Transtar
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Embraer EMB-145

Fri Sep 10, 1999 1:55 am

I know people have asked about The Canadair Regional Jet, but what about the Embraer EMB-145/135?

What have people's experiences been on them? I've flown a EMB-120 many a time and I was wondering if the comfort is identical.
 
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RE: Embraer EMB-145

Fri Sep 10, 1999 6:15 am

I have not been on the EMB-120, so I can't speak to similarity, but I can say that my experiences with the ERJ-145 have been excellent. I have only flown the -145 on one route, ORD-IND-ORD, but I have done it many times as I have to fly this flight to get to San Diego from school. The ERJ-145 is a comfortable, quiet aircraft, and American Eagle has blue leather seats inside. I don't know how other operators have it outfitted. The lav is really big, especially for a plane that size... it spans the entire width of the aircraft behind the last row of seats. It's nice to be able to board through the jetbridge, though I realize that CRJs and ATRs also allow that, as do other planes, probably. In any event, I have been very pleased with the 145, and I look forward to taking my first flight on the 135 when Eagle puts them in service later this year.
 
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RE: Embraer EMB-145

Fri Sep 10, 1999 6:29 am

From an engineering point of view, I really admire such integration of its airframe, and the dynamic modifications it did as I said earlier in respect to the the wing's position as from the 'center of gravity' concept. I have also sat on the jumpseat for some of its flight on the demo tour, so I was also impressed with other technical aspects such as avionics. BTW, 145 uses Honeywell Primus 1000, with an RMU as a back-up for the EICAS.
From a passenger point of view, I guess it is extremely comfortable, with its 2x1 arrangement which let's me sit by the window alone. Window height is also good, where you don't bend down as much and not too narrow. However, I guess the real service will depend on the airline you're travelling.

 
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RE: Embraer EMB-145/Purdue Cadet

Fri Sep 10, 1999 8:19 am

Like Purdue Cadet, I have only flown the ERj145 on my way to/from school. The AE service is great, and the aircraft is fun to ride. It really has a lot of pep. I have also flown Comair's CRJs on CVG-IND/STL routes. I must say that I found the service, comfort level, and overall satisfaction to be much the same on both aircraft. Honestly, from the inside its tough to tall the two apart.(Although AE is 1*2 and Comair is 2*1). The seats on both a/c are nice, but the new AE leather seats are VERY comfortable and seem to be quite large. Id like to see some similar ones retrofitted into some F100/MD80s!

Purdue Cadet: Will AE use 135s into IND? I hope so, my EM4/100/100/EM4 route gets a little boring!
 
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EMB-120

Fri Sep 10, 1999 10:34 am

I am 1,85m and weigh 83kg. I can barely breath when I board the EMB-120. I really miss the Fokker F-27 flying regional routes.
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FlyAA757

Sat Sep 11, 1999 12:14 am

I'm going to have to say that, although 135 routes have not been announced, I highly doubt that Eagle will put the ERJ-135 into IND. If you look at Eagle's ORD operation, they use only the larger aircraft (145, ATR), and not the Saab (34 seater). I think that this is because of slot controls at O'Hare. Because they cannot schedule unlimited frequencies, they use larger aircraft and only serve markets that can support them. Because of this, I don't expect to see any ERJ-135s at ORD until slot restraints are removed.

As for ORD-IND specifically, I really think that there is little chance of Eagle bringing in a smaller plane. Before the ERJ-145, Eagle flew the route using ATRs, mostly 64 seat ATR-72s. When they received the Embraer, Eagle realized the value of IND as a business market and put RJs into operation here, but they retained a flight or two operate by the ATR to get those extra 14 seats. Now the schedule is dominated by the RJ, but from time to time there are still ATR fights. I really think that AMR is trying to balance the needed capacity with the desire of business travelers to fly on jets, and so I think that the ERJ-145 is the smallest plane we're likely to see in the market. I actually lean towards the belief that, if slot restraints are totally lifted at ORD, AA will probably take over the IND flights and operate mainline service just as UA does. I think that American just doesn't have the mainline slots at ORD at this time to operate the service themselves, so they releagte it to American Eagle.

Just out of curiosity, if you don't mind my asking, where do you go to school that brings you to IND?
 
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RE: Embraer EMB-145

Sat Sep 11, 1999 2:50 am

Apparently I was wrong about ERJ-135 deployment... American Eagle announced that it will use them ORD-AZO (Kalamazoo) starting 11/15.
 
flyaa757
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Purdue Cadet

Mon Sep 13, 1999 6:49 am

I go to IU Bloomington. I checked out the AA schedule. There is only 1 ATR flight into IND each week. It only operates Saturday, and is an ATR42. I think the 135 would do well flying off times. Ive been on 145s that werent full. Interestingly, I just flew in on a 137 seat Southwest 733 MDW-IND, which was probabally 85% full!
 
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RE: Embraer EMB-145

Mon Sep 13, 1999 11:29 am

Likewise, United's schedule ORD-IND uses larger, mainline aircraft. United operates 8 flights a day, ranging from 737 to 757 aircraft, for a very rough total of about 1000-1200 seats a day. American Eagle operates 9 flights a day, totaling only 450 seats.
 
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RE: Embraer EMB-145

Mon Sep 13, 1999 2:22 pm

I know that UA does, or at least did fly 1 767-300ER into IND each day. I think this was just because the plane was sitting around doing nothing anyway. I know that this service operated in the past and I saw a 763 here in July.