiver let them continue to work. FCC (Spain) wants to buy them.
 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:34 pm

Hey Pressclub,

Since the summer season, Swiss is operating flights to Brussels with A32S, S20, AR1 and AR8. A whole mix of types on the BRU-ZRH route.

A question, what was the loadfactor on that A321 flight of this morning?

Regards,
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:35 pm

Oops, sorry. I read over it I think.
Almost sold-out.

Regards,
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:37 pm

Hey Sabena 690, Pressclub wrote:"Airbus single aisle was almost full in C and Y".
That should answer your question
Rgds
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 7:38 pm

2 minutes 30 sec late sorry.......
Sabena ... Never to be forgotten (12 years already , what a shame !! )
 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:07 pm

Yup, SN ground handling still exists. As a matter of fact, they gave me aphone call a couple of days ago, asking me if I'd like to work for them during the summer months.

So, to all you pilots out here, it's possible that you might see me during august working on the ramp.

By the way, does anybody know what 'GlobeGround' is? I saw it when I went to BRu last thursday to test the new Pier A (will be there again next tuesday). Is it the new name for SN Ground Handling?

Sorry Pressclub that I ask these questions in your thread, just couldn't resist the temptation  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:22 pm

@ Pressclub

I thought FCC took over it and the name SN disappeard, damn, need to check the airport more.
 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Sun Apr 14, 2002 11:28 pm

@ apuneger
globeground is a german handling company. I do not know the connection with lh but i know they also handle the thomas cook flts in terms of operations and checkin. Loading/unloading/catering and cleaning are done by aviapartner
 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Mon Apr 15, 2002 12:04 am

Let me just make it clear:

x Globeground WAS a German company owned by Lufthansa. It's now a french owned handling group. Together with Swissport it's the biggest handling company in the world. In Brussels they are alreay present for 5 years now. They do the landside handling of almost all star alliance partners. Also Thomas Cook (partially Lufthansa owned as you all know) work with GlobeGround.

x Globeground is fighting to get a license for airside handling in Brussels. This is now a duopoly market (Sabena Ground, Aviapartner). Globeground participated in the receiver's bidding for Sabena Handling but their offer was not withold. They now went to court and complain against the take-over of Sabena Ground Handling by FCC.... So, SN 690 the take-over of Sabena Ground Handling by FCC is not a done deal by now. There is also a union problem (the unions don't accept the social plan FCC wants to implement)...

Conclusion: even in this sector of the tough industry lots of tensions and an uncertain future !!!




 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:39 am

Thanks for clearng this up, 744rules and Pressclub.

I just was wondering, because it was the first time I ever saw their logo at BRU.

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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Mon Apr 15, 2002 1:50 am

That's strange, Ivan. Their 'Globe' is already 5 years in Brussels and it is one of the worldleaders in this business. Ofcourse they are not so sexy until now as they don't work on the airside...
 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Mon Apr 15, 2002 2:18 am

Well, maybe it was the first time I ever noticed their logo. Still, I hadn't seen this one ever before...

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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Mon Apr 15, 2002 3:17 am


Pressclub,

Wasn't Globe called Lufthansa Ground Brussels a couple of years, ago, I seem to remember that they had a small ticket counter at the back of the departure level of the airport building,

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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Mon Apr 15, 2002 3:23 am

You are right AirDD. They belonged to Lufthansa. They also had/have a lost & found counter in the arrival lugage hall
 
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RE: Swiss Back With Airbus In Brussels

Mon Apr 15, 2002 6:53 am

But do you know what is funny about the use of A319/320/321 from ZRH to BRU?

We are not allowed to load any ULD's (baggage and cargo containers) with the old "swissair"-logo on it. For a reason I do not know, "swisscargo" is OK. They must have the new "swiss" thing on it. This is due to the fact that the new Swiss airline is still afraid of having stuff blocked in BRU.......

It's the small things whitch make you think like it was before.

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