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Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 7:13 am

Air Jamaica will resume non-stop service between Ft. Lauderdale and Montego Bay this September (JM 030/031). The flight will operate daily with an A320 and compliment Air Jamaica's two daily FLL-Kingston-Montego Bay flights. Even though Montego Bay is Air Jamaica's main hub, both of FLL's services fly to Kingston since the flight is mainly flown by the Ft. Lauderdale's large Jamaican community (which is larger than Miami and New York, I believe), most of which are destined to Kingston. This will bring Air Jamaica's Miami services to seven daily flights - four to Montegy Bay and three to Kingston.
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 9:04 am

Also, remember that JM ties in with DL at FLL so that the new MBJ service will enhance connections to the Caribbean destinations of JM. Given the large market for services to Jamaica from the Miami area it makes sense for JM to enlarge services at the somewhat less cluttered FLL rather than pin all of its hopes on MIA. A good move, in my estimation.

JM is also opening several other services, namely to Houston, Antigua and Curacao, plus increased services to London from Kingston, Montego Bay and now Havana plus a new Manchester service.

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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 9:10 am

Long time no see Trintocan........How's Trinidad? Been to the test match?

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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 9:17 am

I wonder why BWIA has a huge billboard infront of FLL on I95 (or some road) and they don't even fly to FLL.
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 9:43 am

JM-airbus320, I'm in the UK now, last was home back in February. I am following the Test match on-line and in the newspapers.

Chepos, BWIA do fly to MIA and are a long-established force there. With Fort Lauderdale near to Miami and the West Indian community spread between both cities it makes sense to have the ad there even if it does not actually fly to FLL. Remember that FLL and MIA are only 18 miles apart.

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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 9:51 am

Yes Tritocan I know BWIA does fly to MIA but I think they should have put the billboard someone in the metro Miami area. How is their market share on MIA-BGI route, considering they have a 738 flight and AA has two 757 flights.
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:08 am

Trintocan, yes, JM and DL are partners, but DL only codeshares on the early morning FLL-KIN departure. FLL-MBJ and the afternoon FLL-KIN are not DL codeshares.

Chepos, BWIA's two daily MIA flights, both 738s (one to POS, one to BGI), both compete with two daily 752s on AA. AA carriers more traffic, of course, but BWIA carriers a higher % O&D traffic and is the perferred carrier for Barbados nationals visting home. They also are the dominant carrier on the MIA-GEO market, which currently lacks non-stop service (though Universal Airlines is coming late this fall).
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:13 am

I thought the MIA-POS route has two flights on Mon, Tueday and Sats.
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:15 am

Also to note, I do think BWIA would do great at FLL if they ever chose to expand. Air Canada, American Airlines, Bahamaasair and Air Jamaica have found FLL as an excellent alternative gateway to busy MIA (and soon Aero Continente will serve both gateways). While MIA has a strong amount of O&D and connecting, the FLL operations for each are nearly 100% O&D traffic. AA even splits frequencies between MIA and FLL so they offer almost hourly departures between MIA/FLL and LGA/SJU. No FLL flights leaves at the same time bank as an MIA flight (ORD and DFW have a similar arrangement, but some flights leave at the same time bank, with 16 dailies on each). Hopefully we will see FLL grow in popularity as an alternative interanational gateway, which is starting with this summer's new AA CCS service and this fall's new N6 LIM service.
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:18 am

Chepos, the extra frequencies are currently not running, it appears.
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:21 am

MAH4546 do you know if any European airline is planning to add flights to FLL.
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:40 am

Chepos, there were some rumours of DL/AF to CDG, but nothing has surfaced. FLL is actively pursuing European service beyond Condor and Finnair Holidays. Best bet would be Air France or Delta to CDG, since there is strong O&D and a large part of the French population is now living in the FLL area. Another possibility is Icelandair to KEF. They secured the rights to FLL-KEF in 1999. Not sure if they ever flew it, but it's a possibility, especially with fleet renewal coming up (I believe they are expanding thier 757 fleet).

BA/VS/LH, etc. would be nice, but if anything they would add more flights to MIA instead of bothering with FLL. Word is (and I got this from a Miami AA employee) that AA has some pretty nice plans for FLL for the upcoming year and CCS is just the beginning. We'll see how valid those statements are next April, but I don't see how AA could not do very well flying FLL-LHR (FLL is an LHR city). Finding the slots is the hard part. None the less, on the "likely" side, I think AF/DL to CDG and Icelandair to KEF are good bets. Everything else is up in the air, but London service is bound to happen within five years.

Whatever trans-Atlantics are opened out of FLL, heavy O&D is a must for daily service (KEF is the exception, since Icelandair makes money offering cheap fares to Europe via KEF), especially since it has to compliment MIA. LON, MAD, CDG, and AMS (the four biggest Miami-Europe O&D markets, in that order) all have room for extra flights. FRA (#5 market) is good, but the traffic is too heavily concentrated heading East. MXP (#6) is a growing market from MIA because of the fashion industry ties (and FLL had Lauda Italia in the past), but it will be a while before FLL service is warranted. BCN (#7) is highly needed, but not even MIA has BCN yet. The rest will never happen (if memory serves me right, ZRH #8, MUC #9, TLV #10, BRU #11, FCO #12, DUS #13, MAN #14, CPH #15; VIE, HEL, WAW, IST, and BHX round it off).
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RE: Air Jamaica To Resume FLL-MBJ

Wed Apr 24, 2002 10:00 am

AFAIK BWIA does have 2 daily flights from POS to MIA and return - one flight stops each way in Barbados. Their schedule seems to have changed a lot of late - they also used to have frequencies to MIA via Antigua but I do not know the latest.

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